Lego 90th anniversary vote for a theme to bring back:

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4 hours ago, Pseudoty said:

It isn’t. It is the same age group of people pumping GME. Castle was split into 4 sub themes so it probably would have been number 1. They did a bionicle reboot based on fan “demand” in 2015 and the sets didn’t sell well and the line was canceled in the middle of the second wave. This did make for some great returns on the rare sets needed to combine to make the master set. 

I pick up 10-12 of these 2015 Bionicle at Kmart (that was closing back in 2017) for $5, and sold them for $60-$115!!!!

Second round of voting is open and they fixed it and added Castle. 
 

https://ideas.lego.com/blogs/a4ae09b6-0d4c-4307-9da8-3ee9f3d368d6/post/6c5a05b4-e29c-47ec-8841-a2bce1f8933e

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Edited February 3, 20214 yr by Pseudoty

Good on Lego for changing it. I REALLY cant believe Bionicle has that many votes, i just personally never enjoyed the theme.

I still think the Classic themes will cannibalize each other to allow Bionicle to win in the end, unfortunately.  Hope I'm wrong.  To me, the Bionicle/Hero Factory/Buildable Figures lines are the worst in Lego's history.  I know there are fans of the themes, and money to be made on them, but they just don't fit the Lego spectrum for me.  

Bionicle is not LEGO!

I suspect that the reddit boards are somehow behind this.

2 hours ago, Pseudoty said:

Second round of voting is open and they fixed it and added Castle. 
 

https://ideas.lego.com/blogs/a4ae09b6-0d4c-4307-9da8-3ee9f3d368d6/post/6c5a05b4-e29c-47ec-8841-a2bce1f8933e

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If you're just looking to cast your vote (can only pick one this time), then cut and paste ( https://ideas.lego.com/activities/29685eb8-7ce2-4085-a143-5ef9a3411861?query=&sort=most_recent ).

The second vote will close on February 10th at 11AM CEST 2021. Please make sure you get your vote in by then! Oh and be sure to let us know why you're voting for what you're voting for on the voting page.

Edited February 3, 20214 yr by exracer327

Good on Lego for putting Castle back in the mix.  Splitting the Castle and Space votes was not smart, but at least Classic Space came through.

Bionicle is the exact reason that Lego is not going to be transparent with this second vote - at least not initially.  There is no way that they allow their 90th Anniversary Commemorative Lego set to not look like a Lego set!  I guarantee that there will be more votes against Bionicle than for it, and even if the three reasonable choices (Space, Castle, Pirates) somehow split the votes just right, and allow Bionicle to have the most votes, we will not see a Bionicle set sporting this 90th Anniversary badge of honor.  Count on it.

On the other hand, if Space, Castle or Pirates wins the vote, then I could see the second vote suddenly becoming transparent.

FWIW, I voted for Classic Space.  I grew up on Blacktron and still love those sets.  In the comment section of my vote, I asked for a 4000+ piece set, with a nicely detailed base, a large ship, at least one smaller ground vehicle, and lots of spaceman/woman minifigs - hopefully in different colors, and maybe including a brand new color.  In my mind, it's a combination of 6987, 6954 and steroids!

Castle for me! I hope anything but Bionicle wins.

I voted Classic Space because that was my 2nd choice after Trains. Requested a modernized version of the Galaxy Explorer, maintaining the original color scheme.

Sticking with Pirates. My suggestion was to have the largest sea ships Lego has ever done for both Pirates and Imperials. I can dream. 

I voted Classic Space because that was my 2nd choice after Trains. Requested a modernized version of the Galaxy Explorer, maintaining the original color scheme.

Ha! I said the same thing.

I was going to choose Pirates, but I actually went Castle. I never had any sets growing up but would love to see modern building techniques applied to a retro design. I feel like we got a lot of Classic Space elements from TLM and of recent, we have been lucky to have some really nice Pirates or Pirate themed sets. 

Complete vote breakdown:

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Round one is over, it's time for round two!

First off, with over 77,000 people participating in this fan vote, we have been absolutely blown away by the incredible interest and support. So thank you to everyone who made their voices heard in this fan vote. We have seen every single one of your votes and comments both on LEGO Ideas and off, it's mind-blowing how excited you all are. And we are too!

Enough of that. We've said thank you to you all, but you want to know what the top three will be!

The top three voted themes were:

1. Bionicle
2. Classic Space
3. Pirates

With a monumental amount of support, you can see the full numbers for each theme below:

1. Bionicle - 24799
2. Classic Space - 18171
3. Pirates - 15884
4. Trains - 14855
5. Adventurers - 13988
6. Classic Castle -12603
7. Forestmen - 8056
8. Lion Knights - 7117
9. Imperials - 7012
10. Town - 6610
11. Black Knights - 6427
12. Model Team - 6397
13. Dragon Knights - 6334
14. Space Police - 5738
15. Rock Raiders - 5298
16. Studios - 5179
17. Blacktron - 5088
18. Ice Planet - 4503
19. Black Falcons - 4244
20. Aquazone - 4051
21. M-Tron - 3555
22. Alpha Team - 2807
23. Paradisa - 2584
24. Time Cruisers - 2234
25. Wolfpack - 2111
26. Exploriens - 1695
27. Arctic - 1620
28. Divers - 1424

 

Voted Castle. As much as I love Pirates, there are already 2 nice sets out currently.

Voted Castle.  Set 375 was the first set that I remember having.  I suggested including battle pack style sets of knights to build up bigger armies.

I have the feels for people who voted for TRAINS and ADVENTURERS. Those two alone have yet to see as much love, especially the latter.

Jang is behind the Bionicle movement had no idea that is how he started out on YouTube. 

12 hours ago, Pseudoty said:

Second round of voting is open and they fixed it and added Castle. 

