Are fruitcakes running rampant on eBay lately? Selling, buying, listing, feedback, etc...

[Guest TabbyBoy]

I can't help thinking that 99% of watchers are competitors. Several times I've had over 100 watchers for an item for it not to sell.

[oneknightr]

Sold a Brickheadz movie set yesterday with free shipping and an international buyer bought it using eBay's GSP feature. I got an email that said "+ $44.12 shipping". Is that how much the buyer is paying for shipping? Wow! eBay is gouging international buyers through their GSP. 

 

[SLL]

8 minutes ago, oneknightr said:

Sold a Brickheadz movie set yesterday with free shipping and an international buyer bought it using eBay's GSP feature. I got an email that said "+ $44.12 shipping". Is that how much the buyer is paying for shipping? Wow! eBay is gouging international buyers through their GSP. 

 

I believe so cause it also includes the custom fee/tax if there is any.

[stackables]

I just got this interesting offer.  I have a bin at $14 with best offer. I get an offer for $15 and was like wow, this person much be an idiot or scamming me.  I get ready to quickly accept but read the message the buyer added "you pay shipping".  Yeah No! 

[oneknightr]

12 minutes ago, stackables said:

I just got this interesting offer.  I have a bin at $14 with best offer. I get an offer for $15 and was like wow, this person much be an idiot or scamming me.  I get ready to quickly accept but read the message the buyer added "you pay shipping".  Yeah No! 

That's a first. I've never heard of that before. He was trying to be slick and hope you wouldn't read the message.

[Val-E]

Would it fly had he accepted, though? ebay would automatically have added the shipping cost to the price as per best offer policy.

Edited February 20, 2019 by Val-E

[lodibricks]

39 minutes ago, stackables said:

I just got this interesting offer.  I have a bin at $14 with best offer. I get an offer for $15 and was like wow, this person much be an idiot or scamming me.  I get ready to quickly accept but read the message the buyer added "you pay shipping".  Yeah No! 

Almost sounds generous. ? I usually get something more like "$7 shipped" and that's w/o Best Offer enabled.

[KShine]

This does happen on occasion - Usually the buyer is looking for a way to communicate an offer to you, after their other offers had failed (for being below the auto-decline amount).

[$20 on joe vs dan]

8 hours ago, KShine said:

This does happen on occasion - Usually the buyer is looking for a way to communicate an offer to you, after their other offers had failed (for being below the auto-decline amount).

does the buyer get notified when his offer is below the auto-decline amount?

 

[Val-E]

1 hour ago, $20 on joe vs dan said:

does the buyer get notified when his offer is below the auto-decline amount?

 

Yes, they get a Dear John message.

[Mark Twain]

The best offer feature is for list price only. Shipping never part of the negotiation. This is eBay’s policy and I’ve had to copy and paste it several times for people who just don’t get it.


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[stackables]

14 hours ago, KShine said:

This does happen on occasion - Usually the buyer is looking for a way to communicate an offer to you, after their other offers had failed (for being below the auto-decline amount).

Probably be easier to just message me with a question then submit an offer.  If I accepted the amount, would the buyer be required to pay the best offer and shipping?  Obviously, they wouldn't but making a best offer doesn't include shipping.

[Val-E]

7 minutes ago, stackables said:

Probably be easier to just message me with a question then submit an offer.  If I accepted the amount, would the buyer be required to pay the best offer and shipping?  Obviously, they wouldn't but making a best offer doesn't include shipping.

Yes, they would but would they actually pay up?

[KShine]

6 hours ago, $20 on joe vs dan said:

does the buyer get notified when his offer is below the auto-decline amount?

They get an immediate response of not accepted, try again. Some buyers feel like they can say "are you sure you don't want to accept my offer?", or  want to state that "It isn't worth what you are asking for", others just want to try to beg, and plead "Please, it's for the orphans, or the handicapped vets, or we just had a house fire and all my babies LEGO were destroyed.

17 minutes ago, stackables said:

Probably be easier to just message me with a question then submit an offer.  If I accepted the amount, would the buyer be required to pay the best offer and shipping?  Obviously, they wouldn't but making a best offer doesn't include shipping.

