Complaint Thread

[joch29]

23 minutes ago, KvHulk said:

I had my first root canal last year. I was stressed. Everything I knew about root canals was from other people, tv, movies, etc...

It was a breeze. I've had cleanings and gum treatments that were more uncomfortable.

Hopefully all will go smooth. Don't stress.

wait until you need a dental implant..

 

Edited May 13, 2021 by joch29

[Shortbus311]

My first root canal was on a "hot tooth" that wouldn't go numb because the pain was so severe. They tried novocaine twice and also a shot of marcaine, nothing worked (this was Navy dental so they weren't about to give me any kind of gas).

Eventually a male assistant stood above my head and put me in a headlock to hold me steady while the dentist drilled in without it being numb. Worst pain I have ever felt, and I have been unfortunate enough to pass 4 kidney stones.

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[Darth_Raichu]

The one that I had was not that bad. The numbing drug worked and all I felt was dull sensation of people working on my jaw bone.  It was weird as I was awake, my mouth was forced open, and I could see the drills etc around me.

[KvHulk]

2 hours ago, joch29 said:

wait until you need a dental implant..

 

Yeah, I won't be getting any implants.

2 hours ago, Shortbus311 said:

My first root canal was on a "hot tooth" that wouldn't go numb because the pain was so severe. They tried novocaine twice and also a shot of marcaine, nothing worked (this was Navy dental so they weren't about to give me any kind of gas).

Eventually a male assistant stood above my head and put me in a headlock to hold me steady while the dentist drilled in without it being numb. Worst pain I have ever felt, and I have been unfortunate enough to pass 4 kidney stones.

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Might as well tell him it's gonna be the worse experience of his life.

1 hour ago, Darth_Raichu said:

The one that I had was not that bad. The numbing drug worked and all I felt was dull sensation of people working on my jaw bone.  It was weird as I was awake, my mouth was forced open, and I could see the drills etc around me.

Pretty much my experience. 

[Mark Twain]

My first root canal was on a "hot tooth" that wouldn't go numb because the pain was so severe. They tried novocaine twice and also a shot of marcaine, nothing worked (this was Navy dental so they weren't about to give me any kind of gas).

Eventually a male assistant stood above my head and put me in a headlock to hold me steady while the dentist drilled in without it being numb. Worst pain I have ever felt, and I have been unfortunate enough to pass 4 kidney stones.

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Jeez, my dad served on the USS Constellation in 1968 in the Gulf of Tonkin when the tail rotor separated on a chopper he was on and he crashed a few miles from the ship. He blacked out and awoke with a knot on his head and four missing wisdom teeth. Navy dentists are something else.


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[Mark Twain]

I had my first root canal last year. I was stressed. Everything I knew about root canals was from other people, tv, movies, etc...

It was a breeze. I've had cleanings and gum treatments that were more uncomfortable.

Hopefully all will go smooth. Don't stress.

Thanks. I’ve had one filling my entire life and that was for a precavity 16 years ago. It popped last November and the dentist really went to town enlarging the hole for the new filling. It’s never been right since then and when I went in he basically implied that the heat of the drill caused an infection/ nerve damage. I’ve been basically really irritable over the past 6 months because it never stops hurting.


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[redghostx]

F'ers who start fires.

We had a local boardwalk closed for 6 months because someone set fire to a wooden part of it, releasing all sorts of toxic chemicals.

It reopened about five weeks ago and I walked by today with my son and saw this:

Obviously someone started a fire (accidental or deliberate) and the little playground is closed. At least everything else is ok

I guess it was nice while it lasted.

Yay LEGO!

[Bold-Arrow]

18 minutes ago, redghostx said:

F'ers who start fires.

We had a local boardwalk closed for 6 months because someone set fire to a wooden part of it, releasing all sorts of toxic chemicals.

It reopened about five weeks ago and I walked by today with my son and saw this:

Obviously someone started a fire (accidental or deliberate) and the little playground is closed. At least everything else is ok

I guess it was nice while it lasted.

Yay LEGO!
 

Everyone knows that Ryan started the fire 

[$20 on joe vs dan]

3 hours ago, Mark Twain said:

Thanks. I’ve had one filling my entire life and that was for a precavity 16 years ago. It popped last November and the dentist really went to town enlarging the hole for the new filling. It’s never been right since then and when I went in he basically implied that the heat of the drill caused an infection/ nerve damage. I’ve been basically really irritable over the past 6 months because it never stops hurting.


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Are you sure you want to go back to this guy?

Altho it's typically more expensive like 1.5-2x, it may or may not be more expensive to go to a specialist if the dentist is over-charging.

About half of all malpractice suits are root canal related...that kinda tells you how often they have issues.  The reason is that it's hard to get all of the root out. The actual act is to use a file and basically fish out the root. Thinking cleaning out a clogged drain using a pipe cleaner. My root actually made a U-shape and the Endo specialist said it was the first time he saw that.  The benefit of a specialist; other than obviously knowing their shiz really well...they do like 2-4 everyday whereas a general practitioner does maybe 1-2 a month...specialist have up-to-date specialized equipment such as a microscope (the standard now among endodontist); a general dentist would never invest in such a specialized machine. It enables them to see the canal much better (obviously).

