fuzzy_bricks Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 We will see how good they are. If I could say a sentence to JJ Abrams right now, it would be "Bad Ass Spaceships". We need them. Please give the SSD a prominent role. I am very excited to read that Max Von Sydow is in the movie. He will add an edge and some class to the movie. When I saw Max von Sydow the first thing that came to my mind was this scene from Ted. Quote
jaisonline Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 For those who think the original trilogy films look dated, i recommend watching the blu-ray editions on a 1080p or even 720p HDTV. All 3 movies (on blu-ray) honestly look like they could have been filmed in the late 1990s or early 2000s (not 1977 to 1983). Everything looks better on the blu-ray copies than the DVDs: special effects, details, colors are rich, cleaner picture, etc... Quote
exciter1 Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Please give the SSD a prominent role. I predict all new style ships, with exception to the Millennium Falcon. Quote
jaisonline Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 regarding the new famous black and white picture, rumors : rebel force radio, kyle newman, and others predict the young girl (daisy ridley) sitting in-between ford and fisher will likely be their daughter. she does look the part. sitting on the other side of abrams, is kasden. historically, with group script reads, those usually sitting closer to the director and writer have larger roles. ford reportedly signed a one film deal. if so, ford could finally get his wish with han solo getting a dramatic scene send-off. ford and others thought having solo die in ROTJ would have made it a better script. storyline disagreements with that and others are why Kurtz and Kasdan walked away after ESB. Writer/Director/Producer J.J Abrams (top center right) at the cast read-through of Star Wars Episode VII at Pinewood Studios with (clockwise from right) Harrison Ford, Daisy Ridley, Carrie Fisher, Peter Mayhew, Producer Bryan Burk, Lucasfilm President and Producer Kathleen Kennedy, Domhnall Gleeson, Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamill, Andy Serkis, Oscar Isaac, John Boyega, Adam Driver and Writer Lawrence Kasdan. Copyright and Photo Credit: David James. Quote
hepcatpunk Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I predict all new style ships, with exception to the Millennium Falcon. If spaceships are anything like cars, then it'd seem they need to be replaced pretty often b/c they break down, technology gets better, new designs, they get blown up, etc. All the ships from prequels were technically replaced by all ships in OT. Not to mention, the MF was already a piece of junk in Episode 4....by Episode 7 it would be a minimum of 45-50 years old seeing as how they're saying Episode 7 takes place 35 years after ROTJ. I hope we get all new ships, and I hope no to the Millenium Falcon still being around.....that'd be dumb. Quote
mcortez Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 <snip> Bad special effects didn't help either (but I understand that it was pretty good for 1977) I guess I must be in the minority these days and showing my age. But to me the physical models that were used for all the ships, and the actual real sets and locations built for the OT are far better than the too clean, too shiny, way too smooth computer generated scenery and ships used in science fiction movies from about 2000 to 2010. Maybe it's because many of you have grown up with computer generated scenery in just about every movie and have spent countless hours playing computer games with computer generated content that it actually looks more real to you than Real [tm] physical models and sets... I will admit though, that some productions from the last couple of years have come a long way towards challenging and maybe even surpassing physical models and sets. Star Trek into the Darkness, Battlestar Galactica, Game of Thrones all being examples that I think are finally starting to look better -- but certainly not the sw prequels. 5 Quote
jaisonline Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 I guess I must be in the minority these days and showing my age. But to me the physical models that were used for all the ships, and the actual real sets and locations built for the OT are far better than the too clean, too shiny, way too smooth computer generated scenery and ships used in science fiction movies from about 2000 to 2010. no, many of us feel the same way. "insiders" are thinking Abrams will use less CGI than Lucas. let's hope some of those old models are still laying around Quote
Migration Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I guess I must be in the minority these days and showing my age. But to me the physical models that were used for all the ships, and the actual real sets and locations built for the OT are far better than the too clean, too shiny, way too smooth computer generated scenery and ships used in science fiction movies from about 2000 to 2010. I read an interview of Trey Parker and Matt Stone about the time that Team America came out and they said basically the same thing. There is just something really cool about knowing that a real physical object was used, they filmed real explosions for that trench on the Death Star in Episode IV, Trey and Matt destroyed a real model of the Eiffel Tower. I am saddened that all the clones are CGI, may as well watch a cartoon. Quote
