jaisonline Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 With the MTT as an example, LEGO appears to be moving towards smaller, more affordable sets. This is bad for the series collector and fan, but better for kids. I don't really have a problem with them doing this, because exact copies of previous sets aren't much fun, and the 2007 was as close to perfect as they'll get. The MTT does look suspicious for not having a piece count though. part of the problem is that many (not all) non-exclusive sets are priced higher than older versions w/ less elements and / or smaller sized. 1 Quote
Noodlenut Posted May 29, 2014 Author Posted May 29, 2014 The MTT does look suspicious for not having a piece count though. European style box. These are usually seen before a set is released. Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 part of the problem is that many (not all) non-exclusive sets are priced higher than older versions w/ less elements and / or smaller sized. Isn't that the affect of inflation ? So, should LEGO just increase price to offset the increased cost of moldings, materials, and labors to create similar sized sets today ? Quote
jaisonline Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Isn't that the affect of inflation ? So, should LEGO just increase price to offset the increased cost of moldings, materials, and labors to create similar sized sets today ? yes and no. recent set price increase (since the sail barge) are usually higher than the inflation rate. granted the minifigs are usually far better in recent sets. since smaller elements can skew element counts, set weight should be considered along with # of minifigs. 3 random non-exclusive examples that i had data for (missing set weight though): 6211 (ISD) retailed for $99.99 in 2008. that amount is about $110.10 today The smaller sized 75055 will retail for $129.00. 75055 = 6 figs vs. 9 = 6211. 6210 (Sail Barge) retailed for $74.99 in 2007. that amount is about $85.74 today. The smaller sized 75020 retails for $119.00 plus another $24.99 for the 9496 Desert Skiff set. 75020 + 9496 = 10 figs vs. 8 = 6210. 8129 (AT-AT) retailed for $109.99 in 2011 . that amount is about $115.92 today The smaller sized 75054 will retail for $109.99. 75054 = 5 figs vs. 8 = 8129. http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl Quote
jnd2k3 Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 This is not photoshoped. If it was, it would be the first time I saw someone go to that much work just to fool everybody. Also, as further evidence, a picture was taken of a 2014 Star Wars instruction booklet that included minifigures from this set. It is possible that they have stopped doing this in 2014 just for different printing. Qui Gon and Obi Wan are rather old minifigures, and these are just remakes The picture of the 'box' on the shelf is most certainly photoshopped. If it were actually in the store it would have, as I mentioned before, a piece count, age range, etc. etc. I am respectfully going to disagree with the different printing not being noted as new. See: Republic AV cannon's Plo Koon and Coruscant Police Gunship's Anakin. For Plo it's just a modified torso printing and for Anakin the color of the pouch on his belt is slightly different from the old one that can be found in the Sith Nightspeeder set and nothing else. It's fake. The figures are definitely not, and I was never disputing that. Just the box. The MTT may well be the set, too, but that remains to be seen. Trust me, that box is photoshopped. Don't underestimate the power of an internet troll with nothing better to do than rile up AFOLs. Quote
Fcbarcelona101 Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 European boxes usually don't have all the extra info. That we get here in the US (piece count, etc)http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=89612 Sent from my iPhone using Brickpicker Quote
jaisonline Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 European boxes usually don't have all the extra info. That we get here in the US (piece count, etc)http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=89612 Sent from my iPhone using Brickpicker Yeah, the poster was told that. He / she still thinks it is photoshopped. Not sure why anyone would photoshop this :) Quote
Stevenplays Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Yeah, the poster was told that. He / she still thinks it is photoshopped. Not sure why anyone would photoshop this Might be another BP troll. 1 Quote
