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I got a ton of the employee. Pm me an address and I will send you one.

From a personal standpoint, I don't see any problem with buying something from someone at the price they listed regardless of whether or not I know it is at well below market value, and I do not feel contractually obligated to tell them differently. The seller put the item up for what they felt was a good price, I thought it was a good price, we both came to an agreement, seller walks away with the amount he/she wanted and I got my item. That's it. There is nothing morally wrong with any part of that. How does anyone know the seller did not realize the item's real worth? Perhaps the item was not selling at the perceived market value so they lessened it to find a buyer. Maybe they just wanted to get rid of it. Who knows really? About the only thing on pure principal that would get a negative note is when a buyer and seller agree to a certain price beforehand and then later on the seller raises it for whatever reason. For example, if somebody had listed a set for $30 when it is actually worth $60, both buyer and seller agreed on the price it was listed for, but then they meet up and the seller wants to all of a sudden raise the price up to $60 because now he/she knows the real value. I'm sorry but that is just plain bullspit. I mean, a person should stick to the amount which was agreed to all the way through. On the same token, if the buyer goes there and then lowballs the seller that is just as equally wrong really. Point is whatever the price somebody lists anything for becomes agreed upon should be followed through on either side of the equation. If you wish to dicker price then do so before (virtually or verbally) shaking hands through phone or email. To agree on one thing to then try and alter the deal afterwards is messed up, and there is no moral obligation to tell someone what their item for sale is actually worth if it happens to be more than what they listed it for. Remember, anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I am more of an Ayn Rand type....Everyone has free will to enter into a bargain on their own terms. I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. There is nothing wrong with being "selfish". So you think that money is the root of all evil? Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Is that evil. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil. Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to men's stupidity, but your talent to their reason. For centuries, the battle of morality was fought between those who claimed that your life belongs to God and those who claimed that it belongs to your neighbors - between those who preached that the good is self-sacrifice for the sake of ghosts in heaven and those who preached that the good is self-sacrifice for the sake of incompetents on earth. And no one came to say that your life belongs to you and that the good is to live it If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would choose- because it contains all the others- the fact that they were the people who created the phrase "to make money". No other language or nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of wealth as a static quantity- to be seized, begged, inherited, shared, looted or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand that wealth has to be created.

This is really annoying and silly. The market prices are dictated by free will in America. You pay what you are WILLing to pay for an item/service. You charge what you are WILLing to accept for an item/service. That is how business is transacted. There are only 3 ways to seperate value from their owners. An agreed upon transaction price--between 2 parties, charitble giving, and the end of a gun. And be aware--taxes are taking your wealth at gunpoint. Don't pay and see what happens. They will come and ask again. Refuse, and they will come with cuffs to bring you to jail. Resist further, and you will be led away at gun point. Resist further, perhaps with arms of your own---and you will be shot. I want to sell for the highest price possible, and buy for the lowest price possible. The counter party to any of my transactions be they corporate, individual, or even governmental--should have the same goals. This is how "price" is set. This is how a "market" is made. Any advantage I get in these transactions is from the hours and hours...and hours...I spend researching/testing the market. Do the hours I spend have no value? Should I not have an advantage in the market place from all of my research and experience? Perhaps the federal or state government should institute wage and price controls on lego? To protect the kids and the ill informed of course...We must, as a society protect these people from taking a loss on the sale of their no longer wanted legos....right? Are you suggesting I am a predator, and the gentleman I bought this lot from was a victim---too timid, and ill minded---and in need of YOUR help to save him and his kids? He was over the age of 18, looked about 50--and didn't seem feeble minded to me. This new America is making me feel ill. This is a lego INVESTING site. Most of us here buy lego with the hope of turning a profit on them at some point in the future---whether that is 10 seconds from the point of sale, or 10 years, makes no difference---your morals be damned! Nobody has a moral high ground selling lego products--new or used. If it makes you feel good about yourself by helping widows and orphans by paying more of your money for their goods, I suggest you keep that foolishness to yourself..at least on a lego investment site.

Harry Potter: 4768-2 The Durmstrang Ship with (4) Bonus Minifigures Star Wars: 7679 Republic Fighter Tank Agents: 8636: Deep Sea Quest Bionicle: 10203 Voporak 10204 Vezon & Kardas 8942-2 Super Charged Jetrax T6 Power Miners: 8708 Cave Crusher Toy Story: 7598 Pizza Planet Truck Rescue Ninjago: 30080 Ninja Glider 30083 Dragon Fight Legends of Chima: 70013 Equila

Every three Wal-Mart Black Friday Metroplexes is one more Haunted House you could have bought. Shame on you.