[MarleyMoose]

10 hours ago, redghostx said:

Obviously someone started a fire (accidental or deliberate) and the little playground is closed. At least everything else is ok

I guess it was nice while it lasted.

Yay LEGO!
 

 

[$20 on joe vs dan]

Masks vs No mask

just like the painful partisan approach this country had to masking...the unmasking will likely be just as painful

I think Hawaii and the varying opinion of its governor and Lt. governor highlights the key issue:

Governor: without proof of vaccinations, how will people know if the unmasked are vaccinated vs nonvaccinated anti-maskers?

Lt Governor: The science (and CDC) says masks are not needed for the vaccinated.

I guess it was inevitable that health officials have now given up on the goal of herd immunity given the vaccine reluctance...Masks will start going away...the pro-science/public health folks go on with their lives mask-free...the anti-science/pubic health folks will stop "the charade" and burn their masks (i.e., "freedom killers")...AND the virus will maintain its hold in our society in various pockets....waiting to come back scarier

[BillyBricks]

27 minutes ago, $20 on joe vs dan said:

Masks vs No mask

just like the painful partisan approach this country had to masking...the unmasking will likely be just as painful

I think Hawaii and the varying opinion of its governor and Lt. governor highlights the key issue:

Governor: without proof of vaccinations, how will people know if the unmasked are vaccinated vs nonvaccinated anti-maskers?

Lt Governor: The science (and CDC) says masks are not needed for the vaccinated.

I guess it was inevitable that health officials have now given up on the goal of herd immunity given the vaccine reluctance...Masks will start going away...the pro-science/public health folks go on with their lives mask-free...the anti-science/pubic health folks will stop "the charade" and burn their masks (i.e., "freedom killers")...AND the virus will maintain its hold in our society in various pockets....waiting to come back scarier

After this announcement was made, I saw variations of "Well, I guess that means I'm vaccinated now" across different social media platforms. I have not understood this whole reluctance to put a piece of cloth over part of your face for a few hours a day. Why is this the hill that people are choosing to (maybe literally) die on?

[Phil B]

1 hour ago, $20 on joe vs dan said:

Masks vs No mask

just like the painful partisan approach this country had to masking...the unmasking will likely be just as painful

I think Hawaii and the varying opinion of its governor and Lt. governor highlights the key issue:

Governor: without proof of vaccinations, how will people know if the unmasked are vaccinated vs nonvaccinated anti-maskers?

Lt Governor: The science (and CDC) says masks are not needed for the vaccinated.

I guess it was inevitable that health officials have now given up on the goal of herd immunity given the vaccine reluctance...Masks will start going away...the pro-science/public health folks go on with their lives mask-free...the anti-science/pubic health folks will stop "the charade" and burn their masks (i.e., "freedom killers")...AND the virus will maintain its hold in our society in various pockets....waiting to come back scarier

My response has been that I am now going to be even more vigilant in keeping 6ft distance and double-masking. The stupidest communication ever by the CDC. SMH.

[$20 on joe vs dan]

16 minutes ago, Phil B said:

My response has been that I am now going to be even more vigilant in keeping 6ft distance and double-masking. The stupidest communication ever by the CDC. SMH.

IDK....CDC is damned if they do, damned if they don't

Early on CDC didn't do enough and always seemed behind; causing politicians to set policies based on suspect info and/or political agendas 

Here, the CDC is is trying to be more forthcoming but ends up causing politicians to make inconsistent policies

What's missing is a sociology element to bridge the science and society...it's weird..you give 5 people facts:

3 will do what makes sense

2 will do the opposite

1 won't believe it

[exciter1]

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/taping-of-bill-mahers-hbo-show-canceled-after-hosts-positive-coronavirus-test/

 

[Mark Twain]

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/taping-of-bill-mahers-hbo-show-canceled-after-hosts-positive-coronavirus-test/
 

Most of the data currently says that if you test positive while being fully vaccinated your chances of developing severe symptoms are low and likewise your ability to transmit is also low. Again, this is just the data they have on hand that is only about 100+ days old so it’s very possible things could change.


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[Mathew]

2 hours ago, Phil B said:

My response has been that I am now going to be even more vigilant in keeping 6ft distance and double-masking. The stupidest communication ever by the CDC. SMH.

Did you get your vax?  If so then why would you consider going even more extreme?  People are strange. 

[Phil B]

16 minutes ago, Mathew said:

Did you get your vax?  If so then why would you consider going even more extreme?  People are strange. 

My wife and I are fully vaxxed. Kids got their first shots yesterday as well. 

By dropping the incentive to get vaccinated and take precautions before you are, the CDC effectively creates a pool of people in whom the virus can go rampant, create more lethal/viral/aggressive mutations etc., with no safeguards in place to prevent the spread. Which will come back to bite all of us when the vaccine's firewalls get breached.

