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I think (hope) it's because we all have this common love for this plastic toy - whether because it's fun to build, makes us money, both, or whatever - that we can step back and say, "okay, we've got to be cool when this is over." Because honestly, I don't want to be "not cool" with anyone here. This place is really the only message board that I participate on (and I've been online since the 80s). And care much more to discuss LEGO with you folks, than politics.

Granted the bar is really low, but this discussion has been among the most mature/least absurd that I've seen regarding anything political online in the last few months. All this by a bunch of grown dude(tte)s who buy plastic toys to sell on the Internet.

maybe Black Cards holders will get something extra too

I apologize then about the Trump remark. You're right, I didn't notice that you mentioned his name in there. I thought I remembered you as having a particular aversion to saying his name, so my bad. And yes - Trump is unique in the way he speaks, and that's his appeal to a lot of people. I think you and I are probably a lot closer politically than you might think. I have personally only ever been registered as anything other than "unaffiliated" once - the 2000 primary. I registered Republican for that primary, just to vote for McCain over GWB. I know it's a bit of a slippery slope talking about slippery slopes, lol. But in all seriousness, it's a concern. Only because we've seen that happen in history. And if you don't at least consider some of the slippery slope, it may be too late before we realize it. I hope this is it. I hope that turning Trump off is as far as this goes. But Cancel Culture is a thing, and it's dividing us, and the more we dig in our heals to cancel people, the more they're going to dig in their heals to say they're not wrong. We're lacking an ability to dialogue, and things have become far to black and white for my tastes. What happened to the nuisance?

Bet. See you May 4th

I am here to complain that my COVID thread got overrun by politics (of which, yes I was a small part), which is obviously allowed here. And when we tried to talk about this still ongoing pandemic, it just turned into politics. Outcome = Locked thread To be quite honest, this **** still isn't going away. Id like everyone to know that my wife had it, and my kids probably did., but I didnt. It sucks and that is my complaint. But I also couldn't express to anyone online how i feel, ya know, to you guys. Of course I have my family, but still, you have to get stuff off your chest occasionally. Working from home, I don't see my work family, so they kind of feel like a new online family. I know its sappy but you all are a pretty good online family, at least people less anonymous than reddit or other "social media" Actually, not being hugely active on social media, and honestly being a 10-year married man with 2 daughters, I don't have many friends but I do thrive on communication. I appreciate this community in that we all typically post very mature conversations and weight with which we post our ideas and commentary, even thought it is just an LEGO investing forum. Its nice finding out little bits about everyone here and I appreciate it. So, yeah, thats my complaint.

I updated it for you.

Don't get cocky kid! [it's quote Han Solo day]

This is my concern as well - cancel culture and the inability to have real conversations and debate. Several Democrats have been planning to impeach Donald Trump since before he took office in 2016. Sadly, he keeps teeing the ball up for them to do so. But then it moved from Trump himself by calling to "cancel" anyone who has worked for the Trump admin. Now people are "cancelling" any contracts with the Trump org - a company that Donald Trump was forced to divest himself of before taking office in 2016. How long before people begin "cancelling" anyone who works(ed) for the Trump brand all together? Where does it end? Every movement to "cancel" people starts with an arguably good motive but ALWAYS ends tragically. The NAZI political party began as a way to create a better Germany but ended by cancelling everyone except the upper echelon of the NAZI party members. (By the way, everyone should have seen that coming. Hitler solidified his position as leader of the NAZI party by having hundreds of NAZI party members assassinated who did not solely support him. It is called the "Night of Long Knives" but really took place over ONE weekend the end of June, 1934). Joseph Stalin (Former Soviet Union leader during WWII) is quoted as complimenting Hitler in his ability to take control. Soviet Russia admired the NAZIs. That says something about the former Soviet Union. The Spanish Inquisition was started by the Catholic Church in Spain to root out heretics but ended tragically by killing thousands of Christians who differed with the leadership of the church in Spain. Fun history fact; Columbus delayed his departure from Spain by one day. His actual departure date aligns with the same day Jewish people were expelled from Spain. Coincidence? I doubt it. The Crusades set out to "free the Holy Land" but ended tragically by looting, pillaging, raping, and destroying towns and cities regardless of their "faith". There was also rampant child trafficking. Granted these are extreme cases, but they are the ones history has remembered. Now Alexandria Casio-Cortez via Instagram has admitted that people in our current government are discussing more media control. Control by who; her?, the "squad"?, democrats? I highly doubt any republicans are in that conversation, let alone true independents or people from any other political background. I found this article which has her full (1+ hour) video imbedded so you can see it for yourself. ttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/dave-rubin-slams-aoc-commission-media. The Golden Rule says, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." The vengeful of our world have their own version, "As you have done to me, I will now do to you," and that really scares me. It takes a lot of grace (undeserved forgiveness) to NOT seek retribution. You can claim I'm being an alarmist, but "those who are ignorant of history are destined to repeat it" (unknown author). Thank you for letting me get this off my chest. Now, back to your regularly scheduled complaint thread.

