10218 - Pet Shop

[Lordoflego]

44 minutes ago, Yinchuan said:

I think the versatility of the PS being two separate buildingsmakes it a much more attractive buy for those looking for massive house rows, whereas the PC is a corner building with limited versatility (though I do like the style of it quite a bit). 

Based on this, I say PC goes first.

I agree with you on PS being attractive because its two separate buildings...

[fossilrock]

I bet all 5 buildings that are out right now are extremely profitable, and every one ranks in the top 15 of providing the best returns for the lego group.  I bet the Pet Shop is easily in the top 10 year after year for the company.  It's probably smarter for them to retire something like the simpsons theme, or oust other exclusives, and to keep the modular line running strong with many options for the buyers.  I know that since I started building these, i've got it in my plans to acquire all the available ones sooner rather than later.  And, i'm sure i'm not the only one that goes into a lego store, buys one, goes home builds it and realizes how awesome they are and then want to go get the others.  

Keeping a 5 to 6 year rotation going is probably smart on their behalf.  One Pet Shop more than likely makes them more profitable returns than many of the smaller sets.

[Follows Closely]

Set	Start	End							Retired	
ms	10/24/07	04/14/09		538	days	1.5	years		6.81	years ago
cc	10/24/07	12/06/09		774	days	2.1	years		6.16	years ago
gg	03/05/08	11/08/09		613	days	1.7	years		6.24	years ago
fb	09/12/09	12/30/13		1570	days	4.3	years		2.10	years ago
ge	03/03/10	10/15/14		1687	days	4.6	years		1.30	years ago
ps	05/12/11	02/03/16		1729	days	4.7	years		0.00	
th	03/03/12	10/04/14		945	days	2.6	years		1.33	years ago
pc	02/14/13	02/03/16		1085	days	3.0	years		0.00	
pr	01/01/14	02/03/16		764	days	2.1	years		0.00	
da	01/01/15	02/03/16		399	days	1.1	years		0.00	
bb	01/01/16	02/03/16		34	days	0.1	years		0.00	
										
					Avg:	2.8	years			

The pet shop has been available a month longer than any previous modular. It has been 15 months since a modular retirement. It needs to go away so I stop buying more.

[yang]

2 minutes ago, Follows Closely said:

Set	Start	End							Retired	
ms	10/24/07	04/14/09		538	days	1.5	years		6.81	years ago
cc	10/24/07	12/06/09		774	days	2.1	years		6.16	years ago
gg	03/05/08	11/08/09		613	days	1.7	years		6.24	years ago
fb	09/12/09	12/30/13		1570	days	4.3	years		2.10	years ago
ge	03/03/10	10/15/14		1687	days	4.6	years		1.30	years ago
ps	05/12/11	02/03/16		1729	days	4.7	years		0.00	
th	03/03/12	10/04/14		945	days	2.6	years		1.33	years ago
pc	02/14/13	02/03/16		1085	days	3.0	years		0.00	
pr	01/01/14	02/03/16		764	days	2.1	years		0.00	
da	01/01/15	02/03/16		399	days	1.1	years		0.00	
bb	01/01/16	02/03/16		34	days	0.1	years		0.00	
										
					Avg:	2.8	years			

The pet shop has been available a month longer than any previous modular. It has been 15 months since a modular retirement. It needs to go away so I stop buying more.

If everyone keeps buying more, it won't go away.

[Crustybeaver]

3 minutes ago, yang said:

If everyone keeps buying more, it won't go away.

This is so true. I'm assuming many will continue to stock up on Pet Shop with the assumption that it's next in line to go. However Palace Cinema has been in production for three years which is easily a considerable enough timeframe to be considered for retirement. It's also a corner building and following the release of the BB it wouldn't be unfeasable to see Lego want to retire a corner. Plus if you factor in Pet Shop outselling the Palace Cinema it's not easy predicting which will be the next modular to retire

[pete411]

49 minutes ago, Crustybeaver said:

This is so true. I'm assuming many will continue to stock up on Pet Shop with the assumption that it's next in line to go. However Palace Cinema has been in production for three years which is easily a considerable enough timeframe to be considered for retirement. It's also a corner building and following the release of the BB it wouldn't be unfeasable to see Lego want to retire a corner. Plus if you factor in Pet Shop outselling the Palace Cinema it's not easy predicting which will be the next modular to retire

But when Saturn is in alignment with Neptune and Mercury is in retrograde, Lord Xenu will rise up and smite every third and seventh Palace Cinema in your storage. Win Pet Shop. You can of course avoid this by scrawling 27 on each of your PC boxes, but most hordlings won't because doing that will affect resale value. 

[BearCrash]

22 minutes ago, pete411 said:

But when Saturn is in alignment with Neptune and Mercury is in retrograde, Lord Xenu will rise up and smite every third and seventh Palace Cinema in your storage. Win Pet Shop. You can of course avoid this by scrawling 27 on each of your PC boxes, but most hordlings won't because doing that will affect resale value. 

Rookie mistake. Obviously, that should be Raxacoricofallapatorius instead of Mercury.