Anakinisvader Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 yes and no. recent set price increase (since the sail barge) are usually higher than the inflation rate. granted the minifigs are usually far better in recent sets. since smaller elements can skew element counts, set weight should be considered along with # of minifigs. 3 random non-exclusive examples that i had data for (missing set weight though): 6211 (ISD) retailed for $99.99 in 2008. that amount is about $110.10 today The smaller sized 75055 will retail for $129.00. 75055 = 6 figs vs. 9 = 6211. 6210 (Sail Barge) retailed for $74.99 in 2007. that amount is about $85.74 today. The smaller sized 75020 retails for $119.00 plus another $24.99 for the 9496 Desert Skiff set. 75020 + 9496 = 10 figs vs. 8 = 6210. 8129 (AT-AT) retailed for $109.99 in 2011 . that amount is about $115.92 today The smaller sized 75054 will retail for $109.99. 75054 = 5 figs vs. 8 = 8129. http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl We really should just be thankful that LEGO hasn't decided to increase the prices more. They could if they wanted to and people would still buy. Quote
Ed Mack Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 I think people need to realize the trend in retail and marketing today is to smaller and less. Companies like to promote "more this" and "bigger that," but in reality, the amount of product customers receive is less than 5 years ago...for the same price. From toilet paper to water bottles, packaging engineers are using clever methods to deceive customers. Why should LEGO be any different? If a LEGO set of today has 1000 pieces, are those pieces the same size and weight compared to a similar sized set from 5 years ago, that had 1000 pieces and was priced the same? Good question. Sent from my iPhone using Brickpicker 2 Quote
No More Monkeys Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Sorry to interrupt, but if anyone wants 2 MF for $80 each, here is your chance (have to buy two) 1 Quote
jaisonline Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Sorry to interrupt, but if anyone wants 2 MF for $80 each, here is your chance (have to buy two) awesome share. thanks for the heads up. i'm sure ed and jeff would agree that thread interruptions / going off topic like yours is 100% allowed for deals like this. Quote
jnd2k3 Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 European boxes usually don't have all the extra info. That we get here in the US (piece count, etc)http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=89612 Sent from my iPhone using Brickpicker Thanks, I was not aware of the differences in boxes! 1 Quote
TheOrcKing Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Brickset review by CapnRex101 Number: 75052 Name: Mos Eisley Cantina Pieces: 616 Minifigures: 8 + Dewback Retail: $69.99 Quote
jal4u2c Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Any ideas what 75047 and 75057 will be? 75060 has all but been officially confirmed to be UCS Slave 1. Quote
Legbrick Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Are the little miniature Star Wars any good? I saw some clearance. Like 8.00 or so. Not a big discount. Quote
Achilles Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 The Microfighters? Seems weird they'd be clearanced already... Quote
exciter1 Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Brickset review by CapnRex101Number: 75052 Name: Mos Eisley Cantina Pieces: 616 Minifigures: 8 + Dewback Retail: $69.99 Nice, it looks like you get 3 Modal Nodes. Quote
Legbrick Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Yea Microfighters. Clearanced at Meijers. Only one set i think. I didn't go thru them. Like 2.00 off isn't much of a clearance. Just not sure if they are worthy investments? Quote
Achilles Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 At anything less than a 50% discount, I am skeptical these will be solid investments. I compare them to the Planets series, and while the X-Wing and Tie have done well, the rest have been very underwhelming. The fact that there is a Star Destroyer/X-Wing/Tie/Mil Falcon - Those may perform OK. But I think $8 is too high. Quote
Stevenplays Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Any ideas what 75047 and 75057 will be? 75060 has all but been officially confirmed to be UCS Slave 1. I'm guessing retailer exclusives, similar to the new MTT. I'm going to out on a limb and say they are either Tatooine or Corusant sets. Quote
Anakinisvader Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Nice, it looks like you get 3 Modal Nodes. I guess the 4th was in the john and they forgot to put him in the set. 1 Quote
TheOrcKing Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 A double review for these Star Wars - Rebels sets. Number: 75048 Name: The Phantom Pieces: 234 Minifigures: 1 + Astromech Droid Retail: $24.99 Number: 75053 Name: The Ghost Pieces: 929 Minifigures: 4 Retail: $89.99 Quote
exciter1 Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 I guess the 4th was in the john and they forgot to put him in the set. I'll probably have 2 left over, since I'll be putting two of these together. Those 2 can panhandle with a banjo out front. Quote
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