Yes, I believe that they determined it as being obvious that his stating that he wasn't going to be attending the inaugural ceremony, was nothing more than him communicating to his army that violence was welcome at the event (since he won't be there). After a summer of death and destruction, during what was deemed to be "mostly peaceful protests", you would think it would get harder for people to be so hypocritical regarding the reality of events, but no.

What scares me is how people are being "cancelled." Their lives...Their jobs...Their businesses...Their identities...Their beliefs...Their emotional well being. If it's not the virus wreaking havoc, then it's the government closing businesses and schools and destroying lives and someone's lifetime work. Social media and TV media is all about control and their narratives. I guess the past year has made me realize we have very little control of our lives and that's hard for me and many others to deal with.

Does no one understand the First Amendment? ; an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights, prohibiting Congress from interfering with freedom of religion, speech, assembly, or petition. Although the First Amendment applies only to state actors, there is a common misconception that it prohibits anyone from limiting free speech, including private, non-governmental entities. ; Because they are private companies, Twitter, Facebook and other social media can limit speech on their platforms. No shirt? No shoes? No service!

Trump isn't silenced. He has a platform available to him 24/7, the White House press room.

If Tech CEOs can censor the President of the USA, go figure who holds the power in this world. And on top of that it happens in the one nation that supposedly values free speech more than anything else. And the hatred of the media is unbelievable... For what? Not being a globalist Soros slave? Trump was still the best president since Kennedy, hate on me for that statement, I don't care what anyone says, he is a man outside of the criminal establishment, that's a positive. I respect him for what he has achieved internationally, he respected other states' national sovereignty instead of purposely destroying their economy or straight up invading them. You can argue about his temperament & his personality, but that should not be the main topic of discussion, although it seems that most anti-Trump people hate him mainly for these reasons. I'm not even American, but I hate to see him go. Biden will apply the same cruel politics internationally as Obama & Bush did before him...

I agree with you in large extent, but you are also making my point for me. "Cancel culture" always begins with doing something that most people would agree is good, right, and mutually beneficial for all. The problem is, it rarely knows when to stop. And where is room for robust debate without getting cancelled? This cancelling of debate has been going on for years, well before Trump ever even announced he was running for president. So right now people are blaming Trump, but I believe Trump is just a symptom of a bigger problem in the USA. Read a portion of George Washington's farewell address as President of the USA Sept. 17, 1796. I believe his comment is prophetic. "However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." Everyone thinks Washington is talking about "those people and their candidate" when really all of us should be taking Washington's words to heart for the sake of our country. The problem is political parties are turning "[us], the people" into pawns being thrown at one another while political elites stand back and throw words at each other with impunity. Words should have consequences for everyone. But what happens when someone proof texts them or us? The longer the speech, the more we can find something to point at as inflammatory. If I say, "We need to fight for what is right," did I just incite a mob to go attack? Or did I mean we need to oppose someone else's position? But then how hard should we oppose it? With violence? See it becomes a slippery slope and I do not know how we're going to return from this unless we can come together as one people. *sigh* I pray for unity in our country, all our leaders (regardless of political party), and for healing. BTW, Yes, the USSR was a key to defeat Germany. Of course, Stalin first agreed with Hitler to divide Poland in two to "keep the peace". Then when fighting did come, Russian troops were sent into battle against Germany and if they tried to return, they were shot (by political order). On the German side, a holocaust friend of mine, who survived Auschwitz, told me he saw entire companies of German soldiers marched into gas chambers because they either could no longer or would no longer fight. The soldiers thought they were going to the showers. He told me, neither he nor the other Jews said a word to them about where they were really going. People are pawns which politicians fire at each other's "group" with zero impact on themselves. Only "We, the People" can stop allowing ourselves to be used as pawns.

