graffiti600rr Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Just added the GSP to my 41999 listing. Really seems like a better way to ship overseas. Quote
cohens714 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I sold all 4 of mine last week using GSP for $1800. I have used GSP several times with no issues. It makes life easier for both buyer and seller. I am personally happy to just flip my 4 for a nice profit. I might miss out on bigger gains later but as of now the price is dropping and my guess is the shine will wear off on these soonish which will continue to depress the price. I don't ever believe the price will drop to retail however so the only real question is how much money you will ultimately make assuming you bought them at the retail price. Quote
anon33 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Surprised the price has not decreased any further.... the number of listings are staying steady at 150. Quote
kerrmando Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 If anyone want's to unload their crawlers, by trade or sell through paypal without ebay fees please message me! I have quite a few sets I might be willing to trade and see people on here who seem to want to! Thanks! 1 Quote
DoNotInsertIntoMouth Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 The only thing that scares me about GSP is if someone files a complaint. I haven't tried it, but there isn't any tracking available. Has anyone else had sucess or more importantly trouble with GSP? You only get it to the depot and everything is fine from their - Ebay is responsible after that If you read the terms .. as long as you can provide proof it was delivered to the GSP warehouse you are covered. The GSP deals with anything that happens from their warehouse to the international buyer Fo Sho Quote
asharerin Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 The only thing that scares me about GSP is if someone files a complaint. I haven't tried it, but there isn't any tracking available. Has anyone else had sucess or more importantly trouble with GSP? Go on the ebay community help boards and you will see the bad reviews for GSP (or go on youtube if you want to hear them spout off). The issue is once your item arrives in Kentucky they will unpack it and repack it themselves into boxes that they can ship and get through customs as cheaply as possible. So if you bubble wrap a set they will remove the wrap and pack it in a nice thin shipping box for you with no protection at all. Lots of reports of very poor recycled boxes being used as well. So when the buyer receives the item beat up you will be left on the hook for negative feedback and for doing a partial refund for the damage to try and save your DSR. The other issue is the very long shipping time compared to sending the item yourself. And of course the inflated shipping price will not get you good feedback either. The only advantage GSP has is if the item is lost you won't have to deal with getting a refund from your insurance carrier (or your pocket if you self insure). Most likely the buyer will still leave you negative feedback tho. Personally I cannot see any advantage to using GSP if you want to remain a seller on ebay. Once your DSR drops you will have to deal with GuardRail and most likely you will be banned during the next culling. Quote
Guest TabbyBoy Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Since the licence plate on the 41999 states "EK xxxxx of 20,000", why worry as that alone tells me that only 20,000 of that type have been made? The last thing Lego wants is a mass lawsuit on it's hands. What are they going to do if they make more, send out replacement licence plates with "EK xxxxxx of 100,000" ? Quote
Sauromosis Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Go on the ebay community help boards and you will see the bad reviews for GSP (or go on youtube if you want to hear them spout off). The issue is once your item arrives in Kentucky they will unpack it and repack it themselves into boxes that they can ship and get through customs as cheaply as possible. So if you bubble wrap a set they will remove the wrap and pack it in a nice thin shipping box for you with no protection at all. Lots of reports of very poor recycled boxes being used as well. So when the buyer receives the item beat up you will be left on the hook for negative feedback and for doing a partial refund for the damage to try and save your DSR. The other issue is the very long shipping time compared to sending the item yourself. And of course the inflated shipping price will not get you good feedback either. The only advantage GSP has is if the item is lost you won't have to deal with getting a refund from your insurance carrier (or your pocket if you self insure). Most likely the buyer will still leave you negative feedback tho. Personally I cannot see any advantage to using GSP if you want to remain a seller on ebay. Once your DSR drops you will have to deal with GuardRail and most likely you will be banned during the next culling. I didn't know they repackaged the item. They better not have messed up the manual that I packed with the used set! I just opted out and removed it from my listings. Quote
DoNotInsertIntoMouth Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Go on the ebay community help boards and you will see the bad reviews for GSP (or go on youtube if you want to hear them spout off). The issue is once your item arrives in Kentucky they will unpack it and repack it themselves into boxes that they can ship and get through customs as cheaply as possible. So if you bubble wrap a set they will remove the wrap and pack it in a nice thin shipping box for you with no protection at all. Lots of reports of very poor recycled boxes being used as well. So when the buyer receives the item beat up you will be left on the hook for negative feedback and for doing a partial refund for the damage to try and save your DSR. The other issue is the very long shipping time compared to sending the item yourself. And of course the inflated shipping price will not get you good feedback either. The only advantage GSP has is if the item is lost you won't have to deal with getting a refund from your insurance carrier (or your pocket if you self insure). Most likely the buyer will still leave you negative feedback tho. Personally I cannot see any advantage to using GSP if you want to remain a seller on ebay. Once your DSR drops you will have to deal with GuardRail and most likely you will be banned during the next culling. I worried about this a little bit. I have not had any trouble with any of mine yet though. Quote