I'm not clear if you're claiming Willy is as soulless as Johnny Depp, but there's a rather important difference between the items' owner (or agent) offering up a lot of Lego at $50 and Willy/Johnny paying the asking price without going into details on the ultimate fate of the items in question, versus Johnny coming in as an expert, claiming the items he wants are worthless when he knows differently, and offering a few cents on the dollar after lying about their value. Any seller of Lego or rare books has every opportunity to do their own research on non-biased venues to determine what they're worth and then try to get that price. I am under no obligation to educate the lazy, shiftless, busy, distracted, or stupid; nor am I interested in humoring any bizarre notion that a pile of commodity children's toys ought not to be resold to anyone who isn't going to hand them to a deserving starving waif and/or the nearest spoiled brat they have jurisdiction over.

Has anyone considered that these waves weren't intentional, but rather an unintended consequence of extreme demand met only with typical distribution? I assume all 41999's were produced in the same factory and it seems unlikely that TLG would fly inventory internationally. So you have: manufacturing time + shipping prep time + travel to port + ship load + sailing time + ship offload + customs + travel to continental distribution center + inventory tracking + distribution planning + travel to rail yard or semi-truck loading + cross country travel + regional and local distribution + store receiving. I don't work in distribution logistics, but I've experienced first hand the time it can take to sail on a sizable ship to another continent, as well as the wrench customs can throw into a schedule. I think without the super high demand, this whole process is transparent to the customer. Of course if the 41999 is produced in multiple factories around the world in tandem then my theory is broken. If not, what do you guys think? A simple case of TLG not able to keep up?

I don't really think there is such as thing as "passive" investing. You're either out there seeking money "greedily" or you're not... If we really break it down aren't all money making ventures that deliver you more than the utmost bare minimum of life's needs greedy? Though I see where you are coming from Diablolos, I have to agree more with Willy here, and remind everyone here that the stated purpose of this website, is an "investing guide" We all are trying to make money I'd think. Most times that means profiting off of someone else...or how I like to think of it... my hard work and dedication...

Personally, I like Amazon much better than Ebay. The fees are higher, but the traffic is much much better in my experience, particularly if you can reach Featured Merchant status. However, it is generally better if you're trying to move sets in larger quantities, rather than trying to get the absolute highest price for every set.

"receiving it" would be more appropriate.

I guess I'm still not getting what you think the difference is between a neighbor selling their old Lego on eBay and one of us paying their asking price without telling them it's worth more, and a neighbor selling their old Lego at a garage sale or on Craigslist and one of us paying their asking price without telling them it's worth more. And, social systems encompass the society, i.e, the businessmen and the neighbors. Maybe you missed that day Freshman year? :-D (I'm done now, my apologies to the mods for my part in taking this off the subject a bit too much.)

I can name you a society thats equal: 1. Aztecs 2. The Guanches 3. The Arawak They are all equally dead and extinct.

Also, there aren't millions of starving people in America. We can argue social systems all day (though not in these forums), but you can't name me a society, past or present, where everyone is equal. What you call "unscrupulous" some of us call "smart". Some can look at Willy and think "bad man", some can look at you and think "stupid man", but end of the day, personal morality is personal.

Well, there really is none other politcal economic system that works. Plus, the US is one of the most giving nations in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Giving_Index#World_Giving_Index_rankings So most people in this country are already pretty generous All of this comes from someone who lived the first 20 yrs of his life abroad, but that loves this country and its way of life more than any other. (Me, lol)

This country has not been about everyone for himself in a long time (think the New Deal and such). We could all get into an argument about all this, but the public section of the forum is not that place.

I would list them New In Sealed Box instead of Mint in Sealed Box. 9 out of 10 buyers are good with NISB, and will typically pay a similar price to MISB. That last buyer, the one you're courting with your MISB listing, will be very particular about the box condition, especially if its a scammer. I don't list any new sets as MISB - too much risk.

Cool display and a little humorous for me looking at the Vampyre Castle. I see how the scale of the castle is with everything, then glance over at my Haunted House, and realize the house is actually bigger than the castle. Somehow that doesn't seem right. :lol:

i don't think its a big deal to make money off of postage fees. after all you did agree to pay that price.However, if the seller charged you for priority, and shipped standard, that is uncool and a refund for the difference should be given. i personally do the opposite, i charge for standard and ship priority, as a result i have lots of "fast shipping!" feedbacks.

I just have trouble forking over that $$$ thinking that it might be 5 years down the road before I can get 3x - 5x my money on it. I can double my money on many sets during that 5-year period.