Given the timing, I'd say this was part of the slow production chain (or a glitch). We'll probably be getting a new Slave-1 soon anyway, especially with next year's Book of Boba Fett on Disney +.

re this; I believe an awful lot of Russian soldiers died fighting Germany...so I get that some Russian Leaders may have their extreme views but Russia was a key factor in beating Germany. Overall my view is somewhat opposite. Not about cancel culture; but more about what's going on w/ Trump of which you cite Trump's situation. I feel like seeing what Trump was able to do and how he was enabled is closer to the forces that resulted in the atrocities you cite. I see the current backlash against Trump as more of a "market correction" to use an analogy. It's no secret that if you spout racist rhetoric you get censored; if you take violent positions you lose your job or get impacted financially. My sentiment is more of "It's about damn time". Trump is more poster child of a dictator than victim...thank goodness some folks came to their senses.

I got ya

I tried to replace "AYYY!" with LEGO!...but failed ☹️

The media and politicians on both sides have hammered home this idea of interference and fraud for the last 4+ years. That will certainly sow the seeds of distrust. People tend not to trust things they don’t know. The entire process needs to be transparent. But not just transparent, but the population needs to be educated. I have no idea if things that occurred with ballots were fraudulent. There are things that seem “unusual” to me, but I also feel that’s because I’m not educated on how, say, Pennsylvania, runs their elections. I’m not familiar with 49 other state constitutions to know whether something was legal. I just don’t know. But if we could have a little time after all of this to take a deep breath and explain things instead of yelling at one another, I think I’d feel better.

Most people discredited this & many other real issues as "conspiracy theories" in the past. Well... Now world leaders are openly speaking about these "theories" & they're planning them in front of our own eyes. Suddenly a "whack internet idea of a bunch of idiots" has become reality. A conspiracy that is too obvious, isn't a conspiracy anymore, it's a bet on how stupid people can be, failing to realize what's coming. At this point I feel like it's a way of them to make fun of us, to show how little power we actually possess. And the ones that can make a serious impact by informing the public & fighting this system simply get censored. 2020 was the year of censoring on YouTube, which is not a surprise to me. It's dictatorial socialist fascism for the wealthy & powerful. It's like playing Monopoly while you own the board, the figures, the properties, the houses and the rigged dice. Of course you can laugh this all off & continue to live in your bubble, but you can't stop what's coming.

My local store was restocked today. Still 20% off thankfully. They also got some T1s and Vestas.

It was a lot easier to just type his thoughts to the world during his 5am dump.

Couple of random points to add to the discussion: 1. Trump’s personal account got banned, but not after he got many many many second chances ... there were a lot of ToS violations. Let’s not ignore that when discussion his ‘cancellation’. 2. One of the first things Trump did was cancel press appearances, allegedly because of ‘fake news’. He only spoke to Fox. I hope and expect that Biden will pick up where things were left with Obama and all presidents before him - talk to both sides of the press to create openness and allow for dialogue. 3. Some folks are mentioning Incitement to Violence on behalf of Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi during the BLM days this summer. My research on this has not turned up anything (Calling for “defunding the police” or reviewing police protocols or “making your voice heard” don’t fall in Riot territory IMO). Can someone point me to a reputable source for these comments?

Trump is not a victim here. He has had a whole administration to "debate" but his responses were typically ; I'm right because it's popular or the other side is fake news...rarely did he actually embrace discourse. What is the other side to do when up against: "fake news/media bias" and no actual discussion? You can continue on w/ the evils of "cancel culture" because it has a name; but to me, many of the examples sounds like good 'ol consequences for bad behavior. Debate needs both sides to argue points...if one side refuses then what is the other side to do?

even if it's a "massive restock" I don't see how it could be a loser (illusion of plentitude); retirement in EU makes it eventually "done"; there's also a $50 release of the ship so LEGO ain't making a better version anytime soon; and it's also timestamped as an anniversary set...with a unique anniversary MF. AND the freakin Book of Fett comes out in Dec. I mean C'mon every single freakin box is checked and then some...

When/If you get your orders, could you post the seal codes? I have a bad feeling about this...

bobafett? boba fett?!? Where?

Not going to touch the rest of it, but..Check your facts... he didn’t divest himself of anything. Just stood by a stack of blank papers, said some words, and promised His sons would run it an not tell him anything. complaint: social media sucks, and it’s killing us.

