COVID-19 / Coronavirus Discussion

[Sauromosis]

3 minutes ago, Legojona said:

Virus going to virus. Just like with the Spanish flu after the First World War, when a lot of troops were returning home, we're in a world with a lot of people moving around. I don't think any country will be spared. There is no real way to control a thing like this, so the focus on politics does not really make sense to me. The virus goes unnoticed for a while and then it is already too late.

Ever since we started living together closely and threw animals into the mix, we experienced these kinds of things. 

Let's just hope this fizzles out. In the meantime, stay inside and play with your lego!

Good points...I suspect that it's widespread, we just don't know how to test for it. I bet some Americans have already had it and recovered without knowing.

[NIevo]

2 minutes ago, zmnnch said:

That is the Costco at Honolulu, HI

Iwilei is one of the busiest stores in the company so while that might be busier then normal due to panic, it's not as out of control as you might think for a busy store.  There are some Asian stores that have 2-3 hour wait times just to get into the store on busy days.

[Pseudoty]

35 minutes ago, labfreak7 said:

is that Costco pic for real, or a Black Friday pic?

Yes, just go on Twitter and search Costco you will see live videos from today. I don’t think people stock up on TP during BF except for @exciter1  

[Phil B]

4 minutes ago, sauromosis said:

Good points...I suspect that it's widespread, we just don't know how to test for it. I bet some Americans have already had it and recovered without knowing.

Case in point - one of my Dutch friends just told me that he has an italian colleague (in NL) who had a friend over 2 weeks ago who got sick during his stay (he was from affected area in Italy). Shortly after all the friends he met with got sick. Nobody went to the doctor to get tested for coronavirus - they just let it run its course. There will be many more cases like this - this disease is all around us, all we are hearing are the folks who got too sick to handle on their own, and then the people that got preventatively tested because of that.

[Frank Brickowski]

2 hours ago, brickolodon said:

https://apple.news/A4aoKESRMQoyrqtNmiE6n7g

 

[Ed Mack]

7 minutes ago, Frank Brickowski said:

Good ole' Hand, Foot and Mouth disease.  I got that last year after a trip to Disneyworld.  What a mess as an adult.  My son had it for like 2 days.  I had it for weeks with huge blisters on my feet and hands.  What a mess.  

[Frank Brickowski]

3 minutes ago, Ed Mack said:

Good ole' Hand, Foot and Mouth disease.  I got that last year after a trip to Disneyworld.  What a mess as an adult.  My son had it for like 2 days.  I had it for weeks with huge blisters on my feet and hands.  What a mess.  

And fortunately you survived ... just like 98% of all people infected with "oh so dangerous" Corona will.

The whole issue with this virus is NOT about how dangerous or even infectuous it is (because it is not). Corona just shows us how tightly connected we are globally. And that's about it.

Edited February 29, 2020 by Frank Brickowski

[brickolodon]

1 hour ago, Legojona said:

Virus going to virus. Just like with the Spanish flu after the First World War, when a lot of troops were returning home, we're in a world with a lot of people moving around. I don't think any country will be spared. There is no real way to control a thing like this, so the focus on politics does not really make sense to me. The virus goes unnoticed for a while and then it is already too late.

Ever since we started living together closely and threw animals into the mix, we experienced these kinds of things. 

Let's just hope this fizzles out. In the meantime, stay inside and play with your lego!

Greenland very hard to get sick as i see on Plague.Inc

[elmaslıefendi]

41 minutes ago, Frank Brickowski said:

And fortunately you survived ... just like 98% of all people infected with "oh so dangerous" Corona will.

The whole issue with this virus is NOT about how dangerous or even infectuous it is (because it is not). Corona just shows us how tightly connected we are globally. And that's about it.

I wouldn't overpanic, but I wouldn't underestimate it either. One question to all the pro doctors with exact mortality rates here that have studied this for years: if the virus is as harmless as you guys state... why did the market crash? Why do countries seal off whole cities with millions of people? Why do factories cut off production? Why didn't they cut it off when people had influenza?

