No More Monkeys Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I'm glad to see the Galaxy Squad sets on clearance at LEGO Shop at Home. Going to take a while for these to get out of the market, but the Galactic Titan was only out about a year, seems like a nice modest portfolio booster if you're willing to hold a while. I'm happy to have 3 good ones to save, and 1 bashed box to build. I would call that a sale, not clearence. Once they get to 50%-75% off, then we could talk clearance... Quote
Frank Brickowski Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Previous releases have performed well. http://www.brickpicker.com/bpms/set.cfm?set=3451-1 http://www.brickpicker.com/bpms/set.cfm?set=10024-1 Why not this one? The old Camel was released THIRTEEN years ago - quite a while to wait for these kind of gains. Furthermore today the market is different from ten years ago. The new Camel will not be considered a rare item as so many people have stocked up on it. Add this to what I said above and it tells me: don't buy. Furthermore, take a look at the UK price and CAGR fot the old one - this is what I imagine realistic for the new one, too. The US price seems quite overvalued for some reason. Maybe too many investors in the US game. And regarding the Fokker Dr.1: This is completely another topic! The Camel is nothing like Richthofen's Fokker Dr. 1. If you asked me about buying a new Fokker my advice would be the direct opposite of what I said about buaing the Camel. For me this is like comparing a Gremlin to the the Mini Cooper. Quote
Frank Brickowski Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Why Technic's Racer 42000 and Service Truck 42008? The known Technic lifecycle for these two (non-flagships from 2013) ends at the end of this year. Quote
Neosphinx Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 What LEGO chooses to put in the catalogs is also partially dependant on the popularity of certain sets/themes in different regions. Star Wars isn't as big in Europe, so naturally, LEGO wouldn't promote it as much, since it is more likely that a customer would be interested in some other set - Technic, for example, which I hear is very popular "across the pond". Where do you get your sources that Star Wars isn't as big in Europe? Quote
stephen_rockefeller Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I won't have a source but in would also say star wars is more popular here than over there....are we wrong? Quote
jaisonline Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 The old Camel was released THIRTEEN years ago - quite a while to wait for these kind of gains. Furthermore today the market is different from ten years ago. The new Camel will not be considered a rare item as so many people have stocked up on it. Add this to what I said above and it tells me: don't buy. Furthermore, take a look at the UK price and CAGR fot the old one - this is what I imagine realistic for the new one, too. The US price seems quite overvalued for some reason. Maybe too many investors in the US game. And regarding the Fokker Dr.1: This is completely another topic! The Camel is nothing like Richthofen's Fokker Dr. 1. If you asked me about buying a new Fokker my advice would be the direct opposite of what I said about buaing the Camel. For me this is like comparing a Gremlin to the the Mini Cooper. Agree about comparing the SC to the Fokker Dr 1 plus the latter has a cooler name Many WW1 Lego enthusiasts are hoping a refreshed Red Baron set is released. That is part of the reason many 10226 SC fans mention it. Have you ever built a 10226? If not, I suggest you do. I was totally down on the 10226 as an investment until I built it. Just give it a try. Used sets can be had for $70-$75. Quote
Quacs Posted June 17, 2014 Author Posted June 17, 2014 The old Camel was released THIRTEEN years ago - quite a while to wait for these kind of gains. Furthermore today the market is different from ten years ago. The new Camel will not be considered a rare item as so many people have stocked up on it. Add this to what I said above and it tells me: don't buy. Furthermore, take a look at the UK price and CAGR fot the old one - this is what I imagine realistic for the new one, too. The US price seems quite overvalued for some reason. Maybe too many investors in the US game. And regarding the Fokker Dr.1: This is completely another topic! The Camel is nothing like Richthofen's Fokker Dr. 1. If you asked me about buying a new Fokker my advice would be the direct opposite of what I said about buaing the Camel. For me this is like comparing a Gremlin to the the Mini Cooper. These prices have been plateaued for years, they didn't just reach these levels last year. Plus, you said earlier that there were few WW1 enthusiasts, a big reason to stay away. The gains from both of these older sets tell me there were plenty that would plunk down big money for WWI sets. Also, re: your comment that the market has changed, you're right. There are many more AFOLs and Lego collectors now than there were eleven years ago. The secondary market is MUCH larger. You're welcome to do what you please with your money, but I think you are way overthinking this. People will pay $ for SC. They have in the past, they will again. 2 Quote