kerrmando Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I've not had an issue with GSP yet and we've used it quite a bit. Quote
cohens714 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I've not had an issue with GSP yet and we've used it quite a bit. Same here. I have used it about a dozen times with no issues so far. Quote
Lateral-G Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 The last thing Lego wants is a mass lawsuit on it's hands. Seriously? You think anyone is going to sue Lego because they made more than 20,000 SE Crawlers? Talk about tort abuse. 1 Quote
cohens714 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Seriously? You think anyone is going to sue Lego because they made more than 20,000 SE Crawlers? Talk about tort abuse. I am not sure how familiar you are with the law but this would lead to a class action lawsuit for false advertising in about 2 minutes. If you sell something under false pretenses people will sue you. Quote
pkieu87 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 That was exactly what I was going to say but you beat me to it lol. If ppl know, a class action suit for false advertising would cost them millions Quote
kerrmando Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Let's not get into a Tort reform argument on here, I don't want to know Exobro's opinions I don't think we will be seeing any lawsuits, or any more crawlers than 20,000. Lego is an extremely reliable company, they keep their word on many things. Just look at their commitment passed down by their founder not to do any strictly war related themes. They've done that so far. I think we will be quite fine with our 20,000 Lego crawlers, so I continue to suggest buying them. Quote
Guest TabbyBoy Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I am not sure how familiar you are with the law but this would lead to a class action lawsuit for false advertising in about 2 minutes. If you sell something under false pretenses people will sue you. Too right, I'd sue for sure. Since Lego are a "good" company I'll eat my 12 Top Gear STIGs, if > 20,000 SE Crawlers appear. Quote
Diabolos80 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I saw an ebay listing last night proclaiming that the particular crawler for sale is '"1 of the first 1,000." Um.... Quote
pkieu87 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Could be true if they opened and resealed it. Or they are confident because they bought it when it first came out. Buyer would open a buyer protection case if it wasnt though. Quote
DoNotInsertIntoMouth Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I saw an ebay listing last night proclaiming that the particular crawler for sale is '"1 of the first 1,000." Um.... Probably opened it. I mean you could probably see it without opening the bags. Although you would think they would just list the number. Quote
graffiti600rr Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I opened 1 of the 2 that I bought week one and I got EK15909. So unless he opened the box there is no way of assuming. Quote
sharktip Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I agree that the licence plate could make the set more valuable. Usually to maximise the investment you wouldn't want to open the set but I wonder if this will change due to the unique number plate. I missed buying any sets from Lego before they sold out and by 17th August they were already selling for more than double RRP on Ebay. Realising the potential of this set to increase in value, I still bought 4. I decided that the box that arrived in the worst condition I would open and build. The one I opened has licence plate 01977. This now makes me wonder if plates say 01950 to 02013 will be quite valuable as they match people's birthdays. Also as the model is based on an American muscle car, I wonder if numbers like 01969 will be more valuable as this was when the Dodge Charger came out for example. Quote
Fcbarcelona101 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 They could definitely produce more. Now, would that lead to a lawsuit? probably, unfortunately we live in a lawsuit loving society....then come and complain why healthcare is so expensive. Anyway, I sold most of my 41999s for $450 and kept only 1 for the long term. If this thing under performs I won't be returning it, I'll just open it and build for myself as it looks like a great model. Quote
legoman12323123 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 The only thing that scares me about GSP is if someone files a complaint. I haven't tried it, but there isn't any tracking available. Has anyone else had sucess or more importantly trouble with GSP? If you read the terms .. as long as you can provide proof it was delivered to the GSP warehouse you are covered. The GSP deals with anything that happens from their warehouse to the international buyer Quote
Sauromosis Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 My store said to call back today and see if they got more in their shipment...they didn't. Quote
Ambroise Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I bought this set to built it. Now, I believe in Lego karma... Quote
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