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I could be completely wrong about SSS, but I think we will still see them at TRU for years (literally 100 in the store, I haven't seen SC 100 deep)

The sold listings make me happy

Got one from Target today. Excellent condition. That will go to the winner of the Batman Bundle.

Resellers BS'ing resellers. Classic.

http://goo.gl/JjY9Np Hopefully retiring soon but no one really knows.

Guess I've been buying the wrong Poe in hopes of retirement. Never seem to get this stuff right... On a positive note its canopy is flawless...

Sold mine for $295 today. Buyer left a note to "Take care of the box so it doesn't get damaged and so the seals don't break, im buying this for my son as a gift." Because sealed boxes are what every kid looks for before building a set...

wow, I completely disagree with most of this post, that's quite impressive. "The Sea Cow was a lazy average design." => Nope. "The only reason for the pop in price is that so few were purchased and it started at a $250 price point which was dumb" I bet it's more complicated than that. "...in and of itself when the movie is directed primarily towards kids." => It doesn't mean adults didn't like it. Or that some kids have parents that can buy a $250 set to them. "They could have done with a $100 ship set and spent time elsewhere." => I'm sure that if they produced a big cuckoo palace you would have say the same thing. "There's nothing special about this thing" => lol ? "they should have put the effort into making a few more better larger Pirate Ships and another Imperial Flagship with a different design when they re-released those few Pirate sets last year." => Investors are glad to buy ships but the queen anne's revenge, black pearl and now brick bounty weren't that popular back in the days. And the fact that the sea cow exists doesn't mean that Lego couldn't create a "serious" UCS ship (and they didn't). It's like saying that Lego can't create a motorcyle set just because the orange one in the movie does exist. "Some of the decisions made by the LEGO group are irrational." => I'm confident that these are rational... as a manufacturer point of view. You have to consider all the sets produced and factury capacities. All is about money and I dare say Lego do know what they do.

Good idea. Now we just need a mod to move 2/3 of The Tumbler thread into this one. I polish my mint Tumblers twice a day, by the way.

I wish I knew. I make up crap all the time.

Simple really. the CEO of the parent company wants to build an online shopping portal, which is SYW (blend of ****** and alibaba). Rather than fund this the normal way, with massive VC cash, he is going old school. Basically leaching cash from Kmart and Sears to build up the new company. Kmart will go under as it debt increases and ultimately file for bankruptcy (again), and likely disappear as assets are sold off. Sears may not die out completely but will also declare bankruptcy (again), and some of their sub brands may be sold off (craftsman, lands end, kenmore, etc). But since SYW, SEARS, and Kmart are all separate corporations SYW will be insulated from the bankruptcies. SYW becomes a billion dollar shopping portal (probably not but thats the plan...), and the parent company goes on to higher profits after shedding all the dead weight (ie debt). and of course we get to ride along, filling our own pockets, then jumping ship when we see the waterfall...

Spoken like someone who hasn't seen or built it. There are plenty of pirate ships. There is only one sea cow

Some beautiful soul out there thought hey I'm gonna buy a MF and use my 5 year old 2011 LEGO bags and reseal some Megabloks, Tyco, and Cobi blocks (doing a piss poor job at that I may add) and send this back to Target instead. Why pay for something when you can be this much of a low life and return it. I mean it does require hard to work to be able to buy your kid or yourself something nice. Why bother with that hard work when there are alternatives such as this... And yes that is the Salvage tag that was removed from the middle of the box. You know the one someone said they "must destroy" to keep brand integrity up. Seen many switch outs in my business this one just was one of the more flagrant ones on a LEGO item.

Retired on Lego.com US.

