Grolim Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 lol Helm's Deep vs Pirate Ship ambush is the comparison.... 2 flag ships of the wave... Helm's Deep vs Orthanc is even bigger price gap thanpirate ship vs Helm's Deep and these 2 (Ship and Helm's Deep) are considered top sets of the line) Thats not semantics... Oh, lol, I'm very sorry. I had no idea that you'd take my general statement of comparison and then strawman the argument down to only taking the 2 flag ships excluding a really big set that is store exclusive for now. Yes, based on your narrow criteria then Helms Deep is probably better than Pirate Ambush. My opinion is however not altered. I own all the sets, and the only wave 1 set I have left on display is HD, the wave 2 sets are all on shelves and I can see them being there for a while. On average, in my opinion, wave 2 is better than wave 1. I think the vibe I have picked up around here and on other sites is that this opinion is shared by most people. If you'd like to set up a poll between the two maybe that will shed some light on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcarin Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It does depend what each individual prefer... i bet someone prefers Pirate Ship Ambush over Helm's Deep because he/she just likes ships, while someone else does not.... Oh, lol, I'm very sorry. I had no idea that you'd take my general statement of comparison and then strawman the argument down to only taking the 2 flag ships excluding a really big set that is store exclusive for now. Nah I just did not bother to consider more ( I had it written and deleted because the topic is entirely different and would not like to go off topic) Its about Hobbit wave 2 rumors with set names (unofficial) on topic: I just hope Mirkwood army set will not feature Mirkwood elf guard polybags figures and will actually give us proper elves without hoods but hairpieces... or i will be extra disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadowsk1 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 These sound good to me. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartikis Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 without a pic its hard to speculate too much but im just not feeling to excited atm. i guess the Lake Town kind of let me down or maybe it was just the price point of $49.99 for a row boat and two tiny buildings :-( I dont know how people can afford to buy these at full MSRP, i just cant afford it, personally i wait 6 months and buy used sets haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spener90 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Why do we have to go through this for the millionth time.... its a CONTRACT problem that they cannot give us battle packs... NOT EVERYONE KNOWS THIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskers1236 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I wouldn't take these set name rumors as gospel. The last rumor list we got like this was way off, so while there could be some similarities to the set names and what is actually in them, I would wait and see. If there isn't a set with the name Smaug in it, I would be very surprised. As others have pointed out as well, we are missing some price points there as well. The small and flagship sets are missing from the list, there will be more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthpunk Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It seems as though a flagship set is missing from that list. If there is a Smaug set I'm sure TLG is going to desperately try to keep it a secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deez_Brickz Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Someone on Brickset apparently has the set names for the Hobbit 2013 lineup. From a quote "reliable source", I'm putting the odds of this being correct at about 75% from my experiences. 79011 Dol Guldur Ambush 19.99 79012 Mirkwood Elf Army 29.99 79013 Lake Town Chase 49.99 (already known) 79014 Dol Guldur Battle 69.99 The person claims the prices are in euros, but since the price for the Lake Town Chase is 49.99, which as we know is the price in USD, it could be in dollars. If this list is indeed true it is pretty disappointing to those hoping for a Smaug set in this wave. That said, the absence of Smaug in this wave will mean it is almost a given that the third wave will contain at least one Smaug-related set. I like the sound of the Mirkwood Elf Army, but it's sort of werid that no small set is listed. 79014 Dol Guldur Battle sort of scares me - here's to hoping it doesn't end up like another Goblin King Battle... For those wondering, here is the Brickset link: http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/11780/the-hobbit-2013-sets There seems to be this rule that we always get one "peaceful" type of set with each wave of LOTR and the Hobbit (Gandalf Arrives, Council of Elrond, Unexpected Gathering). Do people think that Lake Town Chase is the "peaceful" set for this Hobbit wave? Beorn and his house seem missing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quacs Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It seems as though a flagship set is missing from that list. If there is a Smaug set I'm sure TLG is going to desperately try to keep it a secret. It may be an exclusive, like Tower of Orthanc. If so, TLC has a better chance of keeping this flagship set under wraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcarin Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Lets use the topic for news and upcoming pictures of LEGO Hobbit sets... some information from Eurobricks: Well, I`ve seen blurry pictures of some sets:- 79012 Mirkwood Elf Army - 442 parts, 6 minifigs and a grey warg - 2 orcs, 3 elves and some kind of elf king. A wall and tree in tan, dark tan and brown.- 79011 Dol Guldur Ambush - 3 minifigs - two orcs and some kind of a soldier and grey rock.- 79014 Dol Guldur Battle - 6 minifigs - Gandalf in grey unifirm, probably Radagast, some kind of Nazgul, normal orc, "white" orc (like Yzneg), and a warrior with big red beard. Set looks similar to Black Gate, only in grey colours.And 79013 as we seen before. In december in stores. Elf army sounds great! I only wish elves have shields/armors and good helmets like in the 2nd trailer... and tree is always nice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkness Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'm looking forward to both these sets and the movie. All the sets interest me though we did have trees and rocks in the last wave so I am not too happy they feature once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seapotato Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Eee I must resist buying more...love the hobbit and lotr themes though! Can't wait to see the new sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcarin Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Eee I must resist buying more...love the hobbit and lotr themes though! Can't wait to see the new sets. Seems ill easily resist all sets except for Mirkwood Elf Army... if it really comes with 6 minifigures and a decent looking tree (+ warg) especially if elven warriors atleast get 1-2 shields and helmets armors etc.... Other sets look meh... the laketown set for me is a letdown, the ambush is just okish and if battle is really like black gates then ill have no urge to buy them and will get Radagast on bricklink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrmando Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'll be all over these sets probably, but especially the elf army one. That sounds amazing. I like Evangeline lily too from the LOST days so hopefully we get a minifigure form of her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstegman Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 So glad I read this today, I didn't know the new trailer was out and IT LOOKS FANTASTIC! Much darker than the first one. As for the set's I look forward to seeing them as well and glad they continue to make sets, hope this turns into a Star Wars type relationship and continues to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkness Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'll be all over these sets probably, but especially the elf army one. That sounds amazing. I like Evangeline lily too from the LOST days so hopefully we get a minifigure form of her! We already got a Tauriel minifig in the Mirkwood spiders set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrmando Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 We already got a Tauriel minifig in the Mirkwood spiders set I know, I want her in a dress though, forgot to specify. It probably won't happen but whatever I can dream hah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spener90 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Can we make an agreement to change the name of this thread to "Lego The Hobbit 2013 Set Pictures," or something like that when the pictures are posted. I don't mind reading the comments, but every time I check I hope they were released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskers1236 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Can we make an agreement to change the name of this thread to "Lego The Hobbit 2013 Set Pictures," or something like that when the pictures are posted. I don't mind reading the comments, but every time I check I hope they were released. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justafrog Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Elf army... well, my oldest daughter doesn't collect much Lego, but I know what's hitting her wish list soon. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNH1974 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 So all those who are buying the Uruk Hai army will have to buy the Elf Army to match. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicblast Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 The Brick Fan is reporting that EuroBricks has reported...Well, I guess that's how news spreads around the LEGO community. Anyhoo, NEW HOBBIT: THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG SETS!The details aren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eightbrick Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I thought it looked a lot darker than that at comicon or wherever that was... About the decieving thing maybe I should email them demanding my cgi buildings once I buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskers1236 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Mirkwood Elf Army set is what I'm looking forward to. Laketown is a nice set, but appears way overpriced for what it is, sort of like a Weathertop type set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkness Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 That is some impressive box art though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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