Slave I at LEGO: https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/slave-l-20th-anniversary-edition-75243

Dude, I have no issue saying Donald Trump's name and actually did just that at the end of my post that you quoted so I have no clue what you are talking about. I honestly don't think a democrat or republican would act like Trump while in the office of the presidency and that's my hand's down honest opinion of the situation and it's one I think a number of people share. I'm an independent politically. I voted for Clinton, but supported his impeachment because he clearly broke the law by lying. I also voted for McCain when he ran for president. I have no problem calling out BS on either side of the political spectrum and Trump's baseless claims over election fraud went too far and incited a mob. The issue I have with these slippery slope arguments that you propose and that a number of others have posted is that they reach too many hypothetical Orwellian conclusions that are not represented by the events at hand and engage in "Whataboutism" to try a gain traction and in doing so deflect from the real problem at hand--Trump used his social media presence to incite people to violence. I think you are an intelligent person. I think everyone who has posted to this thread over the past week is also an intelligent person and that your opinions are valid and matter. I don't think assumptions or rabbit holes are going to help.

Hello all, This thread seems to have died down some time ago, but I am wondering has anyone on here done a MOC of 10264 Corner Garage using two sets? The one I have my eyes on doing is the one done by Frank Boor. Unfortunately, there are no instructions available of the build, so the speed build is the only way right now to follow along to a certain degree. It was also featured on Promo Bricks here (https://www.promobricks.de/lego-10264-creator-expert-eckgarage-doppelpack-beleuchtung/74422/). Any comments, feedback, etc are always welcome. Thank you in advance.

*cries in 2013 stock in my inventory*

An actual deal for the Deals thread. Amazon has the zombie cave for $16.82, limit 3 Amazon Business has the same, much higher limit. https://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Minecraft-Zombie-21141-Building/dp/B075RDZLZ5/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Lego+zombie+cave&qid=1610498040&sr=8-1

On my way home from WM shopping I picked up a used "complete" 7739 Coast Guard Patrol Boat And Tower for $5 off CL. Looks like all the pieces are there and it's clean.

Yup , I just ignore it . Lol

Agreed. I've tried to fix some of them ("Jeep" trademark violation on old polybags), but nothing seems to work. Ignore or delete, and move on.

LEGO Star Wars Millennium Falcon 75192 https://www.walmart.com/ip/LEGO-Star-Wars-Millennium-Falcon-75192/138857969

Yep. I am going to ignore most of them since I have been OOS for a while

Might be a good idea to combine a slave one with a Harry Potter purchase to double dip on the promos. If the Star Wars set gets canceled, you'll still get both promos.

Congrats for showing restraint! I would have found it very difficult not to be at least a little snarky.

Dude, go to sleep; it's just LEGO and you should focus energy on your new job it ain't gonna retire after one evening...you'll have 2+ years to get it and it may even go on sale. Ninjago City was clearanced out at $170 (as I recall)

Straying off topic into politics. Let's right the ship, please. *still crying in 2013 stock in my inventory*

Sure. It was trending. Why was general Flynn and Sidney Powell suspended too? Trunks White House account was suspended for a bit but is now back up. Why was Ron Paul censored on Facebook?

I guess y’all forgot about this summer all the tweets from Pelosi, Kamala, and others definitely inciting violence. They were not banned. How convenient.

Um... lame if you have one maybe... not lame if you don’t and refuse to drop $500 for it on ebay... also this is lego... over 30% of their sets are remakes every year

there was always going to be remakes of these popular ships; that was a given being downscaled helps re-sell of the bigger ones

SCOTUS has said that hate speech is considered protected speech under the First Amendment. Personally, I don't like the idea of censoring anyone, especially POTUS. It makes him into a martyr, honestly. But censoring one side, because you don't like what they say - that's something that's done in a dictatorship. And yes, I understand the argument that Twitter/Facebook/etc are "private" companies (they're publicly traded companies). But big companies, that get too much power, have been broken up in the past. And the slippery slope becomes too easy to go down. Where do we draw the line? What happens when your opinion is unpopular? Do you really want to be muffled?

I would argue that the side that controls the majority of the media in the country is the side that could most effectively suppress truth and propagate propaganda. I wish there was a TV media outlet that properly investigated, published only facts and showed reactions from both sides. Unfortunately, no media company seems to feel that there is any money to be made in that so it probably won't happen. The two people I mentioned above, John Sullivan and Leslie (Logan) Grimes, were definitely there, both by self admission. The MSM would have us believe that there were absolutely no non-Trump supporters there and if you say/think otherwise you will be "canceled". Suppression of the ideas and beliefs of the opposition is the first step towards authoritarian rule. If you believe only having a two party system in America is bad wait until it becomes a one party system.