To me I think the line is simple. You can offer whatever and that puts the ball into the other persons court to make sure its right, whatever else. I mean, I have gotten several lots way cheaper than they were worth OR what the people asked for. However, I straight up said "I would like to pay this" and they accepted. What I don't think is moral sound is lying or being deceitful to people - telling them this isn't worth anything, etc. - used car salesman stuff - just to get a killer deal. Yes they can check up and should, but that doesn't mean you should do it. Not that anyone here was or would First of all - what you are referring to here was long resolved. No need to keep mentioning it. Dallas is a great member Exactly. no way to qualify it. You can offer 1$ - they need to check. My wife asked me this. It comes to this: If they are willing to sell it for a price, its worth that to them, then its fine. If you deceive them into thinking its worth less, thats when it gets out of hand. Recently I purchased a lot from a guy (he was awesome) that was worth in the vicinity of $1500 in used sets. they were all mixed together in a bin though. He was asking 900. It had been on CL for several weeks. I sent him a message and said "would you consider lower? Your price is good, but I am looking to add most of these to my collection and was going to see if you would come down." We talked and eventually he agreed to $400 (killer deal). When I came to get them, I told him how grateful I was because I really wanted these for my collection and it was an awesome deal. he said he knew the worth, but he wanted them to go to a fellow collector and wasn't concerned with pulling every penny he could out of them. I have kept all of them - I wont resell them because I told him I wasn't right there. Had I been lying, maybe something was wrong there. But he was perfectly willing to part with them for a third of what they were worth, so I don't think I did anything wrong by accepting that.

No he can live on a full Lego life size model of it.

Yeah was catching up on tv :p

I'll defer the commission to when you.... Sell them.

I am trying to play catch up with the Lego Winter Village sets. I have this Technic set that I would like to use as a possible trade. I am in need of the Winter Village Toy Shop but know that this set can be found on Ebay between $200 - $250. Would it be fair to ask for the Toy Shop and then another set from this series, preferably either the Winter Village Bakery or the Post Office? Thank you for your replies.

Hey Kmart, I know you are selling this LEGO 70% off of retail, but I want to be honest...It's worth retail so I'm going to pay you retail just to be honest. Hey Walmart, I know you are selling this LEGO for 60% off of retail but it just retired and is worth double retail now. Can I pay you extra? Hey Target.............

Barca you're right. I feel like eBay is an exam unto itself. Pass, and you get to price your item correctly. If you make a listing for a 4 year old Bionicle figure before you ever look at a Bionicle figure listing, you failed, and I exploit your weakness appropriately. Guilt-free. But if you're a dude with PS4 on the brain and a few dusty Lego sets you think might be worth a few bucks, I'll offer you a few bucks. Then we'll talk about how I'll make a few more bucks, the hard way. Then you'll probably take a few bucks

I think there's a fine line between a good deal and ripping someone off. If you know something is worth $200, and you're willing to offer $20... :shrug: It just says something about your own morals, which if you're ok with it... :shrug: To me it's pretty scummy to take pride of screwing people over, which some people do. It reminds me of those pawn shows. But in this sort of game (You hear people complaining that resellers clean off the shelves), you kind of have to take a "If I don't do it, someone else will" attitude. It's amazing how fast you can find yourself doing stuff that would have annoyed you prior. I anticipate as LEGO reselling increases in popularity ( as it is ) the game will get nastier exponentially, and it will happen fast. Sites like this that kind of... Encourage more resellers to get involved kind of surprise me at times. I of course love the site, but... Loose lips sink profits. As more and more people get involved and have access to awesome information like this site provides, it wll mean smaller profits for all involved in the future. Anyway, I am kind of ranting and digressing... It is frustrating when "nice guys finish last", which is often the case. I went to a garage sale once where a guy was selling a lot of Mid 2000's Star Wars sets. I honored the "no earlybirds" and showed up on time. I went and found the toys, and another guy who had been looking at other stuff (and had been there for 10 minutes already) ran over and was like, and I'll take those. He offered the guy $25 for probably $200 in legos, and right there I said to the guy, "I'll offer you $75 for the stuff, it's the only reason I came here and it's worth a lot more than $25" - And the Garage Sale holder simply said, "I'm not doing this to get rich" and sold it to the other guy anyway. So when people don't mind being ripped off, that's one thing. Bottom line though, I don't really have sympathy for folks who are trying to rip off someone (or a store, like the guy who was blatantly abusing the TRU Price Match) and then that well runs dry.

