fantomas007 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The Town Hall is retired as far as I know and I do not believe it will make a comeback with the exception of a sporadic and short lived in stock Its hard to say that it is retired, all what we see can be just a panic (started on this web page) + double vip points period + Xmas time. Town hall can be just sold out after this factors and can come back in normal calm time in January. TH can be retired, but now its about a panic, not about real signals of retiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4x18 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Its hard to say that it is retired, all what we see can be just a panic (started on this web page) + double vip points period + Xmas time. Town hall can be just sold out after this factors and can come back in normal calm time in January. TH can be retired, but now its about a panic, not about real signals of retiring. Hmmm, the set has been 'Sold Out' from LEGO Shop at Home EU for the last 2 weeks, it's gone from Amazon and several other retailers. True, it has done a few appearances but have been short lived. Look at the Tower of Orthanac, out of stock but you are still able to order it. I don't need a TLG CS rep to come and knock at my door and tell me that it is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Its hard to say that it is retired, all what we see can be just a panic (started on this web page) + double vip points period + Xmas time. Town hall can be just sold out after this factors and can come back in normal calm time in January. TH can be retired, but now its about a panic, not about real signals of retiring.I think the set was sold out everywhere before I mentioned anything. You can correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas007 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hmmm, the set has been 'Sold Out' from LEGO Shop at Home EU for the last 2 weeks, it's gone from Amazon and several other retailers. True, it has done a few appearances but have been short lived. Look at the Tower of Orthanac, out of stock but you are still able to order it. I don't need a TLG CS rep to come and knock at my door and tell me that it is gone. For me it is strange, that this panic is just about TH and not about PS, which is older modular - I can understand if TLC will end 2-3 modulars together (because there is many modulars in market), but dont understand why the retired modulars are not the ones which are oldest - so if TLC end **** + PS, its logic, also ****+PS+TH, but not ****+TH. It would be extremly out of logic. But PS is still available, just with late shipping date. Together with the fact that the discussion about possible end of PS was much smaller, it leads to my conclusion that we see a panic buy of TH and that the end of TH is not something normal and planned by TLC, just actual situation reflecting the panic buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I just got a PS for 135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4x18 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 For me it is strange, that this panic is just about TH and not about PS, which is older modular - I can understand if TLC will end 2-3 modulars together (because there is many modulars in market), but dont understand why the retired modulars are not the ones which are oldest - so if TLC end **** + PS, its logic, also ****+PS+TH, but not ****+TH. It would be extremly out of logic. But PS is still available, just with late shipping date. Together with the fact that the discussion about possible end of PS was much smaller, it leads to my conclusion that we see a panic buy of TH and that the end of TH is not something normal and planned by TLC, just actual situation reflecting the panic buy. I think that this is what Ed has talked about previously, about the incoming chaos. Resellers had it as a thumb rule that modulars should retire fifo - first in, fiirst out -, but my money is on the assumption that Lego is changing this to blow resellers away, no longer ordered retirement but 'randomnized' retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neosphinx Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 It appears to be a re rel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Problem is selling abroad is not viable due to the transport costs so it is just the local market for me. If they are not sold out that means there is not a high demand at that Price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas007 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I think that this is what Ed has talked about previously, about the incoming chaos. Resellers had it as a thumb rule that modulars should retire fifo - first in, fiirst out -, but my money is on the assumption that Lego is changing this to blow resellers away, no longer ordered retirement but 'randomnized' retirement. I dont think that TLC is making its strategy considering the resellers. It would be funny to see that TLC is finishing some sets just to confuse the resellers. TLC is producing the sets based on their popularity and a long term strategy. We are not important for TLC. TLC is a gigant company with huge profits and resellers are just parasites, which want to participate on this business, but are just eating the crumbs. If TLC wants to destroy the resellers, there are many other stronger instruments, such as reeditions, fake "retired" notices after 1-2 years from the release date and resurrection of the set after 1 year, etc. But not finishing some sets before older sets. If TH ends this year and PS next year, the only reason is a bad selling numbers for TLC compared to other modulars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biniou Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 so why the f*ck is it then still on your site @retail. Indeed crappy website and also ignorant staff. Hmmmm maybe they made an update in their website to create a section for the detective agency (set still invisible though, if you're not the webmaster) and an old modular (the fire brigade) re-appeared by accident (because the webmaster used old datas of the modulars section of the website's structure). (just another random guess, but who knows, I may be right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdroid Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 For me it is strange, that this panic is just about TH and not about PS, which is older modular - I can understand if TLC will end 2-3 modulars together (because there is many modulars in market), but dont understand why the retired modulars are not the ones which are oldest - so if TLC end **** + PS, its logic, also ****+PS+TH, but not ****+TH. It would be extremly out of logic. But PS is still available, just with late shipping date. Together with the fact that the discussion about possible end of PS was much smaller, it leads to my conclusion that we see a panic buy of TH and that the end of TH is not something normal and planned by TLC, just actual situation reflecting the panic buy. Do you know for a fact that LEGO has produced one PS after the last produced TH? Why should the available stock disappear at the same time? Nobody can control how fast that happens. Well, you could with promotions, retiring