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The Town Hall is retired as far as I know and I do not believe it will make a comeback with the exception of a sporadic and short lived in stock appearance. While LEGO can indeed change their core philosophy and reproduce retired sets, I haven't heard such a drastic change is coming. But a change is coming nonetheless. Reproducing retired sets would reduce the value of LEGO sets on the secondary market and I don't believe LEGO wants to reduce the value of their product, either on the primary or secondary markets. LEGO is very smart and does pay attention to the values of their sets on the secondary markets regardless what many think. The two work hand in hand with one another. The perceived high values on the secondary market filters over to the primary market every day. Many LEGO fans or collectors will pay $400 for a set because they know it increases in value after retirement. If this sets dropped in value after use and time, how would buying patterns change? Quite a bit I would say. LEGO has ALWAYS been an expensive product. When I was a kid 40 years ago, till now, it has been an expensive product. But like with anything that is of high caliber and finely produced, there is an increased price tag. You get what you pay for is very true with LEGO sets and people don't seem to mind paying for this higher cost, because they know they are buying a product made with the highest standards and the potential to increase in value after purchase. Should you buy a Town Hall now at $300 if you don't have one? Probably. I bought a Cafe Corner at $575 and a Taj Mahal at $400 and that has turned out well. I'm not saying the Town Hall will reach those levels, but it will be a non hoarded, short production run Modular, so I say there is a good chance of this set hitting lofty numbers.

I built my first vintage set. It was actually my first huge ship as a kid which had been misplaced years ago. Bought this one off ebay. It was a so great to assemble. If you listen closely towards the end you can hear how brittle the bricks while pulling apart the modules. Enjoy.

While one hits f5 all day another is buying pet shops and enjoying their day.

Could always plan in advance to reach your quota so you don't have to sit in front of your pc all the time hitting that poor F5 button.

I can see where this fits into this thread. Please let me know what you decide. Very curious.

Use a shorter network cable,

Three weeks ago. If people aren't buying yet, they certainly are looking.

"Passing the torch"...literally

If this whole "out of order" EOL for the sets is true, it will make things quite interesting. If TLGs main deciding factor to end a set early is due to lack sales, and to keep other sets because they sell well will mean as a investor you reeeeeeally need to know where you're putting your money and have a strong game plan. Not just buying near what one believes is a sets soon to be EOL because you may just miss the boat. With that said, we should probably change this threads title to town hall/TLGs play to mess with resellers.

Would emazers be considered smart reseller based on that policy? Epic Dragon thing being one of the few mistakes of course

Remember when this forum wasn't full of a$$holes? It was great.

Who knows, but chance favors the prepared mind...

Well stated. Also, lego probably doesn't enjoy dealing with massive returns when a set that appeared to be eol blazes back to life with no discernible end.

* You buy a set $200 at LEGO Shop at Home and you build it. Another guy buy the same set on LEGO Shop at Home. Lego gets $400. Lego is happy and will add some extra hugs and kisses in your next order. * You buy a set $200 at LEGO Shop at Home just before it's sold out. Another guy wants this set soooo much, you resell it to him for $300 on a craiglist. This guy wanted this set and have no more money to spend on LEGO Shop at Home. Lego gets $200 . Lego is upset because you made money thanks to them and the guy didn't pay RRP, meaning they may be finally disappointed and can change their mind and later buy other toys, or less sets, because of that disappointement. Lego would like that you do not resell sets, and that: * You do not invest in legos. Another guy buy a $200 set on LEGO Shop at Home. Lego gets $200. Lego is happy because it's how things are supposed to be. Of course, if you buy a set $200 and resell it 2 years later on a craiglist for $200, lego will not care that much about it. The only thing that may upset them is that you sold a 2011 Ninjago set, and they would prefer to sell their 2014 Chima sets, so the buyer will be tempted to buy some other 2014 Chima sets (still available).

If I want a surprise box of "Lego compatible" bricks I'll take my chances with a monthly eBay purchase of brick lots that say they are Lego. There are bound to be less disappointments and a higher percentage of actual Legos.

I'm guessing there are thousands of HH in hoardage...I mean storage.

So I had a mini heart attack twice tonight. I know how highly I'm thought of around these parts so I thought I'd let you all know. Here's what promted the heart attack... So I thought it would be a good idea to have my. Nephew separate bricktober sets. Thought it would be educational. He is 3.He started jumping and almost fell flat on them all. Happend twice. he then after stacking tried jumping over them barley made it . I was about to have so many pancakes. I fired him. Child labor sucks.