This just in - Star Wars Episode 8 has been pushed back from May 2017 to December 15, 2017: http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-viii-to-open-december-15-2017

Ok, so, let's start over here. Because I think some people are missing my point. Poe's Black X-wing (which contains, Poe in flight jacket, Goss Towers, and BB8) comes out September 4th. From the get go it's some what hard to find. Six months later it becomes extremely scarce, then in July you see Poe's Blue X-wing (which contains Poe in the other jacket, BB8, Lor San Tekka, and a Flametrooper)… All that really changed was the black to blue color, and a small change in the minifigs (bye bye goss towers, and hello Lor San Tekka).. Why is that not feasible? I also am convinced there will be another OT x-wing for Rogue One. There are pictures of the stage with this very x-wing floating on the internet. The Rogue One setlist has also not been revealed, and i'd suspect we will see another september "force friday" event for that movie…

Hero Factory 44023/44024 (total cost $6) on eBay for $36.

I think it is complete realistic to think that lego will retire Poe's X-wing after only a year. As mentioned earlier there is a new movie based entirely on an x-wing squadron coming out at the end of the year. It would be silly for lego to not put out a different x-wing at the end of the year. It is also known information that lego is going to put out a differnt x-wing in the summer. It makes no sense business wise for lego to have 3 x-wing models out at the same time. Im not saying they are retiring it in the next couple of months I an just stating that it is completely possible that it will not make it to 2017.

Have you seen my mansion?

Technically the rate change is good news for people selling 14oz-16oz items. These can be shipped First Class instead of Priority (save you $2/item). Yep, it is the only positive thing that can be said about this change

I'm going to mirror Roy's views here. No one on this site has 'the knowledge'. What we gain is experience and a better understanding based on patterns. Trying to anticipate retirements for modulars, UCS and Advanced Creator sets is tricky as a number of factors come into play and can easily affect their decision as to whether they are retired or kept in production. You should spend some time on the site reading threads and compiling your own analysis and from that develop your own conclusions. This way you're better set to your own budget, timeframe and expectations.

Bought another 10179, oouch... But can't wait to build this one

Seriously! Read through the forum, check out the respective threads for Pet Shop, Parisian Restaurant as well as the current thread, and you'll find masses of thoughts. Every couple of hours there's at least one Brickpicker who has thoughts on these sets' due retirement.

Any posts further bashing another forum member or generally being rude or being off topic or etc will be summarily deleted. I love deleting posts.

and officially retired in the US

i don't think i noticed this before : 42009 MKII is done

and now for some facts. http://www.brickpicker.com/bpms/search.cfm?searchterm=AT-AT 1000 piece AT-AT's are released on a remarkably consistent 3-4 year schedule since 2003. we're not due for another until 2017 at the earliest and possibly not until 2018. interest in AT-AT is being driven by the Battlefront game and all thing Star Wars. there was hardly a safer LEGO bet in 2014-15 then AT-AT.

related note ..... my how the mighty have fallen http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XJX64XW it is approaching buy levels lol

Yes. Exactly. There are those of us that aren't Master Builders. As some one that isn't a MB, I could never design a ship as awesome as the Sea Cow. But, building it and displaying it makes me feel like I can. Those are your opinions and feelings. Not necessarily everyone else. There are other people that feel just the opposite; they don't like Star Wars, but they did like the LEGO Movie. I'm 43, and felt like that movie was aimed more at me than at my kids. Sure my kids enjoy it on a superficial level. But there's actually a lot of depth in that movie. There's quite a few characters the movie that I could either identify with. Much like Rocky & Bullwinkle and Bugs Bunny, there are many different levels this movie can be enjoyed on. From your point of view. Not from their point of view. LEGO is sitting on top of the toy world. I'm sure they have some confidence that the decisions they've made over the last 10 years, to get them from as low as they were to being on top, makes them feel they know what they are doing. Look, I'm not trying to change people's minds here. I couldn't care less whether you like or not. I'm very happy that people didn't horde this, as I think it will do well post EOL. I do get tired of the constant poo poo'ing on this set, instead of just letting it go. If you don't like it, just move on. Let those of us that like it, enjoy it, and want to discuss it merits do that. Just like with any other set.