Likely yes, but at that point you would have such a toxic transaction - that there would be no way that it would end well.

You can not force a buyer (or seller) to complete a transaction. Yes, they may get a ding on their account, but trying to force a transaction will not end well.

A seller is fairly helpless, so always proceed with some caution (and read the offers so it doesn't happen). 

[$20 on joe vs dan]

7 hours ago, Mark Twain said:

The best offer feature is for list price only. Shipping never part of the negotiation. This is eBay’s policy and I’ve had to copy and paste it several times for people who just don’t get it.


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thanks...I didn't know this.

For an item that sold in original box: what if the buyer's offer includes the condition to exclude the original box to save on shipping...is the sale locked into the displayed shipping charge?

[$20 on joe vs dan]

What's the angle on ebay sellers w/ ridiculous S&H prices?  Doesn't ebay still take the fees off final price?

Is it just to confuse buyers trying to search and compare prices?  i find this tactic very off-putting (as a buyer) and regardless of final price being good or not...I've never purchased from these.

[Brystheguy]

29 minutes ago, $20 on joe vs dan said:

What's the angle on ebay sellers w/ ridiculous S&H prices?  Doesn't ebay still take the fees off final price?

Is it just to confuse buyers trying to search and compare prices?  i find this tactic very off-putting (as a buyer) and regardless of final price being good or not...I've never purchased from these.

There isn't a Final Value Fee taken from shipping so they are trying to get a few more bucks by adding a larger S&H that won't get a percentage taken from it.

[Grynn]

2 minutes ago, Brystheguy said:

There isn't a Final Value Fee taken from shipping so they are trying to get a few more bucks by adding a larger S&H that won't get a percentage taken from it.

Wrong, this changed years ago.

The only conceivable advantage of rigging a listing this way is to show up as the lowest "item price"

[Phil B]

4 minutes ago, Brystheguy said:

There isn't a Final Value Fee taken from shipping so they are trying to get a few more bucks by adding a larger S&H that won't get a percentage taken from it.

 

1 minute ago, Grynn said:

Wrong, this changed years ago.

The only conceivable advantage of rigging a listing this way is to show up as the lowest "item price"

add to that that S&H doesn't earn you Ebay Bucks, so they are royally screwing their customers over. 

[Brystheguy]

5 minutes ago, Grynn said:

Wrong, this changed years ago.

The only conceivable advantage of rigging a listing this way is to show up as the lowest "item price"

Interesting.  This helped level the playing field then.

[brickvoyeur]

3 minutes ago, Brystheguy said:

Interesting.  This helped level the playing field then.

Yes it did... 8 years ago....

Did you jump on the back of @exciter1's time machine on his return trip from going discount hunting?

Edited February 21, 2019 by brickvoyeur

[exciter1]

6 minutes ago, brickvoyeur said:

Yes it did... 8 years ago....

Did you jump on the back of @exciter1's time machine on his return trip from going discount hunting?

I'll send over my AOL CD.

[Brystheguy]

7 minutes ago, brickvoyeur said:

Yes it did... 8 years ago....

Did you jump on the back of @exciter1's time machine on his return trip from going discount hunting?

Ha, I've been off Ebay for quite a while! LEGO has me back in the game a bit.

[$20 on joe vs dan]

I had a feeling that the high S&H doesn't really help anyone...in this age of return hassles...why would any seller want to "trick" the buyer...the bigger the profit the bigger the return hassle-No?

 

if one senses that the auction winner may want out of the deal (item not shipped yet)...assuming the winner agrees...is there a painless way to cancel and re-list?

[Darth_Raichu]

38 minutes ago, $20 on joe vs dan said:

I had a feeling that the high S&H doesn't really help anyone...in this age of return hassles...why would any seller want to "trick" the buyer...the bigger the profit the bigger the return hassle-No?

It is a really old trick sellers used to do to avoid paying final value fees to eBay.  It was made useless by eBay a longtime ago. 

40 minutes ago, $20 on joe vs dan said:

if one senses that the auction winner may want out of the deal (item not shipped yet)...assuming the winner agrees...is there a painless way to cancel and re-list?

Just hit cancel and choose "buyer asked to cancel" as reason