[Yinchuan]

2 hours ago, Follows Closely said:

Set	Start	End							Retired	
ms	10/24/07	04/14/09		538	days	1.5	years		6.81	years ago
cc	10/24/07	12/06/09		774	days	2.1	years		6.16	years ago
gg	03/05/08	11/08/09		613	days	1.7	years		6.24	years ago
fb	09/12/09	12/30/13		1570	days	4.3	years		2.10	years ago
ge	03/03/10	10/15/14		1687	days	4.6	years		1.30	years ago
ps	05/12/11	02/03/16		1729	days	4.7	years		0.00	
th	03/03/12	10/04/14		945	days	2.6	years		1.33	years ago
pc	02/14/13	02/03/16		1085	days	3.0	years		0.00	
pr	01/01/14	02/03/16		764	days	2.1	years		0.00	
da	01/01/15	02/03/16		399	days	1.1	years		0.00	
bb	01/01/16	02/03/16		34	days	0.1	years		0.00	
										
					Avg:	2.8	years			

The pet shop has been available a month longer than any previous modular. It has been 15 months since a modular retirement. It needs to go away so I stop buying more.

This is really great info. Thank you for taking the time to do the research!

I would hope that the post-FB and GE behavior would help dissuade you from buying more PS!

One more quick question...what condition did your boxes arrive?

Edited February 3, 2016 by Yinchuan

[Alpinemaps]

2 hours ago, Follows Closely said:

The pet shop has been available a month longer than any previous modular. It has been 15 months since a modular retirement. It needs to go away so I stop buying more.

Let me ask this question - why do you keep buying more?  Why not set a goal at the outset, and once you've hit that goal, start investing in something else?  Or, why is PS so appetizing to you that you've decided to keep buying more instead of investing those funds elsewhere?

[Poly 30286]

I hate to stir the pot, but I wanted to share...

I have recently decided to make my own Green Grocer 10185. I had a spare PS, so I started by picking out the shared pieces between the two sets. The two have 573 common parts, plus I'm going the Sand Blue Grocer route for now because Sand Green is too rich for my blood. That adds another 207 usable substitute pieces to the mix. (I am also going to use the lamp post, and 1x2x3 windows to sub for the train style). My next project will be 10182 Cafe Corner. The scraps of the PS include 370 pieces that can be used towards 10182. With all that, I am getting 1150 pieces out of one PS to rebrick the modulars of days past. Average cost 13c per piece. 

Any thoughts?

[Yinchuan]

7 minutes ago, Poly 30286 said:

I hate to stir the pot, but I wanted to share...

I have recently decided to make my own Green Grocer 10185. I had a spare PS, so I started by picking out the shared pieces between the two sets. The two have 573 common parts, plus I'm going the Sand Blue Grocer route for now because Sand Green is too rich for my blood. That adds another 207 usable substitute pieces to the mix. (I am also going to use the lamp post, and 1x2x3 windows to sub for the train style). My next project will be 10182 Cafe Corner. The scraps of the PS include 370 pieces that can be used towards 10182. With all that, I am getting 1150 pieces out of one PS to rebrick the modulars of days past. Average cost 13c per piece. 

Any thoughts?

I am still searching for the question I think.

Edited February 6, 2016 by Yinchuan

[Guest brickcrazyhouse]

it sound promising as a quick jump start to piecing together the GG (SBG in your case). Would be interested in how much the rest of the pieces would run you. It's always the junkies that figure out the best way to get their our fix 

Edited February 6, 2016 by brickcrazyhouse

[Poly 30286]

4 minutes ago, Yinchuan said:

I am still searching for the question I think.

Allow me to clarify. Do you think that potential of using PS to rebrick 10185 and 10182 will add to the demand for this set?

[Lordoflego]

11 minutes ago, Poly 30286 said:

I hate to stir the pot, but I wanted to share...

I have recently decided to make my own Green Grocer 10185. I had a spare PS, so I started by picking out the shared pieces between the two sets. The two have 573 common parts, plus I'm going the Sand Blue Grocer route for now because Sand Green is too rich for my blood. That adds another 207 usable substitute pieces to the mix. (I am also going to use the lamp post, and 1x2x3 windows to sub for the train style). My next project will be 10182 Cafe Corner. The scraps of the PS include 370 pieces that can be used towards 10182. With all that, I am getting 1150 pieces out of one PS to rebrick the modulars of days past. Average cost 13c per piece. 

Any thoughts?

Wow, that's pretty resourceful  

[Roy vd M.]

I also don't like to stir the pot, but why is 'never' not an option in the poll?

Anyway as regards your question I'm not quite sure what you mean: what we think of splitting up a Pet Store to build the oldies? From an investor point of view I have no clue; for personal joy and adventure: sure it looks like a good idea if you like to have a large number of parts already at your service (saves time, energy and costs). I wouldn't exactly use the word 'rebrick' though, as you're apparently going to not make a Green Grocer but a Blue Grocer. 

Be sure to keep the box in good shape, you'll probably be able to sell it for a few bucks. 

[Roy vd M.]

7 minutes ago, Poly 30286 said:

Allow me to clarify. Do you think that potential of using PS to rebrick 10185 and 10182 will add to the demand for this set?