You know I agree with you on several things, but on this I just can't. I've done what you did with that lot some times and some not, but either way I don't think there is any difference between scoring a CL deal and one on eBay for way less than it is worth. I might be wrong, but I don't think you advice ebay sellers about the true value of their listings, judging by some of the great scores you get over there! (and that have very gently shared with me every now and then )

Honesty is the best policy. Don't we all get bitchy about TRU making up MSRPs? Sure buyers can inform themselves of the true values, but that doesn't let TRU off the hook. I've found that 9/10 times when I suggest the true value of lots (i'm referring to CL), most people stick to their asking price anyway, and I don't feel like I took advantage of someone's ignorance. For example, a recent Hero Factory lot I bought: I told the teen and his mom it was actually worth about 3x their asking price. I had my son with me, said most of the figures would be his and I'd sell a couple. She said, "we don't mess with ebay. If ya'll will enjoy them, take them." I'm not judging willy or frog or anybody else, just saying I might be too nice but my pillow is comfy at night.

Well, I think I finished my last Monster Fighters build of the season. We built the Ghost Train tonight. My son and I built them all except for the Haunted House and The Zombies. I'm going to set out some more random minifigs, like Jason Voorhees, Mr. Good & Evil, and at least a witch with cauldron. Other than that, it's pretty much finished.

Finally. A craigslist robin hood story that has a happy ending.

I just finished the Haunted House. Coupled with all of the monsters from the other sets, it's definitely one of the coolest sets I've ever built.

Now TLG can release another 20,000 that number from 20,001 to 40,000 but are extra special because they also include this mini version.

He got 12161 .. http://brickgarage.blogspot.ru/2013/06/exclusive-review-of-41999-4x4-crawler.html

I started Lego investing around late 2010 and since then i've invested a fair chunk of my wages each month into Lego. I have completely maxed out my loft now (which is a decent size) and have a decent amount of sets hiding in cupboards, under beds etc. However now i'm somewhat at a cross roads as i'm sitting on a pretty big gold mine i'd like to think, but very much playing the waiting game of retirements/sets increasing in price and getting the sales. I keep saying to myself that's it for now until i sell x amount of sets. Yet I still find myself buying Lego when it's on discount or if a new set comes out and I really like the look of it, i'll usually buy it. Generally i've been buying 20-25 per set (depending on the price/discount). Of course in an ideal world i'd like to be shifting sets each week and having new ones to replace them but i'm far from that. But without getting off the point, what point do you draw the line and say I have enough Lego for investing, without it becoming more of an addiction/obsession? I know that sounds weird but I have little self control, especially buying online it's very easy to buy a lot of a set without really thinking much of it.

Exactly. You either have to be disciplined about paying them off each month or just chop them up and use the various debit cards offering points and cash back instead. It's not worth carrying a balance no matter what kind of perks you get for the ridiculous interest you're paying.

I never put anything on credit either. EDIT: That's not entirely accurate. I'll use a credit card to get the points but I never buy anything I can't pay at the end of the month. No questions asked. The majority of interest rates are much larger than the growth on most Lego sets.

LEGO is like a drug man But its hard to go You must ease your way out of it.

I always draw the line at storage and financial. If I do not have enough space to store all the set, I would sell a few of each to make room for new ones. If it is money, then I would do the same thing, but sell some of the valuable sets first. It does not hurt when you see a set at a deep discount and you know that you will make money on the set in the future. Playing the waiting game is very hard for Lego investing, expecially when you do not know when a set may EOL.

I set a budget. I don't buy if I don't have it in the budget...I sell if I want to buy something else. At some point you need to quit putting new cash into your investment and let it sustain itself. If you have sets from 2010 then quit putting new cash into and start selling those... Start a one set in...one set out policy with yourself... don;t buy a new set unless you sell one.

Go about it more intentionally than, "I have some money left from my paycheck and a set's on sale". Look at what you have and what you paid for it. Set goals on when you want to sell it (double price, triple price, when you judge it's reached the apex of its value?) Set a buying budget that fits in with your overall finances for investment. I personally don't believe in keeping all my eggs in one basket investment-wise, so I invest in our business, in a variety of mutual funds of varying levels of risk, etc. Once you've spent your Lego investment money for a given time period (weekly, monthly, quarterly, whatever), stop buying until the next time period's money is available. There will always be another deal, you don't have to buy just because it's on sale.

If it does retire, will it be "unexpected"?

Good point about clearance. It would be interesting to see if they cancel the order. Personally I don't want to take the chance of it actually working. Makes me wonder what the largest Internet order they have fulfilled is.

Don't take them back, next year you will be crying the blues, think about millions of people like like haunted houses, vampires, etc. and with only a 1 year run the monster fighters will be great investment.