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3 hours ago, Mathew said:

Well said Ed. I can’t watch or read the news anymore.  Too much fear porn as you put it.  

Reading the news nowadays is more akin to data-mining...gotta pick and choose what's actual news and then develop my own interpretation:

Headline = click bait (check)

New Outlet = Political ties (check)

Pictures/images = click bait (check)

Review content, filter out the opinions/assumptions pretending to be facts

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4 hours ago, Pseudoty said:

My state has a critical shortage of reagent so they are only testing the ill which will skew data. A known positive case can’t even get his symptomatic wife tested as it is just assumed she has it. They ordered 5K of the tests pictured but they are serological immunoglobulin POC tests and the FDA froze delivery from Ohio until an emergency waiver was granted as they are not approved. They were checked in last Friday and validated Sunday. Monday of this week they did a drive thru for exposed HCW and first responders and all tests results were negative. Not sure how much money was wasted on them. 

Thank you for sharing your experience. It’s unfortunate we(theUS) are so far behind in our testing and gathering data when we had so much time to prepare. Not to mention our insufficient testing approach is completely flawed as it stands. These stay at home orders will be for naught, it we don’t have an idea of the general infection rate. 

I just feel there is no reason to stand up at the podium each day touting hydroxychloroquin and brag about the job being done while real-time data and facts say otherwise.  
 

I would honestly rather watch fear porn all day than listening to the POTUS tell me it’s raining while pissing all over my boots. 

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5 hours ago, ravenb99 said:

man sign me up for some fear porn,  that sounds exciting...

we have such sights to show you.gif

 

2 hours ago, Mark Twain said:

We know it’s going to be a long quarantine. What if they stop making porn . . . I’ve WATCHED IT ALL!

Oh don't you worry. Even in times of crisis there will always be more. Best to start using the other hand there, Quagmire.

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It’s times like these that I like to think about what leaders of the past said and did with the time and influence they had. Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr., John Kennedy, John Lennon. They and many other true heroes gave their lives to do what was right and just, and for all people not just a few well connected members of any particular elite circle. I think the charts presented in this particular article present what has come and why I and many others feel so betrayed, and find it hard to be proud of the current USA, no matter who happens to be in the White House today or tomorrow.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/10/opinion/coronavirus-us-economy-inequality.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

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On 4/9/2020 at 12:23 PM, $20 on joe vs dan said:

been thinking of raising chickens in the backyard...I hear great things about it

You need to check your local ordinances.  The town I live in in NJ prohibits having any "barn yard" animal living in your yard.  I made a joke about it one time and the person had actually looked into doing it at one point.

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On 4/9/2020 at 11:27 AM, JimboJet said:

And at the same time the Fed releases $2.3B in loan commitments including a new $600M for small businesses to prime the pump.  And the market is holding even today (no trading tomorrow for the Good Friday holiday).  I think the market baked the jobless claims into the 30% the market lost already.

A week ago I mentioned to a friend that March 18 was the low water mark for the Dow Jones.  I think the S&P 500 was a day or two later.  Both have been marching upwards since then.  Some stocks might take a few years to pay off, but there are still some great buys depending on your risk level.

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3 minutes ago, exracer327 said:

A week ago I mentioned to a friend that March 18 was the low water mark for the Dow Jones.  I think the S&P 500 was a day or two later.  Both have been marching upwards since then.  Some stocks might take a few years to pay off, but there are still some great buys depending on your risk level.

I remember back before the late 90s stock market bubble burst, watching this news clip talking about stock performance at that time (let's say 1999) vs stock prices after Black Monday 1987.  I remember being shocked back then at how cheaply stocks were after that crash, and how well they had recovered, just 10-12 years later.

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18 minutes ago, Alpinemaps said:

I remember back before the late 90s stock market bubble burst, watching this news clip talking about stock performance at that time (let's say 1999) vs stock prices after Black Monday 1987.  I remember being shocked back then at how cheaply stocks were after that crash, and how well they had recovered, just 10-12 years later.

It took less than that after 1987. 

My dad had been investing in stocks for my college fund.  He let me make some investments.  I bought 200 shares of a $4 stock.  I watched it for about six months and it went up to $5.50 and in one day dropped to $2 in the '87 crash.  I wanted to buy more but my dad wouldn't let me.  Two years later the same stock was trading @ $8-9/ share.  I ended up selling all of it because I doubled my money.