There products are a great quality compared to you're ordinary boxes. They just rotate the boxes on "sale" every few months. Shipping is very reasonable but I would recommend ordering a pallets worth if you are not local. They get heavily reduced freight rates and thats your best option. You can get a pallet shipped through them usually for under $75 as they ship from the closest facility. Also if you order $300 or $500 pick a free gift that you can sell and you get some money back that way. The Johnny Trigg BBQ kits and Tervis tumblers sell well also. We order once a week and they use local delivery as they are in our city and charge about $35 shipping for the whole order. Stuff like the packing peanuts and bubble wrap are impossible to pick up so it works out great. I stock about 30-40 box sizes so we just order whats out for the week. Issues with product damage are cut way down as the boxes are 200lb strength and don't crush as easily as economy stock boxes. Some good starter sizes for LEGO products are 6x6x6 12x9x4 12x8x6 10x10x4 14x12x6 16x12x4 18x12x6 20x14x6 and for larger modular type sets 24x24x6 The white boxes good for polybags are S-156 and S-159 for the small box sets If you're ordering just a bundle though the time you factor in UPS ground it might not be worth it for you needs but if you want to stock up and not have to worry about ordering them it can be a good deal. You can get a ton of boxes on a pallet.

More Mixels Series 1 for $110. Who was selling them at $99 and undercutting all of us either gave up or got bought. Good! Get out of my way, please. Let's raise the price, not lower it.

Sale this month at Uline for shipping boxes. Up to 40% off http://www.uline.com/Product/GuidedNav.aspx?t=301310 edit: I have yet to get anywhere near 40% though. Trying out various combinations the most I could get was 30%

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I agree with Young_gun....my philosophy is you can't sell it if it isn't listed. Anticipate pricing, adjust accordingly, then sit back and watch your bobber. The season is already hot and heavy, so get busy!

It's a pretty nice set that has been exclusive. It has been largely available up until now though (and I bet it's still on a lot of shelves, the LEGO store in Berlin I visited did have plenty of them). For 99

now. Seriously, list what you have at semi-crazy prices, you can always discount it in a month.

So, if the change in policy is along the lines of complete unpredictability of set retirement (or demand-driven retirement, which means "unpredictable", since we would not know exact numbers), the smart resellers would be the ones that buy "right" sets regularly, rather than try to time the EOL

Alas poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest...

Surely that won't be the title of the movie? It's an awful title.

I believe he has stated that the "change" is underway. TH appearing to retire soon is probably part of that.

Episode 7 now has an official title that is listed at http://www.starwars.com/ The Force Awakens

The sporadic availability of big sets at Amazon + 1 click orders must be a PITA for 3PS with the lowest prices :D

i don't think TLG takes resellers into account for any decisions related to production. that's like asking if the dog is concerned about the well-being of the flies swarming over its droppings. this is simple - its about money. i think there is an overestimation of the contribution of the reseller hoarding to LEGO's revenue. if LEGO revenue was so greatly influenced by the resellers, LEGO investors would all be screwed because it means demand is pathetic.

A lot of people are overthinking this. Go back to Occam's razor: what's the simple answer? The Town Hall wasn't selling well, so LEGO decided to retire it. TADA! Seriously, take a look at the Amazon sales rankings for this thing. It was a terrible seller. I don't know the sales ranking algorithms, but if I had to guess, it was selling about one per week earlier this year. http://camelcamelcamel.com/LEGO-Creator-10224-Town-Hall/product/B007Q72ZA8?context=browse

Highly unlikely....

Sold out in the European LEGO Online Shop

Calm down, it wasn't a super serious post it was half joke and half just an observation that strange things have been happening with the official "statuses" on LEGO Shop at Home both on product page and on orders. In the past 'sold out' was sold out period. Now we know 'sold out' means nothing and even the stronger 'retired' one has had its exemptions e.***. post office, et al. Recently we have seen the special statuses for RI and Tumbler at least on USA and the fact that you have it back online worries me since I gambled a little getting some of them hopping to do an evil quick flip on xmas. So we'll see how that turns out. The SDD = my stupid misspelling for 10221 Super Star Destroyer was available on Amazon USA for a few minutes, I saw the emails less than a minute too late got to see it but my "1-click" did not go through. Several BP'ers scored go to to the Daily deals for more info. I still have no idea what is going on with TH, this "in warehouse" is the cherry on the cake. Probably Ed is right and it is gone and we are only seeing skeletons but my point is that LEGO can play all sort of surprises on us in either direction hence the messing with us part. And this does not necessarily means that LEGO intentionally is surprising resellers just that we speculate so much that we bring this upon ourselves. $XX.XX is just a convention the same way people have time zones, SI and imperial units, comma versus point for decimals, etc. So I don't know why but that is the norm. In any case I am about to fall asleep so if anything above did not make sense just ignore it, have a good day/night.