El Guapo Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Please give the SSD a prominent role. The SSD that was in the OT was Vader's command ship the Executor and was destroyed when it crashed into the new Death Star. But, Han has a line "Don't get jittery kid, there's alot of command ships". So maybe there are some still part of the Imperial Navy. Quote
hollingsworthless Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 "insiders" are thinking Abrams will use less CGI than Lucas. I especially liked how he did this in many scenes in Star Trek. The engine room and the shipyard being two specific examples I can think of right now. Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 no, many of us feel the same way. "insiders" are thinking Abrams will use less CGI than Lucas. let's hope some of those old models are still laying around Anything that makes people run or walk long distance. If anyone notice, in prequel trilogy, any scenes that involves characters walking must stop after a few steps. They NEVER just walked and talked for more than a few steps. No matter how urgent the situation was. This was because those scenes were filmed in green room(s) which had limited space for moving around. Compare that to the new ST where the camera followed characters moving from room to room. Heck, compare those to episode 4 or 5. When the characters moved around in a hallway you can tell those were real hallways, not some green room Quote
fuzzy_bricks Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 The SSD that was in the OT was Vader's command ship the Executor and was destroyed when it crashed into the new Death Star. But, Han has a line "Don't get jittery kid, there's alot of command ships". So maybe there are some still part of the Imperial Navy. I also doubt we'll see one, my comment was mostly self serving. I watched this clip from the movie the other and I just want to make sure I have this right. The SSD's deflector shield is taken out by one Rebel ship and then another Rebel ship crashes into the bridge, which is pretty remarkable considering the thing is about 19km long, and then the thing loses control and flies into the Death Star? Did I see that right, cause that is pretty frickin' weak. Quote
Anakinisvader Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I also doubt we'll see one, my comment was mostly self serving. I watched this clip from the movie the other and I just want to make sure I have this right. The SSD's deflector shield is taken out by one Rebel ship and then another Rebel ship crashes into the bridge, which is pretty remarkable considering the thing is about 19km long, and then the thing loses control and flies into the Death Star? Did I see that right, cause that is pretty frickin' weak. Oh yeah, then how do you explain this: Quote
El Guapo Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I also doubt we'll see one, my comment was mostly self serving. I watched this clip from the movie the other and I just want to make sure I have this right. The SSD's deflector shield is taken out by one Rebel ship and then another Rebel ship crashes into the bridge, which is pretty remarkable considering the thing is about 19km long, and then the thing loses control and flies into the Death Star? Did I see that right, cause that is pretty frickin' weak. Ha ha...yes I always that that was a pretty lame way for that ship to go down, too. Not quite as bad as Randy Quaid flying into it, but pretty close. Quote
fuzzy_bricks Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Oh yeah, then how do you explain this:I've worked with enough architects to know that most would sacrifice the ultimate power in the universe for an aesthetic decision. Even one that's no bigger than a womp rat. Quote
Migration Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I also doubt we'll see one, my comment was mostly self serving. I watched this clip from the movie the other and I just want to make sure I have this right. The SSD's deflector shield is taken out by one Rebel ship and then another Rebel ship crashes into the bridge, which is pretty remarkable considering the thing is about 19km long, and then the thing loses control and flies into the Death Star? Did I see that right, cause that is pretty frickin' weak. Ackbar did have them concentrate all fire power on the SSD first ;) Quote
TheOrcKing Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 I guess I must be in the minority these days and showing my age. But to me the physical models that were used for all the ships, and the actual real sets and locations built for the OT are far better than the too clean, too shiny, way too smooth computer generated scenery and ships used in science fiction movies from about 2000 to 2010.We are getting better to where the digital realm is appearing closer to reality. Technology as a whole has certainly improved and keeps doing so but unfortunately anything computer generated still is relatively easy to pick out from everything that actually exists. The digital renders continue to be too clean and move smoother than the real life components of actors and props. Using physical models in the original Star Wars or Battlestar Galactica do look more believable just for the fact that they were constructed and filmed in reality; not some Blender3D model rendered on a computer and stuck into the scene.Now again, our technology has taken a lot of strides in advancements but it still looks fake. Just better looking. Quote
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