The best method to prevent this spread is to have those who could harbor it wear masks and stay 6ft away. Since the CDC now allows these people to not wear a mask, the best I can do to protect myself and my family is to keep wearing my masks (I always double-mask) and keep distance. I know my mask wearing is only part effective (the way to stop the spread is to have the infected wear masks) but it is better than nothing.

[Bricklectic]

someone on sellercentral posted a funny customer email they got:

 

[exracer327]

18 minutes ago, Phil B said:

By dropping the incentive to get vaccinated and take precautions before you are, the CDC effectively creates a pool of people in whom the virus can go rampant, create more lethal/viral/aggressive mutations etc., with no safeguards in place to prevent the spread. Which will come back to bite all of us when the vaccine's firewalls get breached.

I might have missed something with yesterday's CDC announcement.  I thought only vaccinated people were allowed to remove their masks.  Are you suggesting the CDC told all people they could drop the mask?  That was not what I heard and I watched the  CDC announcement and saw at least two interviews with the head of the CDC.  I also wouldn't put it past the CDC to contradict itself even within the same day.

Also, re: Bill Maher - my understanding is the vaccinated can still contract covid-19, but its effect should be much less likely to be harmful and less likely to spread from those vaccinated.  So that isn't as alarming to me as what the headline makes it sound.

[dennugsmello]

23 minutes ago, Phil B said:

the CDC effectively creates a pool of people in whom the virus can go rampant, create more lethal/viral/aggressive mutations etc.

This is not a fact. 

Most likely, with a smaller and more spread out pool of people who can catch and pass the virus the virus must mutate into a less lethal version of itself to survive. More contagious? Probably. More lethal. Not according to the traditional pattern of virus mutations.  

Hopefully, over time, the virus will naturally mutate into a relatively harmless cold strain and eliminate the need for updated vaccines. 

[lazuli16]

7 minutes ago, exracer327 said:

I might have missed something with yesterday's CDC announcement.  I thought only vaccinated people were allowed to remove their masks.  Are you suggesting the CDC told all people they could drop the mask?  That was not what I heard and I watched the  CDC announcement and saw at least two interviews with the head of the CDC.  I also wouldn't put it past the CDC to contradict itself even within the same day.

Also, re: Bill Maher - my understanding is the vaccinated can still contract covid-19, but its effect should be much less likely to be harmful and less likely to spread from those vaccinated.  So that isn't as alarming to me as what the headline makes it sound.

Anti-maskers and the vaccinated will all look the same now and so will the anti-vaxers/pro-mask and pro-vaxers/pro-mask people; so basically it will be harder to judge people now, so I guess that's a good thing.  

[Phil B]

28 minutes ago, exracer327 said:

I might have missed something with yesterday's CDC announcement.  I thought only vaccinated people were allowed to remove their masks.  Are you suggesting the CDC told all people they could drop the mask?  That was not what I heard and I watched the  CDC announcement and saw at least two interviews with the head of the CDC.  I also wouldn't put it past the CDC to contradict itself even within the same day.

Also, re: Bill Maher - my understanding is the vaccinated can still contract covid-19, but its effect should be much less likely to be harmful and less likely to spread from those vaccinated.  So that isn't as alarming to me as what the headline makes it sound.

Since there is no way people can be forced to disclose their vaccination status, anyone can take off their mask. The intent of the CDC statements are good (create an incentive for people to get vaccinated) in practice it doesn't work.

[fuzzy_bricks]

1 hour ago, Phil B said:

My wife and I are fully vaxxed. Kids got their first shots yesterday as well. 

By dropping the incentive to get vaccinated and take precautions before you are, the CDC effectively creates a pool of people in whom the virus can go rampant, create more lethal/viral/aggressive mutations etc., with no safeguards in place to prevent the spread. Which will come back to bite all of us when the vaccine's firewalls get breached.

The best method to prevent this spread is to have those who could harbor it wear masks and stay 6ft away. Since the CDC now allows these people to not wear a mask, the best I can do to protect myself and my family is to keep wearing my masks (I always double-mask) and keep distance. I know my mask wearing is only part effective (the way to stop the spread is to have the infected wear masks) but it is better than nothing.

Have you considered triple masking?

56 minutes ago, lazuli16 said:

Anti-maskers and the vaccinated will all look the same now and so will the anti-vaxers/pro-mask and pro-vaxers/pro-mask people; so basically it will be harder to judge people now, so I guess that's a good thing.  

If only we had stars on our bellies to tell each other apart.

[oneknightr]

I felt the CDC's announcement yesterday was premature. In any case, we'll still be wearing masks wherever we go like we've always been unless we know for sure the people we are hanging out with are vaccinated. We've come this far, and I'm not taking any unnecessary chances yet. 

My 13yo daughter is going to get her first shot on Sunday, and we're hoping our 8yo son can be eligible to get his soon.