soon tags and in some cases we have seen that even with just rumors, but the first two, which can be controlled by LEGO or official resellers, have not been used for this modulars. You admit ****, PS, TH could retire together. Why don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildemar Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 It was "available now" for over 4 hours until it was "call to check..." briefly and now "sold out" again. That's why I think it's safe to say that all backorders will be fulfilled. </sarcasm> Shouldn't have made fun of it - order from Oct 29 got cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4x18 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I dont think that TLC is making its strategy considering the resellers. It would be funny to see that TLC is finishing some sets just to confuse the resellers. TLC is producing the sets based on their popularity and a long term strategy. We are not important for TLC. TLC is a gigant company with huge profits and resellers are just parasites, which want to participate on this business, but are just eating the crumbs. If TLC wants to destroy the resellers, there are many other stronger instruments, such as reeditions, fake "retired" notices after 1-2 years from the release date and resurrection of the set after 1 year, etc. But not finishing some sets before older sets. If TH ends this year and PS next year, the only reason is a bad selling numbers for TLC compared to other modulars. We are not important to TLG? You didn't see the fuzz resellers caused when 21110 was dried up within weeks of its release, did you? Randomnizing retirement is a way for them to screw up investing strategies. Random = chaos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locutus001 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Shouldn't have made fun of it - order from Oct 29 got cancelled. ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas007 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 We are not important to TLG? You didn't see the fuzz resellers caused when 21110 was dried up within weeks of its release, did you? Randomnizing retirement is a way for them to screw up investing strategies. Random = chaos. One thing is when resellers speed-up the sale of some set, other thing is finishing with some set in order to make chaos for resellers - its sounds strange. To be TLC, I would rather produce more TH after this panic and sell this set 2 years more with normal production numbers - and be laughing that resellers just help increasing my profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildemar Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Shouldn't have made fun of it - order from Oct 29 got cancelled. Now "Call to check product availability" - I think right now LEGO is just mocking me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neosphinx Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Now "Call to check product availability" - I think right now LEGO is just mocking me. Everything is not so awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildemar Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 NOPE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neosphinx Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 One thing is when resellers speed-up the sale of some set, other thing is finishing with some set in order to make chaos for resellers - its sounds strange. To be TLC, I would rather produce more TH after this panic and sell this set 2 years more with normal production numbers - and be laughing that resellers just help increasing my profit. Or they can use the capacity freed up by retiring TH to make eg. some lucrative selling friends sets for China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM123 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Yeah and if you call them: 'No sorry, no stock.. I apologize, it is totally done so we have to cancel your order' blablabla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michalwroc Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 My order from 29 oct just got cancelled after being a week under "Please call CS" status..:/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM123 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) My order from 29 oct just got cancelled after being a week under "Please call CS" status..:/ Yes, mine too. I pulled in 10 orders TH.. this because earlier orders were cancelled, so every time it appeared I ordered some. Total damage: Everything cancelled except 3 orders of 1 piece that show the status 'In Warehouse'. Furthermore, I'm really worried about PS too. Here in Holland it's almost everywhere disappeared. Only a few online retailers have them still in stock.. Hope there will be time to acquire more of them at a discount before it's too late :-( Edited November 6, 2014 by JM123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildemar Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 So there is still hope for later orders. Man, I should have ordered more when it was "available now" from 1:50 - 5:06 a.m. today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM123 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) TH available @ Intertoys.nl!!!, grab what you can brickpicker friends Here's the link: http://www.intertoys.nl/speelgoed/lego-10224-lego-town-hall-591828.html?st=SP&SearchQuery=10224 44 pieces left! Edited November 6, 2014 by JM123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 For me it is strange, that this panic is just about TH and not about PS, which is older modular - I can understand if TLC will end 2-3 modulars together (because there is many modulars in market), but dont understand why the retired modulars are not the ones which are oldest - so if TLC end GH + PS, its logic, also GH+PS+TH, but not GH+TH. It would be extremly out of logic. But PS is still available, just with late shipping date. Together with the fact that the discussion about possible end of PS was much smaller, it leads to my conclusion that we see a panic buy of TH and that the end of TH is not something normal and planned by TLC, just actual situation reflecting the panic buy. But as I stated to you earlier, the Town Hall was gone from all US retailers before anyone even noticed. Read back in the thread. Panic buying didn't sell this set out. Resellers buying up a few remaining sets over the past month or so has nothing to do with the initial "Sold Out" notation. This set flew under the radar for months. No More Monkeys pointed out originally that the set was reduced to a 2 purchase limit and some people started to notice... Posted 17 September 2014 - 03:34 PM This is limit 2 at LEGO Shop at Home. PetShop and Palace Cinema are at limit 5. No way Townhall could retire before Pet Shop, right? It wasn't until weeks later and after the fact it was sold out everywhere that I made this comment... Posted 02 October 2014 - 01:34 PM Very soon, this will be the busiest thread on the site. The set was history in the US at that point IMO...and many never did and still don't believe it. Oh well, to each his own. Can LEGO continue production of this set. Sure. But I highly doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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