COVID-19 / Coronavirus Discussion

[Ed Mack]

 

 

[Mathew]

6 hours ago, BricksBrotha said:

This will not kill Main Street. Some businesses near us have already adapted either through offering curbside or delivery. Sure some will suffer or go away, but during times like these natural selection will be abundant. 

If under the correct right guidance, kids should be learning a hell of a lot from this.
 

I can't agree with this.  Some businesses have the ability to adapt while others will fail due to the circumstances.  People will then lose jobs.   Point me to where Darwin talks about surviving under draconian government orders.

"...under the correct right guidance..."  Sure if they have parents who DON'T have to work.  My wife is an elementary teacher and so far she has been able to work with our kids on some home schooling. And explain how parents who are forced to work from home and without necessary child care are supposed to take care of their children. Unfortunately due to the circumstances most kids will be put in front of video games and tablets for most of the day.  Their only socializing will consist of instant messaging.  

[brickolodon]

Success of South Korea was a lot of testing. I see here in LAS many ppl not take precautions and still going for a hikes with kids and fam members, strip closed but many ppl around in shops...

[BrickLegacy]

Ohio Governor DeWine just issued a stay at home order.  Their website with the order details crashed though.  

[Bold-Arrow]

I hope my district wins 

[iahawks550]

11 minutes ago, brickolodon said:

 I see here in LAS many ppl not take precautions and still going for a hikes with kids and fam members, 

There is nothing wrong with taking your family outside during this. 

[$20 on joe vs dan]

13 minutes ago, brickolodon said:

Success of South Korea was a lot of testing. I see here in LAS many ppl not take precautions and still going for a hikes with kids and fam members, strip closed but many ppl around in shops...

what's wrong with going for a walk/hike w/ your kids?

[Ed Mack]

China's factories are ramping back up...Notice the increase the last week.

 

[Darth_Raichu]

37 minutes ago, Ed Mack said:

China's factories are ramping back up...Notice the increase the last week.

 

 

too soon?? She should have sailed to China to shame those evil NO2 producers

On a serious note, who's going to buy all of the craps made in China when the economies all over the world are on break / crashed / destroyed due to Covid ?

[$20 on joe vs dan]

I read a bit of Dr. Fauci's bio and I think he's both legit and on point overall, but even he is subject to the White-House agenda of disproportionally accepting credit and deflecting blame.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fauci-u-s-looking-very-closely-severe-coronavirus-symptoms-younger-n1166026

"I mean obviously things are unpredictable, you can't make any definitive statement, but if you look at the dynamics of the outbreak in Italy, we don't know why they are suffering so terribly, but there is a possibility that many of us believe that early on they did not shutout the input of infections that originated in China and came to other parts of the world," Fauci said before touting the Trump administration's move to restrict travel from China, and then parts of Europe, earlier this year.

"Again, I don't know why this is happening [in Italy] to such an extent," Fauci said. "But once you get so many of these spreads out, they spread exponentially and you can never keep up with this tsunami. And I think that's what our colleagues and unfortunately our dear friends in Italy are facing."

Italy was "so overwhelmed from the beginning," Fauci said, "that they can't play catch up."

If I recall correctly almost every country was closing themselves off from China...Trump did what was both obvious and and the norm at that time; yet he is being lauded for "saving us" from the same fate as Italy.  IN the above, Fauci is making it seem like plane-fulls of infected Chinese travellers landed in Italy and triggered their CV crisis. 

Fauci is doing a lot of good and seems to have America's trust...I see the above as him throwing the administration a bone so they can get off his back about their PR points so he can focus on solving the problem.

[Mathew]

1 hour ago, Ed Mack said:

China's factories are ramping back up...Notice the increase the last week.

 

Apple released new iPads and MacBooks last week and they are already shipping. Foxconn must’ve been ready to go for this fast of a turn around. 

[labfreak7]

13 hours ago, legos4me said:

as for my case I was sitting as a small gathering  2 weeks ago  and spent a long time talking to someone next to me .

