Let's get proactive about LEGO scams on eBay.

[pickleboy]

We aren't playing Jr. detective, we are trying to help something. If you don't want to be a part of it, leave the thread. It wasn't called "let's argue over whether it will help anything".

 

Your views on this are why things have gotten this way. You think we are being immature by acting as "Jr. detectives"? You are being immature by acting as if this doesn't affect you.

LOL yeah we would hate for anyone to inject any reason into the mob. 

Go ahead guys, save the world one listing at a time and way to completely miss the point.

[gte206w]

When I was on the buying end of a drop-shipping scam, it required detective work to figure it out.  The seller had over 1000 feedback, but their listings were all stock photo and free shipping with below-MSRP new product.  When the Lego arrived, the invoice had a buyer's address that did not match with the "location" of my seller.  Further, searching for her username brought up an account on Freelancer.com, and the fact that she was actively working for someone who wanted people with high feedback and clear PayPal history to sell their stuff.  The final straw was when a 2nd and then a 3rd set arrived, though I had only ordered one.  All three had different names and addresses on the invoices.

 

I notified the seller, eBay, and Lego of my findings, and the seller's account was closed.

 

If enough of the boxes get checked that it becomes far more likely to be illegitimate than on the up-and-up, but one chooses to be contrarian and use my favorite line from Dumb and Dumber (Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred? Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million. [pause]. Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance) to rationalize why they'll continue to prefer the minority opinion,  he or she is only doing it out of greed over the steal of a price.

 

Edit:  I want to clarify that there isn't enough of that evidence for me to personally say that this monteendunn_toy person is scamming or not.  There is enough, though, for me to not want to touch it with a 10 foot pole.

[pickleboy]

When I was on the buying end of a drop-shipping scam, it required detective work to figure it out.  The seller had over 1000 feedback, but their listings were all stock photo and free shipping with below-MSRP new product.  When the Lego arrived, the invoice had a buyer's address that did not match with the "location" of my seller.  Further, searching for her username brought up an account on Freelancer.com, and the fact that she was actively working for someone who wanted people with high feedback and clear PayPal history to sell their stuff.  The final straw was when a 2nd and then a 3rd set arrived, though I had only ordered one.  All three had different names and addresses on the invoices.

 

I notified the seller, eBay, and Lego of my findings, and the seller's account was closed.

 

If enough of the boxes get checked that it becomes far more likely to be illegitimate than on the up-and-up, but one chooses to be contrarian and use my favorite line from Dumb and Dumber (Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred? Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million. [pause]. Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance) to rationalize why they'll continue to prefer the minority opinion,  he or she is only doing it out of greed over the steal of a price.

What you are talking about is REAL hard evidence...  You aren't making an educated guess.  ...glad you reported them.

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

What you are talking about is REAL hard evidence...  You aren't making an educated guess.  ...glad you reported them.

 

And I have caught people before as well with real hard evidence. Read my blog article on Drop-Shipping. I know what to look for an expect.

 

Accusing them here literally hurts them none at all. It can only have a positive effect. If they are legitimate, they have nothing to worry about.

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

LOL yeah we would hate for anyone to inject any reason into the mob. 

Go ahead guys, save the world one listing at a time and way to completely miss the point.

 

As you take the attitude of "there is nothing we can do about it so who cares"? How are you helping it?

[Diabolos80]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Death-Star-10188-Star-Wars-Set-Brand-New-Factory-Sealed-/121149454124?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item1c3511f72c

MISB Death Star. $369. Free expedited shipping. 50 feedback. One negative feedback, in which the buyer states that the seller is dropshipping with a stolen credit card.

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Death-Star-10188-Star-Wars-Set-Brand-New-Factory-Sealed-/121149454124?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item1c3511f72c

MISB Death Star. $369. Free expedited shipping. 50 feedback. One negative feedback, in which the buyer states that the seller is dropshipping with a stolen credit card.

 

Lol - that feedback was from one of my Ebay accounts! Thats the guy I caught that I wrote the article about!

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

Can you report someone for lying - he says his feedback  is 100%. Lol

[pickleboy]

I think it's pretty obvious that we will agree to disagree. No need to keep kicking the horse...it's dead. 

All I want is people to be careful before they put someone on blast. (It's not just to protect the innocent but yourself when you accuse the wrong person.) The message isn't that hard to understand. 
 

I am not a lawyer but I'd also be real careful before I affected someone's business unless I was 100% sure.  There are libel and slander laws.   People have been sued over tweets, blogs, angie's listing reviews etc and just about everything else for making untrue statements about a company/person.  You better be certain...