How many times are we going to hear your opinion on the sea cow? If you don't like it move along.....it's pretty simple.

I started this thread so that all of the Tumbler condition chatter can be centralized into one thread, where it will hopefully not be read because... well people really don't care. Thanks P.S. I have 10 Tumblers. Some are dinged up, but I have two of them that are in A+ mint condition that I polish daily.

I love this set! My husband is from Somalia so we totally built this with a small boat behind it. I am waiting for all his friends to buy my extra ones from us just because the Captain Phillips movie. In reality that whole situation is so depressing, one has to have some humor.

This is bought as part of a full trailer load, was just posting to show what some people do in this world. This product is mine and there is no recourse on it , its not much money just the fact people do this stuff. It is a small percentage as well looking at the big picture but still pretty ridiculous.

Previously, there was a minimum of 3 years between film releases. 18 months-24 months doesn't even get you from one Prequel film to the next. With 18 months between Episode VII and VIII, they'll have to figure out some way to balance these films and the non numeric films. They could keep the carryovers around for 2 years, but I assume that they would want to get new buyers who already had the TFA stuff.

After another rough day on Wall Street, I can safely say, once again...LEGO sets are better investments than stocks.

How do you think they got that Mansion?

Yeah I was thinking that but like Jeffrey_Dollars said literally every single other TFA set is and has been back in stock for quite a while in my area, for weeks actually. I want this set personally and for future investment because I really liked the character and think it's a pretty cool looking ship. We should also factor in the new Rogue One movie this year. I am positive Lego / Disney will want to have all new X-Wings and other ships to release as that movie approaches which could push this one to retirement sooner or at the very least limit it's production. Why take up X-Wing valuable store shelf space with Poe for a movie that's released 9 months ago when Lego could put out all new ships and pilots based on Rogue One like Wedge, etc.? Poe's ship is unique, but i'm sure they'll find a way to make the ships in Rogue One somewhat unique as well. Just my thoughts on it, could be totally wrong. I think to look at the past release schedules, retirement dates, etc. for Star Wars Lego specifically simply doesn't hold up anymore. Never in the history of Lego or Star Wars have we had so many movies coming out so quickly. 1 per year for the foreseeable future. I believe strongly that this will cause a shift in how they release Star Wars sets, how long they "live", etc.

Here you go guys building instructions for the Dalek

Given the time-warp your local Kmart's are in, @exciter1, they'll close 5 years after all the others lock up

I will be sad when they are gone.

How I feel reading this thread:

Exactly. If I've hit my exit number, and you want to buy from me, I don't care what you do with it. I'm ready to exit. If you want to resell after me, hoping for bigger profits - go for it.

^maybe his/her son is a QFLL

I kayak around alligators all the time, never had a problem. Oysters, on the other hand, will mess you up.

No need to leave 'the game' (I'm expanding operations at the moment, in fact) just don't know that adding any more PS or PC until the fall is worthwhile, and maybe not even then. At this point, I might leave it up to F5 when I'm pretty sure the Sold Out on S&H will stick for good. It would be nice if Europe would retire a whole bunch of awesome sets again this fall and leave me time to go absolutely nuts on sets that were almost guaranteed to retire shortly.

this is easily a 3x MSRP set and i'm in no hurry to sell so we'll see how high it gets. now if the rest of the JW line fades off into the EOL-sunset everything could be just beautiful. glad i saved a few for later.

I hate when people hit you up via CL asking about an item posted and then you respond and then you never hear from them again. It's like, why even bother if you really aren't interested? It gets me excited because I think I'm going to make a sale and then I'm left hanging. I'll even send a follow-up email just to remind the person about the item and I still don't get a response. It's just irritating. If you contact me and then aren't interested, at least respond to the follow-up email and tell me you aren't interested. Freaking CL, man. Rant over.

From Target.com: Really...?