He called me a couple of days later that he is not feeling well and went in for a test. when I tried to get a test they refused me unless I had contact with a confirmed case or was over 60 .By the time the results came back for this person (it took 6 days because the labs were so backed up) they were no longer giving tests even if you had a confirmed contact they just told me to assume I have it

slightly less then 5 days after my exposure(reading online it seems that is the average incubation period ) I came down with fever and a cough for 2 days and then felt totally better. I have yet to receive guidance to at what point I am no longer contagious to others .I have asked 3 different medical personal and received 3 different answers. I think that they really have no idea.I  was told 14 days from my exposure ,14 days from when I exhibited symptoms or 48 hours from when I felt better 

Also the assumption seems to be that once you get it you can't get it again but nobody really knows for sure

 

As I had said once before, I think I had it in February. Additionally, a family member was exposed to someone later confirmed infected, and she was never told to quarantine. We never quarantined either. Never been tested. We are probably all infected in NY with most asymptomatic.

[labfreak7]

On 3/21/2020 at 12:01 AM, NIevo said:

No it's not, not even close.  You can take the number of infected and essentially quadruple it and still probably won't be near what actual infected number are.

The whole thing is a serious overreaction and a joke at this point on how countries are handling it.

If you have a $3000k mortgage bases on the current plans you aren't going to even be getting a relief check.

Don’t think that’s accurate. In fact, that is the most uninformed, ignorant asinine post I have seen in a long time. You obviously don’t know how people live outside of your little world .🥱The relief checks should go to the hardest hit. 15,000 cases in NY. It is probably close to 15 million. We are not being tested. It is affecting everyone here. People are losing jobs left and right. Cost of living is the highest here, and a lot of us have no way to make a living now.

The states with a handful of cases don’t need relief. No offense to you, but it’s true.

Edited March 22, 2020 by labfreak7

[NIevo]

12 minutes ago, labfreak7 said:

Don’t think that’s accurate. In fact, that is the most uninformed, ignorant asinine post I have seen in a long time. You obviously don’t know how people live outside of your little world .🥱The relief checks should go to the hardest hit. 15,000 cases in NY. It is probably close to 15 million. We are not being tested. It is affecting everyone here. People are losing jobs left and right. Cost of living is the highest here, and a lot of us have no way to make a living now.

The states with a handful of cases don’t need relief. No offense to you, but it’s true.

Lol....apparently your to uninformed and ignorant to even comprehend what I wrote but hey.....you're a New Yorker so.......🤣

Maybe if your crap Liberal gov. wasn't so bad you wouldn't be so "hard hit".

And your on a LEGO investing site.  If you can't be making money through this then that's your problem.

[KvHulk]

All I hear is...

Edited March 22, 2020 by KvHulk

[House Schubert]

7 hours ago, Ed Mack said:

Yep...No doubt.  Whether you love or hate the president, most have to admit that this crisis was ignored because of impeachment.  Now, they are attacking him for this crisis ad nauseam. Time for all of us to work together here.  

Well... Respectfully, because I am a guest in your home...But, I think it is more accurate to say that the President ignored the potential crisis, because he is way out of his league, and he didn't see the political upside to spending time on it. 

Additionally, it has been reported that he saw focusing on testing as a political liability.  I don't see any way to be aware of the facts of the disease timeline, AND the President's laughably inaccurate, magical thinking statements during that timeline, and not come to the conclusion that the Administration badly mismanaged this crisis, namely with regard to early testing, and that because of that significantly more people will die.  

Edited March 22, 2020 by House Schubert
Capitalize President and removed a comma

[JOEBRICK376]

I don't know about Ed's opinion, but perhaps this thread would be more productive and conducive if we reverted away from the political attacks and discussion and talked about how we (realistically) as both an online community and members of our respective physical communities, could come together and help the people who's lives have already been disrupted by this. 

 

for example one of my favorite charities to contribute to (and by far the most productive with a $ I've seen) is www.ripmedicaldebt.org 

 

With thousands of people facing unexpected medical bills due to this situation perhaps this might interest some of you to contribute. 

 

Any other helpful thoughts on how to face this as a unified nation/community? 

 

 

[NIevo]

4 minutes ago, House Schubert said:

Well... Respectfully, because I am a guest in your home...But, I think it is more accurate to say that the President ignored the potential crisis, because he is way out of his league, and he didn't see the political upside to spending time on it. 