Fast forward about 10 years and I looked up the same stock just for giggles.  It was now trading at $35 / share.  Oh, it gets better.  It had split 2:1... FOUR TIMES in ten years.  My original $800 investment, had I kept it, would have been worth over $110k.  *sigh* lol

 

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Proof before our eyes capitalism destroys our ecosystems.  Cities and countries acrossed the globe reporting a dramatic increase in air quality.  Kinda sad everyone itching to get back to business as usual. Would be nice to see some changes come out of this whole ordeal, but highly doubt it given humans track record. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/04/09/air-quality-improving-coronavirus/

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/10/831592401/with-coronavirus-lockdown-indias-cities-see-clear-blue-skies-as-air-pollution-dr

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/environment/2020/04/12/coronavirus-stay-home-order-reduces-air-pollution-indianapolis/2969272001/

https://calmatters.org/health/2020/04/as-californians-stay-at-home-air-quality-improves-for-now/

 

Also, that video above, the ZDogg talks a lot of talk with no answers. Guy just loves to hear himself ramble.

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31 minutes ago, BricksBrotha said:

Proof before our eyes capitalism destroys our ecosystems.  Cities and countries acrossed the globe reporting a dramatic increase in air quality.  Kinda sad everyone itching to get back to business as usual. Would be nice to see some changes come out of this whole ordeal, but highly doubt it given humans track record. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/04/09/air-quality-improving-coronavirus/

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/10/831592401/with-coronavirus-lockdown-indias-cities-see-clear-blue-skies-as-air-pollution-dr

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/environment/2020/04/12/coronavirus-stay-home-order-reduces-air-pollution-indianapolis/2969272001/

https://calmatters.org/health/2020/04/as-californians-stay-at-home-air-quality-improves-for-now/

 

Also, that video above, the ZDogg talks a lot of talk with no answers. Guy just loves to hear himself ramble.

Know what else would greatly increase air quality??  Kill off a few million/billion humans🙄  No kidding people not driving and factories being shut down would increase air quality.  Like the video stated overall deaths across the globe are actually down because we're not driving either.  I'm guessing that from your responses after all this you're going to be a changed man and give up driving a car, buying anything from China, drinking, smoking, buying online, selling online, or anything else that might involve a carbon footprint or vice that has a much higher chance of death then this virus?

Have no idea what you mean with him having no answers either.  Video wasn't supposed to have answers.  It's about common sense and why this whole thing is being completely blown out of proportion and being gone about all wrong.  Called opening your eyes and not believing everything the media, celebrities, WHO and Dr ican'tmakeupmymindwhichwayifeeltoday Fauci says.

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37 minutes ago, BricksBrotha said:

Proof before our eyes capitalism destroys our ecosystems.  Cities and countries acrossed the globe reporting a dramatic increase in air quality.  Kinda sad everyone itching to get back to business as usual. Would be nice to see some changes come out of this whole ordeal, but highly doubt it given humans track record. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/04/09/air-quality-improving-coronavirus/

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/10/831592401/with-coronavirus-lockdown-indias-cities-see-clear-blue-skies-as-air-pollution-dr

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/environment/2020/04/12/coronavirus-stay-home-order-reduces-air-pollution-indianapolis/2969272001/

https://calmatters.org/health/2020/04/as-californians-stay-at-home-air-quality-improves-for-now/

 

Also, that video above, the ZDogg talks a lot of talk with no answers. Guy just loves to hear himself ramble.

I think the bigger lesson from this is that even after a relatively short amount of time; noticeable improvements in the environment can be made. I think some folks have a fatalistic (it's too late) view on many of our personal and societal problems such as smoking and pollution...you could be a pack aday smoker for your whole life..stop today and start making real improvements in your lungs/health in a short time...never too late.

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20 minutes ago, jeff_14 said:

Multiple players profiting from one good seems pretty eco friendly. Reduce, reuse, resell! 

So you’re saying that adding an additional middle man is better for the environment. That the fossil fuels burned in transporting a LEGO set an additional two or three times, over thousands of miles is beneficial to our planet. 

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18 minutes ago, jeff_14 said:

Multiple players profiting from one good seems pretty eco friendly. Reduce, reuse, resell! 

Except you know how much of a carbon footprint all that shipping leaves?  We should just get rid of all middle-men and resellers and strictly ship straight from factories to houses by that logic.

1 minute ago, Mathew said:

So you’re saying that adding an additional middle man is better for the environment?  That the extra fossil fuels burned in transporting a LEGO set an additional two or three times, over thousands of miles is beneficial to our planet?

Lol....just beat me to it.

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3 minutes ago, Mathew said:

So you’re saying that adding an additional middle man is better for the environment. That the fossil fuels burned in transporting a LEGO set an additional two or three times, over thousands of miles is beneficial to our planet. 

My profit level easily covers carbon offsets, and keeps me from taking up some other more damaging work. 

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