Mark Twain Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 The NYT spent a lot of time visualizing the data about mail slow downs nationally. The charts confirm what we've seen and reported on the board for months. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/14/upshot/is-the-mail-getting-slower-tracker.html 1 Quote
Phil B Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mark Twain said: The NYT spent a lot of time visualizing the data about mail slow downs nationally. The charts confirm what we've seen and reported on the board for months. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/14/upshot/is-the-mail-getting-slower-tracker.html Just for fun - let's compare it with this map: 1 1 Quote
Shortbus311 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Just for fun - let's compare it with this map: Hmmm... eerily similar Quote
House Schubert Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 you aren't implying that there might be some political motive behind severe cost cutting, and inexplicable capacity reduction right before an election, are you?!? That would be almost treasonous... or at the very least a violation of one's oath to the Constitution. Never would that happen in these Democratic United States. Never. Quote
Shortbus311 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 you aren't implying that there might be some political motive behind severe cost cutting, and inexplicable capacity reduction right before an election, are you?!? That would be almost treasonous... or at the very least a violation of one's oath to the Constitution. Never would that happen in these Democratic United States. Never.People still have every right to go vote in person... you know, the way it has been done for the past 250 years. 1 Quote
TANV Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Personally, I just request an absentee ballot and drop it off at the local elections board or drop box if possible, especially during COVID times. Voting should be easy and accessible. Honestly, if Election Day was a Federal Holiday, it'd be nice. 1 Quote
$20 on joe vs dan Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Shortbus311 said: 2 hours ago, House Schubert said: you aren't implying that there might be some political motive behind severe cost cutting, and inexplicable capacity reduction right before an election, are you?!? That would be almost treasonous... or at the very least a violation of one's oath to the Constitution. Never would that happen in these Democratic United States. Never. People still have every right to go vote in person... you know, the way it has been done for the past 250 years. That statement purposefully ignores the Pandemic situation. Many voters are elderly or otherwise at higher risk. Would you tell your elderly parent or grandparent to just go to the nearest in-person voting booth? The mail system is a major player in this election. Quote
House Schubert Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Shortbus311 said: 2 hours ago, House Schubert said: you aren't implying that there might be some political motive behind severe cost cutting, and inexplicable capacity reduction right before an election, are you?!? That would be almost treasonous... or at the very least a violation of one's oath to the Constitution. Never would that happen in these Democratic United States. Never. People still have every right to go vote in person... you know, the way it has been done for the past 250 years. Sure... but there just might be additional reasons that are quite reasonable for a person to want to vote by mail this year... and if I was more interested in winning than Democracy, and... if I knew that fewer total votes probably would give me an advantage, then I might, I just might, really screw up the mail. Quote
Shortbus311 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Sure... but there just might be additional reasons that are quite reasonable for a person to want to vote by mail this year... and if I was more interested in winning than Democracy, and... if I knew that fewer total votes probably would give me an advantage, then I might, I just might, really screw up the mail.I am just saying that no one is going to be stopping anyone from voting in person... specifically in response to the "almost treasonous" and oath to the constitution comments. No where in the constitution does it say that mail in voting is a required option. People crack me up with this stuff... They have no problem going to Walmart or out to eat or marching down the street in protest, but they want to use the pandemic as a excuse not to stand in line to vote. 1 Quote
gmpirate Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shortbus311 said: People crack me up with this stuff... They have no problem going to Walmart or out to eat or marching down the street in protest, but they want to use the pandemic as a excuse not to stand in line to vote. I think people don't want to vote in person because of the masks. That's why protesting and rioting is so popular. No masks or social distancing required. Quote
iahawks550 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 At least the Republicans AND the democrats can agree there will be cheating involved if the other side wins. Guaranteed $hit show. Quote
brickvoyeur Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) The only fools in this argument are the ones who believe any high level (and most of the low level as well) politician actually cares about them or their needs. It's all about money and power. The real trick is making the average person fight each other on their behalf. Why do the hard work of improving things when it is far easier just make the working class hate each other? Edited September 14, 2020 by brickvoyeur Quote