Frank Brickowski Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Agree about comparing the SC to the Fokker Dr 1 plus the latter has a cooler name Many WW1 Lego enthusiasts are hoping a refreshed Red Baron set is released. That is part of the reason many 10226 SC fans mention it. Have you ever built a 10226? If not, I suggest you do. I was totally down on the 10226 as an investment until I built it. Just give it a try. Used sets can be had for $70-$75. Thanks for the tip, Jason. "Unfortunately" LEGO is only business for me. I do absolutely like to look at the sets live (in Stores) and imagine how cool it would be to have them if a were a LEGO-building fan, I love to look at your reviews and news about new ones coming up, I also actually like to look at unbosing videos. But actually building the sets is not for me, anyway. I used to do so as a kid, but never returned to it after that. This "not-building" "policy" is simply due to me not wanting wo own too many stuff. Regardless of if I like it or not. Thinking about how it would be to have this or that set does the job for me already. Quote
stephen_rockefeller Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I say go with your gut instict. If you buy a huge amount of a single set and it doesn't do well......o well that is the gamble you take when playing this game. There is no more easy in this game and if you ask me there never was. All these articles on the Internet and in print saying buy Lego sell Lego easy money are fooling some people. I guarantee there many people who have already dropped out because it wasn't the easy money they had hoped it would be. 1 Quote
M4x18 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I had not noticed that the Galaxy Squad line was removed from LEGO Shop at Home Spain a short time ago. Sent from my iPhone using Brickpicker Quote
No More Monkeys Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 So, Pet Shop is back in stock at Amazon, but Townhall did not make it? What gives?? Quote
comicblast Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Where do you get your sources that Star Wars isn't as big in Europe? Just based on what I've read from the forums. No real proof, but SW is more widespread here in the US. So, Pet Shop is back in stock at Amazon, but Townhall did not make it? What gives?? Maybe it takes longer to ship TH's then PS? I'm pretty sure it will come in stock. I don't think TLG will retire two modulars in one year. Quote
No More Monkeys Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Maybe it takes longer to ship TH's then PS? I'm pretty sure it will come in stock. I don't think TLG will retire two modulars in one year. They could do a cruel joke, and retire TH instead of GE :-) Quote
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CNH1974 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 To be honest, I never really understood why people love the Sopwith Camel as an investment (winner). Personally I do like the model and its functionalities. And if you are able to buy cheap you will get some profit post-EOL. But I just dont see people going crazy about this set anytime post-EOL. Firstly it is a historic plane from WW1 - not a very popular era, not a very "popular" war (even less talked about in the US than in Europe), no really popular machinery aside from Fokker Dr.1. And from my point of view the 100th anniversary will hardly do anything to drive up interest in the whole WW1 topic. Secondly, there is no theme the Camel could be added to. Thirdly, just take a look at the Camel polybag vs. the T1 polybag... I think even in 3 years after EOL you can be happy if the Camel sees a gain of +50% on the retail price. I doubt it will ever reach double retail price at any point. So the question I ask is: Why buy ANY Camels as long as there is a T1 right next to it (on the shelves)? My guess is: If the Camel was about to retire this year, it could be included in the June or December sales since I think I wont clear out by itself fast enough if LEGO stopped production now. Of course I dont have sales data from LEGO for the Camel, I just cannot imagine personally it sells that well. I am wondering the difference in sales is down to something simpler. Ease of display. The VW and the up and coming Mini will fit onto a small shelf. The SC won't. It looks great but I have no where to put it. But I think the SC will outlast the VW. :) Quote
warrior44 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Grand Emporium back in stock at Lego website. Quote
No More Monkeys Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Grand Emporium back in stock at Lego website. Uhm, yes... for the last three weeks or so 2 Quote
warrior44 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Uhm, yes... for the last three weeks or so ouch. I guess I deserved that. Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 ouch. I guess I deserved that. Of course you did. You posted verifiable fact on speculation thread 2 Quote
mudcatsfan Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Check the death star thread. That is all. 1 Quote
No More Monkeys Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Of course you did. You posted verifiable fact on speculation thread Yeah, blasphemy! Quote
binici Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Check the death star thread. That is all. Panic time? Sent from my iPhone using Brickpicker Quote
No More Monkeys Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Panic time? Sent from my iPhone using Brickpicker Or rather... Hammer time! Can't touch this! Quote
No More Monkeys Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Gah! Haunted Hause is OOS on Amazon... 2 Quote
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