 

[Diabolos80]

Lol - that feedback was from one of my Ebay accounts! Thats the guy I caught that I wrote the article about!

Small world. I wonder if this happy coincidence will help to persuade some of the doubters that we might actually know what we're doing here.

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

I think it's pretty obvious that we will agree to disagree. No need to keep kicking the horse...it's dead. 

All I want is people to be careful before they put someone on blast. (It's not just to protect the innocent but yourself when you accuse the wrong person.) The message isn't that hard to understand. 

 

I am not a lawyer but I'd also be real careful before I affected someone's business unless I was 100% sure.  There are libel and slander laws.   People have been sued over tweets, blogs, angie's listing reviews etc and just about everything else for making untrue statements about a company/person.  You better be certain...

 

 

And I think that is a fair point. agree to disagree is fine with me.

 

I see it like steroids in baseball though - guilty until proven innocent. Lol

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

Small world. I wonder if this happy coincidence will help to persuade some of the doubters that we might actually know what we're doing here.

 

I know right. His listings will get taken down again. Ebay took them down before.

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

Here is another:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Star-Wars-Mini-Millennium-Falcon-7965-Brand-New-/171084082648?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item27d567edd8

[Diabolos80]

Here is another:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Star-Wars-Mini-Millennium-Falcon-7965-Brand-New-/171084082648?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item27d567edd8

Already sold. I wouldn't have reported it though. Those MFs were probably just stolen right off a truck, no stolen credit card required. Plus, the shipping origin is the seller's actual town instead of just "United States." Most of the obvious dropscammers use the broad origin address to help hide their tracks, I think. If a seller lists his address in Texas and your item ships out of North Carolina, that's a red flag.

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

Already sold. I wouldn't have reported it though. Those MFs were probably just stolen right off a truck, no stolen credit card required. Plus, the shipping origin is the seller's actual town instead of just "United States." Most of the obvious dropscammers use the broad origin address to help hide their tracks, I think. If a seller lists his address in Texas and your item ships out of North Carolina, that's a red flag.

 

I waited to report it until I got someone elses opinion. I wondered about the shipping place.

[Mos_Eisley]

Like Stephen said, it's too bad that some here would rather score the good deal than pay a little more and buy from a legitimate source.

[Diabolos80]

Like Stephen said, it's too bad that some here would rather score the good deal than pay a little more and buy from a legitimate source.

The ironic part is that by buying at lower prices from illegitimate sources, they're actually lowering the value of their own investment. Duuurrrr.

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

The ironic part is that by buying at lower prices from illegitimate sources, they're actually lowering the value of their own investment. Duuurrrr.

 

You got a LOL at work from me. Good work.

[Mos_Eisley]

The person I'm thinking of doesn't care about that little drop. He'll just wait a little longer to sell.

[matt1147]

What about sellers who blatantly lie in their descriptions and jack up their prices?? http://bit.ly/13N8H3j

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

What about sellers who blatantly lie in their descriptions and jack up their prices?? http://bit.ly/13N8H3j

 

I am totally up for reporting these people. Problem is, I don't know how you do it where you explain to ebay they are lying. I have seen others that claim they have 100% feedback and don't. I want to report listings for lying.

[thombockerman]

I've reported counterfeit items on current auctions to eBay and their response was that they don't care and try contacting my local police department. They just want the listing money it seems. I hope someone working there would care about things like this

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

I've reported counterfeit items on current auctions to eBay and their response was that they don't care and try contacting my local police department. They just want the listing money it seems. I hope someone working there would care about things like this

 

Yeah like the police would give a damn

[Diabolos80]

This thread has 15 followers. Yet each posted suspicious listing is only getting one or two people saying they reported it or didn't.

....I hope this thread isn't being lurked in order to learn about great deals on ebay. We're not fooling around here. If you buy a $370 Death Star from a listing I suggest is fraudulent, you're gonna have a bad time. I'm talking to the newbies with more money than sense, and the vets who should have the sense to know better.

Disclaimer: Don't come crying to me when it turns out you're not so clever after all.

[gte206w]

This thread has 15 followers. Yet each posted suspicious listing is only getting one or two people saying they reported it or didn't.

....I hope this thread isn't being lurked in order to learn about great deals on ebay. We're not fooling around here. If you buy a $370 Death Star from a listing I suggest is fraudulent, you're gonna have a bad time. I'm talking to the newbies with more money than sense, and the vets who should have the sense to know better.

Disclaimer: Don't come crying to me when it turns out you're not so clever after all.

 

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