fuzzy_bricks Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Love my small town in flyover country. I don't think I've ever waited in line. On topic of the USPS, why are we all of a sudden acting like they were totally competent and now they're dropping the ball. You can look through lots of posts here about issues with the USPS. I have no idea if the additional delays are on purpose, due to extra packages from Covid, staff issues from Covid, or their standard issues are just getting more attention. Quote
KvHulk Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 I'm just going to say it: I don't really like prime rib. I much prefer skirt steak. 2 Quote
Mathew Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Shortbus311 said: People crack me up with this stuff... They have no problem going to Walmart or out to eat or marching down the street in protest, but they want to use the pandemic as a excuse not to stand in line to vote. The system is rigged. They already know who is going to be president. The **** show is going to be created to cover up their tracks and make us blame each other. Notice how they’ve done it with covid. No idea how a virus can be politicized but they made it happen. Quote
$20 on joe vs dan Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Shortbus311 said: I am just saying that no one is going to be stopping anyone from voting in person... specifically in response to the "almost treasonous" and oath to the constitution comments. No where in the constitution does it say that mail in voting is a required option. People crack me up with this stuff... They have no problem going to Walmart or out to eat or marching down the street in protest, but they want to use the pandemic as a excuse not to stand in line to vote. Your use of "People" assumes inclusive when, in fact, it's most likely different groups altogether. Your point just picks and chooses the different groups and combines them to serve your "narrative" which is the problem w/ news today. Yes, most people shop for groceries...some do it more carefully than others and due to costs/delays...no other choice but to go out. Yes, some folks do go to restaurants...but many (like my households continue to avoid) still don't...it's form of personal risk management Yes...a relative small percentage of US participate in protests Yes all of the above are "people" but your gross simplification is wrong. 1 Quote
Mathew Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 5 hours ago, House Schubert said: Never would that happen in these Democratic United States. Never. Man what rock have you been living under😂 2 hours ago, House Schubert said: I'm out. Yes you are. Quote
iahawks550 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mathew said: The system is rigged. They already know who is going to be president. The **** show is going to be created to cover up their tracks and make us blame each other. Notice how they’ve done it with covid. No idea how a virus can be politicized but they made it happen. Who is going to be president? There are some good betting lines available. Edited September 14, 2020 by iahawks550 Quote
Shortbus311 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Your use of "People" assumes inclusive when, in fact, it's most likely different groups altogether. Your point just picks and chooses the different groups and combines them to serve your "narrative" which is the problem w/ news today. Yes, most people shop for groceries...some do it more carefully than others and due to costs/delays...no other choice but to go out. Yes, some folks do go to restaurants...but many (like my households continue to avoid) still don't...it's form of personal risk management Yes...a relative small percentage of US participate in protests Yes all of the above are "people" but your gross simplification is wrong.You're right, I should have been more specific and said "People" who have no problems going to China Town for parades and festivals, and go to the hair salon but want to use the pandemic as a excuse not to stand in line to vote crack me up.Better? 1 Quote
$20 on joe vs dan Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Shortbus311 said: You're right, I should have been more specific and said "People" who have no problems going to China Town for parades and festivals, and go to the hair salon but want to use the pandemic as a excuse not to stand in line to vote crack me up. Better? much better...and now I agree with that sentiment Quote
$20 on joe vs dan Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, iahawks550 said: Who is going to be president? There are some good betting lines available. One candidate is saying...don't listen to him...go by his record and associations Other is saying...the things he says are terrible on a separate note; I just got a message from my doctor who now has added to his signature his "Preferred pronouns: he, his, him," Quote
Mathew Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, iahawks550 said: Who is going to be president? There are some good betting lines available. All the more reason it’s rigged. Quote
iahawks550 Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Rigged by who? Vegas (that's not how the gambling business works)? Some big bettor? (lol) Quote
Mark Twain Posted September 16, 2020 Author Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Just logged into print off a label eBay. . . this was not here when I printed off a label yesterday. Edit. Nevermind. It's been there for a month and I just now noticed it. Chalk it up to Covid brain. Looks like it's been written about widely, too. https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2020/8/1597724103.html Edited September 16, 2020 by Mark Twain Quote
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