This stuff makes no sense at all.

[Frank Brickowski]

1 minute ago, elmaslıefendi said:

I wouldn't overpanic, but I wouldn't underestimate it either. One question to all the pro doctors with exact mortality rates here that have studied this for years: if the virus is as harmless as you guys state... why did the market crash? Why do countries seal off whole cities with millions of people? Why do factories cut off production? Why didn't they cut it off when people had influenza?

This stuff makes no sense at all.

Correct.

[elmaslıefendi]

I'm not saying this thing is the new killer virus but I find it ridiculous how certain people are about the impact & danger this has.

[labfreak7]

Lol, does Hawaii have any cases?

This kind of thing is worthy of being monitored by us all, but the panic that some people are feeling that drives them to stock up on food is silly. The media is good at stirring up frenzies like this.

Looking at that chart, I’m surprised at the high lethality of Bird Flu. 

Edited February 29, 2020 by labfreak7

[brickolodon]

geez i see ppl start to panic mode at least Cali/ anybody. do i need to cancel my regular trip on Monday?

i stocked up on water month ago...and lucky them costco has very good return policy!

Edited February 29, 2020 by brickolodon

[Pseudoty]

48 minutes ago, Frank Brickowski said:

And fortunately you survived ... just like 98% of all people infected with "oh so dangerous" Corona will.

The whole issue with this virus is NOT about how dangerous or even infectuous it is (because it is not). Corona just shows us how tightly connected we are globally. And that's about it.

Exactly for most of us once again it will be the disruptions in the supply chain including life sustaining medications not just TP and hospitals getting overwhelmed. For those of us over 80 and/or with comorbidity not so good. 

[Legojona]

I think the externalities will be pretty big in terms of economy and social life. Even with a death rate of 1/500 under 40, you have to wonder if you would take the risk of going to work or letting your kid go to school. Imagine a company having to choose between closing down the offices when the opposite it that 1 out of 250 of their employees might die as a result of it. 

I stocked up on food because I think a lot of things will be shut down. 

[NIevo]

19 minutes ago, elmaslıefendi said:

I wouldn't overpanic, but I wouldn't underestimate it either. One question to all the pro doctors with exact mortality rates here that have studied this for years: if the virus is as harmless as you guys state... why did the market crash? Why do countries seal off whole cities with millions of people? Why do factories cut off production? Why didn't they cut it off when people had influenza?

This stuff makes no sense at all.

Panic by people who are clueless as to what is actually going on or following others/media who also don't know like sheep.  Same reason there is a shortage of masks although they are basically worthless.

[elmaslıefendi]

Just another tip: Don't tell everyone you stocked up if you did so. You don't want to end up as a first-source neighbour supplier

[brickolodon]

Just another tip: Don't tell everyone you stocked up if you did so. You don't want to end up as a first-source neighbour supplier

Even you are friend with your neighbor? So this is SHTF right there? Already?

[elmaslıefendi]

1 minute ago, brickolodon said:

Even you are friend with your neighbor?

I didn't mean not to help out. I meant don't throw it out there. 

[iahawks550]

I think a person is making a poor choice when there is an opportunity to buy a couple weeks worth of non-perishable items and doesn't. Chance you are quaranteed in your home for two weeks, small. Chance you can use your items you bought later this year after nothing happened, 100%

Edited March 1, 2020 by iahawks550

[brickolodon]

I hope it’s only in a couple of states, CA and OR?

[ravenb99]

52 minutes ago, Pseudoty said:

 For those of us over 80 and/or with comorbidity not so good. 

somewhere in there I am sure there is an old joke...

[NIevo]

36 minutes ago, brickolodon said:

I hope it’s only in a couple of states, CA and OR?

Well the only death so far has been in WA so obviously it's spread much wider then that.

[Cathy G]

Don't waste $$ on masks...  

  

 

 

[jaisonline]

I don’t need any darn mask. We have Norton and some Harry & the Hendersons old guy.