steveviscious89 Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 Whoa....what a stinker.....not even the inevitable low production will save this one. Quote
bricki123 Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 i agree this is no UCS. its a nice starting point for mocs... a wall here, some ground there... and you have a complete hoth base. BUT lego could do this with 3-4 smaller sets needs no UCS and 300$ for this. many minifigs but for investor not interesting overall. Quote
stephen_rockefeller Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, bricki123 said: i agree this is no UCS. its a nice starting point for mocs... a wall here, some ground there... and you have a complete hoth base. BUT lego could do this with 3-4 smaller sets needs no UCS and 300$ for this. many minifigs but for investor not interesting. It is a UCS......it really isn't a debate. 1 Quote
Val-E Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 11 pages of debate and the set hasn´t been shown yet - I guess that proves SW has still got it. It won´t need to score a home run to be a winner as SW Lego fans have been starved of large sets for almost a year now. 1 Quote
ad2001 Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Val-E said: 11 pages of debate and the set hasn´t been shown yet - I guess that proves SW has still got it. It won´t need to score a home run to be a winner as SW Lego fans have been starved of large sets for almost a year now. Kinda strangle that you actually came to that conclusion ... From what I've read, most I see are negative comments towards this set .... Not seeing much debate at all ... And definitely not seeing love from most SW Lego fans .... By the way, I saw this on Reddit by someone saying that this is going to be the upcoming Death Star set ... Selling for $300 ~~~ LOL Edited February 13, 2016 by ad2001 4 Quote
Sprocket77 Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 11 hours ago, Darth_Raichu said: Perhaps they meant to call the set "Insult on Hoth" ? "Minor fracas on Hoth" maybe? Quote
chipbee Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 7 hours ago, mesje said: This is the most horrible UCS set ever... I thought this honour belongs to the B wing? Quote
stephen_rockefeller Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, chipbee said: I thought this honour belongs to the B wing? Belonged.......past tense. 2 Quote
biniou Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 I'm glad because in comparison all the retired sets standing on my shelves will seem to be deals, even at x2 RRP. 1 Quote
BP Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 All the discussion sounds like seacow x 100, woohoow! 1 Quote
Frank Brickowski Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 35 minutes ago, BP said: All the discussion sounds like seacow x 100, woohoow! Yes, especially all newbie investors should store up on "Assault on Hoth" Everybody should at least have 20 or better 50. THIS is the next big sleeper - because everybody hates it and no one of the "old guys" will be buying or even hoarding it. This is your big chance as newcomers to earn big time! 3-5x RRP within a year after EOL seems within reach... (whispering to self: "that should do"...) 1 Quote
Anakin_Skywalker Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 It is a UCS......it really isn't a debate. Agree with Stephen...it IS indeed a UCS, the debate here is WHY this set belongs to the same luxury category of 10179 and co. Maybe UCS stamp value has been diluted over time... Quote
bricki123 Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) 54 minutes ago, BP said: All the discussion sounds like seacow x 100, woohoow! yeah but the difference is: Sea Cow is unique at least. One Big thing. Nothing in this new "UCS"-Set is unique or big. Maybe a minifig but IMHO this is not enough. With this Hoth Echo Base they bundled some small sets together, put the UCS-sticker on it and expect 300$. Whats the next? Cantina + Rancor Pit "UCS"? Edited February 13, 2016 by bricki123 . Quote
Frank Brickowski Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bricki123 said: yeah but the difference is: Sea Cow is unique at least. One Big thing. Nothing in this new "UCS"-Set is unique or big. Maybe a minifig but IMHO this is not enough. If I was TLG I would introduce even more "Sub-sets" to put it in Trading Card terms. Then people will have more entry points to complete parts of their collections. They should only give it other names than "Ultimate whatsoever", then in the end no one will ask, why a spcecific set is in that sub-series. For NBA Trading Card subsets you also sometimes got an Eric Montross next to Grant Hill and no one was wondering. "It's a given subset, man. There is no "why"!..." Edited February 13, 2016 by rfish Quote
stephen_rockefeller Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 This meme sums up this thread perfectly 4 Quote
citymorgue Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 I've said a couple of times that a lot of sets get a lot of hate before they are even released, then people fall in love with them afterwards, but I'm really struggling to find much redeeming value here. Like I said, I'll probably buy it, only because I would love to have a wampa, and taun-taun, but let's be honest, it's not the best showing from Lego that's for sure. Well, that just means I can save my money for the other good sets coming out this year. Quote
Popular Post Cheese Posted February 13, 2016 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2016 Saw this on another forum. Sums it up! 21 Quote
BP Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, LahH001 said: Saw this on another forum. Sums it up! Makes me wonder if the boxart is actually legit or just some guy having fun with photoshop? Quote