Additionally, it has been reported that he saw focusing on testing as a political liability.  I don't see any way to be aware of the facts of the disease timeline, AND the President's laughably inaccurate, magical thinking statements during that timeline, and not come to the conclusion that the Administration badly mismanaged this crisis, namely with regard to early testing, and that because of that significantly more people will die.  

Or maybe they didn't want it to turn into the laughably overhyped, overblown and panic inducing shitshow that the media has produced.

[Alpinemaps]

Well, I will say that I can see if you lean one way politically, you’re opinion of the way the President has handled things will lean in a similar direction.

Hard to argue that Impeachment took up a lot of attention by everyone, tho.

[labfreak7]

39 minutes ago, NIevo said:

Lol....apparently your to uninformed and ignorant to even comprehend what I wrote but hey.....you're a New Yorker so.......🤣

Maybe if your crap Liberal gov. wasn't so bad you wouldn't be so "hard hit".

And your on a LEGO investing site.  If you can't be making money through this then that's your problem.

I understood your post. As someone with a Master’s degree in medical biology, I’d like to think that I am not ignorant. And, I am very proud to call myself a New Yorker. Judging from your grammar, I doubt that your’s meets my credentials. You are judging my eligibility for relief based on my mortgage. You assume that I am making six figures I suppose. I can assure you that I am not. And no, I am not making money from LEGO, because I am not actively selling my collection. You know what they say about people who make ASSumptions don’t you?? 
Getting back to the New Yorker jab, we will recover from this as we have from any other disaster, so I shrug off your incendiary remarks.

Edited March 22, 2020 by labfreak7

[Bold-Arrow]

 

[NIevo]

17 minutes ago, Alpinemaps said:

Well, I will say that I can see if you lean one way politically, you’re opinion of the way the President has handled things will lean in a similar direction.

Hard to argue that Impeachment took up a lot of attention by everyone, tho.

Impeachment wasted a lot of time regardless of the virus or not. 

[brickolodon]

3 hours ago, iahawks550 said:

There is nothing wrong with taking your family outside during this. 

why gov ask to stay home? may be nothing wrong with taking fam somewhere else too?

[NIevo]

11 minutes ago, labfreak7 said:

I understood your post. As someone with a Master’s degree in medical biology, I’d like to think that I am not ignorant. And, I am very proud to call myself a New Yorker. Judging from your grammar, I doubt that your’s meets my credentials. You are judging my eligibility for relief based on my mortgage. You assume that I am making six figures I suppose. I can assure you that I am not. And no, I am not making money from LEGO, because I am not actively selling my collection. You know what they say about people who make ASSumptions don’t you?? 
Getting back to the New Yorker jab, we will recover from this as we have from any other disaster, so I shrug off your incendiary remarks.

Could care less what degree's or credentials you have but good for you I guess??  I learned a long time ago just because someone is book smart or has this degree or that degree doesn't mean they have real world smarts or knows crap about anything outside their area of expertise.  Wasn't making any assumptions, just stating the fact that if you are complaining about not working there are things you could be doing other then sitting on the internet whining on a site that is geared toward helping people make money especially right now, or you really aren't that hard up.

I was judging eligibility bases on what the Gov. has said criteria will be and knowing that if you don't make 6 figures and have a $3k+ mortgage then you are either getting help or living way outside your means.  Wasn't picking on any one group whether working or not and regardless of income.

 

3 minutes ago, brickolodon said:

why gov ask to stay home? may be nothing wrong with taking fam somewhere else too?

Difference between taking family outside to a crowded concert or crowded beach type setting and going out for a nice walk or to a park to get sunshine and fresh air.

[crayxlp]

12 hours ago, benjamin4172 said:

Oh wait did I express that I do not take it serious in your opinion? Or do I just not understand due to language issues. I take it very serious. And you are absolutely right with that there are a looooot of dumb people who just dont get the seriousness of the Problem and behave like there is nothing to worry about. I recently spoke to some former camerades of mine. We all came to the conclusion, people here are just too spoiled and cannot process mentaly that **** will be going down. They lived a live in wealth and abundance.

I did not mean to insult you personally - but in general .. well the "spoiled Germans" .. more or less what you said.