LEGO separating all of the "classic" Space and Castle themes to begin with was a peculiar though somewhat understandable choice if anything to at least see where people's preferences lie.

In regards to Space, there were plenty of factions different enough from each other for the most part to warrant the split. Castle on the other hand had numerous groups originally released with a small selection in sets under each. For example, Dragon Knights/Masters had around eleven unique sets released whereas Wolfpack barely had three to their name. And aside from the various coat of arms and raised colors, the different ramparts blend in altogether cohesively.

 

Moving along, I was expecting to see Classic Space up at the top along with Bionicle. Admittedly I am a tad surprised to see Bionicle leading by that much while still at the same time perhaps not. Bionicle came out right at the start of the 2000's. People like me were in their teens back then taking high school, often a significant time growing up. Bionicle was like the odd mashup toy of a LEGO Technic action figure making the line feel more grown up than the norm. Not to mention the official DC Comics series sent with each issue for a number of years in the LEGO Club magazine further solidifying the theme as a whole more mature than anything previously attempted by the LEGO company.

Like it or not, Bionicle is LEGO same as Doom Eternal is Doom.

1 hour ago, TheOrcKing said:

Like it or not, Bionicle is LEGO same as Doom Eternal is Doom.

No - Not my LEGO.

2 hours ago, TheOrcKing said:

Like it or not, Bionicle is LEGO same as Doom Eternal is Doom.

As the young one, this is my opinion. I was 5 when Bionicle came out so I grew up alongside both bricks and technic pieces. LEGO in the early 2000s was pretty abysmal, both the designs and themes. However, Bionicle was consistently great as this weird, experimental product. It is synonymous with the best parts of LEGO from my childhood. It's frustrating to be told "that doesn't represent LEGO!" when its something you hold very dear to your heart. Especially when it's a product that literally saved the company from bankruptcy. 

I would much rather see it as part of the 90th rather than the 100th, because that's a perfect place to celebrate it. 

I really don't mind other things winning, but it's annoying to see people say that they want more space/castle/train nostalgia when those sets do actually still get a small, consistent amount of recognition from Creator or Ideas. I would much rather see Adventurers/Rock Raiders/Aquazone  than Castle/Space because those are unique themes that really do not have a modern equivalent. For castle, you can still build the same structures with the yellow bricks we see in every set. Something like Bionicle lives or dies on specialized parts; it can't really be recreated without new releases. 

16 hours ago, spener90 said:

Voted Castle. As much as I love Pirates, there are already 2 nice sets out currently.

If that was the reasoning, between lowenstein (+expansion) and blacksmith, has there not been the same number o fnice castle sets recently?

17 hours ago, CosmicSpeed said:

 would love to see modern building techniques applied to a retro design. 

I voted space with this in mind.    Basically this.

But then again, Ive been going on a space kick as of late.  Truly, excited for any of these other than bionicle.(apologies for loading on the bionicle hate. they came out during my dark ages and anything constraction has no appeal to me.)

 

Edited February 4, 20214 yr by BricksBrotha
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18 minutes ago, BricksBrotha said:

If that was the reasoning, between lowenstein (+expansion) and blacksmith, has there not been the same number o fnice castle sets recently?

I voted space with this in mind.    Basically this in mind.

But then again, Ive been going on a space kick as of late.  Truly, excited for any of these other than bionicle.(apologies for loading on the bionicle hate. they came out during my dark ages and anything constraction has no appealed to me.)

 

Lowenstein, while I have it, wasn't actually made by Lego, but in partnership. So loosely counts. That being said, as long as anything but Bionicle wins, I am pleased.

LEGO announces winner—Bionicle Nexo Knight with a shield sticker that says “90 years of not giving you suckers what you want.” Ugly Parrot GWP to appease the pirate fans.

My parent divorced when I was young. And at one house, I had only Classic Space and the other, City. I was never into Pirates or Castle.

After the Pirate Coaster came out, I’ve now developed a love for Pirates. And I have some vintage Castle stuff sitting in my “I’ve got to build this eventually” pile.

Any of those would be good, but I agree with the “no Bionicle”.

I’m pulling for Classic Space, tho. Yes Benny’s Spaceship was cool, but I’d like to see more than just that one set.

13 hours ago, raindroplet said:

As the young one, this is my opinion. I was 5 when Bionicle came out so I grew up alongside both bricks and technic pieces. LEGO in the early 2000s was pretty abysmal, both the designs and themes. However, Bionicle was consistently great as this weird, experimental product. It is synonymous with the best parts of LEGO from my childhood. It's frustrating to be told "that doesn't represent LEGO!" when its something you hold very dear to your heart. Especially when it's a product that literally saved the company from bankruptcy. 

I would much rather see it as part of the 90th rather than the 100th, because that's a perfect place to celebrate it. 

I really don't mind other things winning, but it's annoying to see people say that they want more space/castle/train nostalgia when those sets do actually still get a small, consistent amount of recognition from Creator or Ideas. I would much rather see Adventurers/Rock Raiders/Aquazone  than Castle/Space because those are unique themes that really do not have a modern equivalent. For castle, you can still build the same structures with the yellow bricks we see in every set. Something like Bionicle lives or dies on specialized parts; it can't really be recreated without new releases. 

Complements on a well articulated rebuttal.   My vote goes to Castle. I also really wanted western and would have been happy with adventures. In fairness Bionicle kept my Son interested in LEGO a little longer. He also really liked Exo force.  He really liked that "ZOIDS" cartoon (non LEGO) and the whole mech suit genre. If LEGO wanted to show an example of "look how far we've come in 90 years"  from wooden duck to huge technic or a big complex Bionicle, it could get the point across better than another castle. But if they want to build a set that Best represents LEGO in general...Castle it is!