Desperetely seeking TH in the warehouse

What he said. Open the box in the first 30 seconds. If you feel the need to explain what a subscription service is, do it while you're opening or after you're done. Also I think you said "really cool" about 700,000 times. Change up your vocabulary a bit. I would also edit out the part where you nearly knock the box off the table. I know this sounds a little harsh, but, you still did a better job than 99% of the similar videos out there and you did waaayyyy better than I could have done.

I agree. Going to shop for Black Friday on Thanksgiving is just wrong. I liked it when the stores opened earlier on BF like 4-6 a.m., which is earlier than the standard hours. I really don't like the feeling of knowing that people are shopping at the exact same time that I'm eating my Thanksgiving meal.

So, undercut you to maximize the product I'm moving?

Annnnnd...time to start listing mine.

Making yet another MSRP showing at LL's and Discovery Centers. Love, love, love this set: a classic, timeless plane and not overly hoarded.

I also my introduce me 10 year old to ebay and pay her a buck to ship/pack each of these Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Brickpicker mobile app

Oh no... the archenemy of every good collector: The Dustmonster!

Sold Mixels 41500 41501 41502 3 pack for $39.50 shipped.

I would recommend cracking that one open sooner rather than later. Once it goes EOL, you're going to feel the pressure to keep it sealed when the price starts climbing. This is the very rare set that I bought day one and built it. It's an awesome display piece.

It was not referring to you, but let me comment anyway. I was referring to people who clean a store out of any item. It brings negative attention to all of us. We do not all hit the maximum purchase amount when buying something like ravenb99 said. Many of us do not buy and flip short term. Moderating purchasing techniques and spreading around your purchases will help us all in the future. A guy like emazers spreads his purchases out, by stores and time. He doesn't acquire 50 of an exclusive set in a one time purchase, that is why he hasn't been banned at every LEGO store. Do what you want. I am speaking from experience and how not to draw attention to yourself. I have well over 7000 sets and never was banned, questioned or left Little Johnny with no sets to buy.

^ when you buy 1000s of sets a year from a dozen or so sources it is easy to miss a few. My best "lost inventory" was two GG miss labled. That was a nice surprise.

This and people in general are just impatient and want immediate results. These are the same people that won't last long in this game.

Always zag when everyone else zigs. That is how you win. :)

Alpinemaps performs: "I've Smooshed Everywhere" I was totin' my pack along the dusty Carlsbad road, When along came a semi with a high an' Lego logo-covered load. "If you're goin' to Legoland, Mack, with me you can ride." And so I climbed into the cab and then I settled down inside. He asked me if I'd seen a road with so much dust and sand. And I said, "Listen, I've smooshed every road in this here land!" [Chorus:] I've smooshed everywhere, man. I've smooshed everywhere, man. CMFs are running bare, man. I've breathed that Mixel air, man. Of flipping I've had my share, man. I've smooshed everywhere. I've smooshed at: TRU Reno, Discovery Chicago, Wal-mart Fargo, Target Minnesota, Walgreens Buffalo, TRU ca Toronto, Mom & Pop at Winslow, CVS Sarasota, Jewel/Osco Wichita, dumpster in Tulsa (Quizno's), Craig's List Oklahoma, Series 1 in Tampa, 2 in Panama, 3 in Mattawa, 4 La Paloma, 5 Bangor, Emazers house in Baltimore, 7 in Salvador, Series 8 Amarillo, 9 in Tocapillo,, I'm a killer. [Chorus] I've been to: Lego store in Boston, Simpsons Figs in Charleston, skipped Louisiana, Washington, Houston, Kingston, Texarkana, Monterey, Faraday, Santa Fe, Tallapoosa, Glen Rock, Black Rock, Little Rock, Oskaloosa, Tennessee to Tennesse Chicopee, Spirit Lake, Grand Lake, Devils Lake, Crater Lake, for Pete's sake. [Chorus] I've been to: Louisville, Nashville, Knoxville, Ombabika, Schefferville, Jacksonville, Waterville, Costa Rica, Pittsfield, Springfield, Bakersfield, Shreveport, Hackensack, Cadillac, Fond du Lac, Davenport, Idaho, Jellico, Argentina, Diamantina, Pasadena, Catalina, see what I mean-a. [Chorus] I've been to: Pittsburgh, Parkersburg, Gravelbourg, Colorado, Ellensburg, Rexburg, Vicksburg, Eldorado, Larimore, Atmore, Haverstraw, Chatanika, Chaska, Nebraska, Alaska, Opelika, Baraboo, Waterloo, Kalamazoo, Kansas City, Sioux City, Cedar City, Dodge City, what a pity. [Chorus] (I've smooshed everywhere) OK joke runs out of steam, too many damn places in that song.