That would mean people would have to know about that potential. I don't think that will easily become the case unless something goes 'viral' within the Lego community. While it's a clever idea, as already mentioned by @Lordoflego, it's not a revolutionarily more easy way to get the classics, so personally I do not think it will have a noticeable impact on the demand for Pet Shop. It doesn't need extra demand by the way  

[Yinchuan]

6 minutes ago, Poly 30286 said:

Allow me to clarify. Do you think that potential of using PS to rebrick 10185 and 10182 will add to the demand for this set?

I think the demand for the PS is helped by its split structure, allows rows of houses. I don't think many people will have the time, money, or effort to do what you are proposing, though it would be fun to see how your blue grocer turns out.

[Poly 30286]

2 minutes ago, Roy vd M. said:

That would mean people would have to know about that potential. I don't think that will easily become the case unless something goes 'viral' within the Lego community. While it's a clever idea, as already mentioned by @Lordoflego, it's not a revolutionarily more easy way to get the classics, so personally I do not think it will have a noticeable impact on the demand for Pet Shop. It doesn't need extra demand by the way  

No. It doesn't. At least I have identified an alternate use for the millions(?) of hoarded sets out there

[legomark3]

On February 3, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Follows Closely said:

Set	Start	End							Retired	
ms	10/24/07	04/14/09		538	days	1.5	years		6.81	years ago
cc	10/24/07	12/06/09		774	days	2.1	years		6.16	years ago
gg	03/05/08	11/08/09		613	days	1.7	years		6.24	years ago
fb	09/12/09	12/30/13		1570	days	4.3	years		2.10	years ago
ge	03/03/10	10/15/14		1687	days	4.6	years		1.30	years ago
ps	05/12/11	02/03/16		1729	days	4.7	years		0.00	
th	03/03/12	10/04/14		945	days	2.6	years		1.33	years ago
pc	02/14/13	02/03/16		1085	days	3.0	years		0.00	
pr	01/01/14	02/03/16		764	days	2.1	years		0.00	
da	01/01/15	02/03/16		399	days	1.1	years		0.00	
bb	01/01/16	02/03/16		34	days	0.1	years		0.00	
										
					Avg:	2.8	years			

The pet shop has been available a month longer than any previous modular. It has been 15 months since a modular retirement. It needs to go away so I stop buying more.

Great info, thanks for the post!

[legomark3]

2 hours ago, Poly 30286 said:

I hate to stir the pot, but I wanted to share...

I have recently decided to make my own Green Grocer 10185. I had a spare PS, so I started by picking out the shared pieces between the two sets. The two have 573 common parts, plus I'm going the Sand Blue Grocer route for now because Sand Green is too rich for my blood. That adds another 207 usable substitute pieces to the mix. (I am also going to use the lamp post, and 1x2x3 windows to sub for the train style). My next project will be 10182 Cafe Corner. The scraps of the PS include 370 pieces that can be used towards 10182. With all that, I am getting 1150 pieces out of one PS to rebrick the modulars of days past. Average cost 13c per piece. 

Any thoughts?

That's great! For the Green Grocer did you use any other sets to fill in the remaining pieces or just got them separately? I have the modular bug now and do want to build out some of the old ones I don't have.

[Dr. Brick]

On January 8, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Yinchuan said:

I think the versatility of the PS being two separate buildingsmakes it a much more attractive buy for those looking for massive house rows, whereas the PC is a corner building with limited versatility (though I do like the style of it quite a bit). 

Based on this, I say PC goes first.

I agree and so I have invested in bith. And I don't really care which one goes first. Justbe sure to stay in front of he herd on these...

[marcandre]

7 hours ago, Poly 30286 said:

I hate to stir the pot, but I wanted to share...

I have recently decided to make my own Green Grocer 10185. I had a spare PS, so I started by picking out the shared pieces between the two sets. The two have 573 common parts, plus I'm going the Sand Blue Grocer route for now because Sand Green is too rich for my blood. That adds another 207 usable substitute pieces to the mix. (I am also going to use the lamp post, and 1x2x3 windows to sub for the train style). My next project will be 10182 Cafe Corner. The scraps of the PS include 370 pieces that can be used towards 10182. With all that, I am getting 1150 pieces out of one PS to rebrick the modulars of days past. Average cost 13c per piece. 

Any thoughts?

Sounds like a good project. Maybe document it, your experience might make a good blog post. 

[Phil B]

29 minutes ago, marcandre said:

Sounds like a good project. Maybe document it, your experience might make a good blog post. 

Yes please!

[ED-209]

Perhaps a new Poll is in order, since 62.18% voted for retirement in 2015. That ship has sailed.

[Yinchuan]

6 hours ago, Dr. Brick said:

I agree and so I have invested in bith. And I don't really care which one goes first. Justbe sure to stay in front of he herd on these...

I have reached my mark on both. I don't have issues with "set it and forget it" mentality. I know, especially with the increased market saturation these days, that I am going to be sitting on them forever anyways. I may as well buy in during promotions and maximize, and minimize stress, where possible.