Popular Post Ed Mack Posted February 13, 2016 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2016 I have been busy at work, so I haven't really had the time to discuss this set. I have thought about it more and this set in particular really disturbs me. The one thing that has driven the LEGO secondary market for years are sets geared towards the adult collector. The nonsense I read above from a LEGO rep talking about "LEGO sets need to be played with" is just dumb. They are all played with...aren't they? The large display models don't come assembled, do they? If you want to destroy the LEGO company, just go back to the dull set designs of the 80s and 90s that were based on "play." The company almost went bankrupt releasing the same retreads over and over again. This set is an example of laziness. It has been redone in smaller sets dozens of times. Enough. It is nowhere close to the old UCS standards, the same standards that helped bring LEGO out of its financial and creative hole. If the new standard of a UCS set is brick count, we are all in trouble. LEGO is messing with the flagship theme of LEGO with uninspiring sets like this. Even the rumored reissue of the Snowspeeder hurts the theme. You are telling me they have run out of ideas and have to remake another UCS set? Maybe this is a one time deal. Maybe the up and coming UCS sets will meet the previous standards. The recent Slave I and TIE Fighter were excellent sets. But if we start getting more of these large retreads based around "play" then lookout. The Ultimate Collector Series will no longer be "ultimate" as a collectible or even as a LEGO set. 14 Quote
Vinetu Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 19 minutes ago, LahH001 said: Saw this on another forum. Sums it up! This thing needs to be twitted, shared and liked on every social network there is. Once people from all over the world shove it down their throat with bad publicity, they may come to their senses and start giving us sets that deserve to be called UCS. What a ripoff, shame on you TLG! 2 Quote
marcandre Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 They just need to take the UCS tag off of it. It's a great playset for kids but not for adults at all. If Ewok Village is not deserving of the tag neither is this. 6 Quote
Ed Mack Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, marcandre said: They just need to take the UCS tag off of it. It's a great playset for kids but not for adults at all. If Ewok Village is not deserving of the tag neither is this. Yes...remove the tag and it's acceptable. The Ewok Village is deserving of a UCS tag, this set is not. 5 Quote
Deanfjr Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: Yes...remove the tag and it's acceptable. The Ewok Village is deserving of a UCS tag, this set is not. I agree EV now looks amazing compared to this monstrosity Edited February 13, 2016 by Deanfjr Quote
Mos_Eisley Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 This set wouldn't get nearly the hate if it cost $200 and didn't have the UCS label. If the person writing the set description has spent any time building at all, they had to be laughing the whole time they wrote it. 3 Quote
Crustybeaver Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 Due for release on April 30th 75098 Assault on Hoth Ages 12+. 2,144 pieces. US $249.99 - CA $299.99 - DE 249.99€ - UK £219.99 - DK 2199.00 DKK Play out action-packed Hoth battles like never before! This fantastic LEGO recreation of the Rebel force's Echo Base from Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back has all the details you need to create your own epic ice-planet battles. Set out on scouting missions with the Snowspeeder armed with twin spring-loaded shooters, and when you spot the enemy speeder bike, get back to base and help Luke, Han and the other Rebel heroes lock down the blast doors, ready the laser cannons, man the gun turrets with dual spring-loaded shooters and power up the devastating ion cannon, also with 2 spring-loaded shooters! This amazing model has so many more features, including a service area with crane, control room area, power generator with explode function, rotating communication dish, scout post with dual stud shooters and a Tauntaun with its own stable. There's even a Wampa cave (with Wampa) for Luke to escape from! This amazingly detailed set's modular design also means that you can create your very own Rebel base configuration. Prepare for ultimate LEGO Star Wars action! Includes 14 minifigures with assorted weapons: Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Toryn Farr, Rebel Officer, Wes Janson, Wedge Antilles, K-3PO, 5 Rebel troopers and 2 Snowtroopers, plus an R3-A2, Tauntaun and a Wampa. Features Rebel base with modular wall and trench sections, a Snowspeeder and a speeder bike. Wall section features slidable blast doors, service area with crane, control room area, power generator with explode function, ion cannon with dual spring-loaded shooters, laser turret with spring-loaded shooters and space for a minifigure, scout post with dual stud shooters and space for a minifigure, Tauntaun stable and a Wampa cave. Trench section features heavy blasters, laser turret with double spring-loaded shooters and space for a minifigure, and a laser cannon with rapid stud shooter. Snowspeeder features an opening cockpit, extending speed flaps and 2 spring-loaded shooters. Weapons include Luke's Lightsaber, 7 blaster pistols, 2 blaster rifles and 2 blasters. Accessories include 7 Hoth Rebel helmets, 2 Snowtrooper helmets, and Wes and Wedge's flight helmets. Man the weapons and prepare to fire! Jump in the Snowspeeder and track the enemy. Keep a lookout for Imperial forces from the scout post. Close the blast doors and prepare for battle! Tend to the Tauntaun. Hoist up the Snowspeeder ready for servicing. Bring down orbiting starships with the devastating ion cannon! Can Luke escape the ferocious Wampa? Snowspeeder measures over 1" (5cm) high, 7" (18cm) long and 6" (17cm) wide. Speeder bike measures over 1" (3cm) high, 5" (13cm) long and 1" (4cm) wide. Power generator measures over 3" (8cm) high, 6" (16cm) wide and 5" (13cm) deep. Wall section including ion cannon measures over 5" (15cm) high, 20" (51cm) wide and 11" (30cm) deep. Trench section measures over 3" (10cm) high, 13" (35cm) wide and 4" (11cm) deep. Quote
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