Brickshopper Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Can someone give us an f5 opportunity on some Clorox/Lysol wipes or useful items at amazon. Might be fun I know a lot of people here have scripts but many used to have to f5 to get Lego deals. In the before times. Maybe someone can post apocalypse deals not the 50 gallon drum of BBQ Sauce or lube please. Thanks Edited March 22, 2020 by Brickshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudoty Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Ed Mack said: Another very worthwhile read... https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894 And now debunked https://twitter.com/ct_bergstrom/status/1241522140559503360?s=21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pseudoty said: And now debunked https://twitter.com/ct_bergstrom/status/1241522140559503360?s=21 Twitter Debunking lol. Seriously the original article was removed which means that it probably contains more truth than the governors want you to hear. Free speech doesn’t exist in this environment of fear mongering. Google the article. It’s a good read and I agree with the author. This is going to kill Main Street, lots of people will lose jobs and children will miss out out on important development and learning. Edited March 22, 2020 by Mathew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legos4me Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) as someone living in the ny area i can tell you that as of right now in my immediate area they are not testing anyone under 60 period. You can have exposure to a confirmed case and they will not test you.The only exception is if you are really sick. This would seem to indicate that the numbers will be very off because a significant percent of people that have it will not get tested so the percent of people hospitalized etc. will be really off Edited March 22, 2020 by legos4me remove something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$20 on joe vs dan Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, legos4me said: as someone living in the ny area i can tell you that as of right now in my immediate area they are not testing anyone under 60 period. You can have exposure to a confirmed case and they will not test you.The only exception is if you are really sick. This would seem to indicate that the numbers will be very off because a significant percent of people that have it will not get tested so the percent of people hospitalized etc. will be really off On a personal not ei am 99 percent sure i had/have it. I had significant exposure to a confirmed case and had all the symptoms but could not get a test. I was told that it is irrelevant because either way i should recover at home. so i should not waste a test. good luck and thanks for posting very little info on those that went thru symptoms and recovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$20 on joe vs dan Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, legos4me said: On a personal not ei am 99 percent sure i had/have it. I had significant exposure to a confirmed case and had all the symptoms but could not get a test. I was told that it is irrelevant because either way i should recover at home. so i should not waste a test. also keep this in mind: "They say, 'Hey, you know, I think I'm getting over this,' and then within 20 to 24 hours, they've got fevers, severe fatigue, worsening cough and shortness of breath," said Ohl, an infectious disease expert and professor of medicine at the Wake Forest School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. "Then they get hospitalized." https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/slow-burn-coronavirus-symptoms-often-linger-worsening-n1164756 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legojona Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Some news from the Netherlands. Most people are getting pretty scared here, but many are also not taking it too seriously. My family mostly stays indoors and keeps distance from people, except my sister and her husband who are both working at a hospital in the big city. We had a zoom call with the whole family today and what they told us is pretty scary. In the Netherlands we will likely within 2 weeks have a huge spike in Intensive Care (IC) cases that will overflow the system. This has many side effects that are the reason the situation is so dire: - Mortalility rate of severe cases is really high and they are on IC for 2-4 weeks. This is much longer than people are usually in IC - Other people that need IC will not be able to when it is full. -Many people will be able not receive necessary treatment which on a population scale will lead to additional deaths - Life extension treatments for older people and people with terminal illnesses are already shutting down. This whole crisis reminds me of something I saw happening at a beach in Portugal years back. On this beach there is a pier that extends into the sea with a beach next to it. I could stand on top of this pier and see most of the beach from top-down. The tide was coming in, but people were still sitting very close to the water and did not move away. Some people, mostly mothers, were already moving their blankets and stuff further down the beach, but others remained at their spot. (this was not a busy beach, so easy to get a new spot). The water was getting closer and closer, but people did not budge. You could see people getting slightly wet that still kept lying at their spot, until suddenly, a big wave came in and all the people close to the water got drenched and had to scrape to save their stuff. This happened every day (I was planning my beach walks around specific times for this. Does this make me a bad person? ) This showed to me that even things that are super easy to predict, the tide for example :), are still hard to grasp for many people. In short, we're going to learn a hard lesson here and hopefully be more like the people that prepare before it happens. Stay safe all! Build some sets (I build palace cinema yesterday) and see you on the other end! We all knew this could happen some day, so let's hope we can get through it in an okay shape. Avoid direct contact with the elderly and distance from people in general. SHARING IS NOT CARING 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legos4me Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 from the Washington post I guess this is the reason they refuse to test anyone under 60 New York City’s Daskalakis said people with a manageable fever and cough who aren’t at high risk for severe illness should assume they have covid-19. Seeking a test exposes health care workers administering them and wastes resources, since nothing would change for those individuals based on their results, he said. There is no approved treatment for the disease. A “negative” test could also provide false reassurance as covid-19 has become widespread, he said. When one of his patients with symptoms — who sought a test against his advice — got a negative result, Daskalakis told the person to presume he had the disease anyway and to isolate himself. New York’s Mount Sinai Hospital, which treated the state’s first coronavirus case, is testing only a minority of the hundred-plus patients with respiratory symptoms who come to the emergency department each day, said Jolion McGreevy, the emergency department medical director. AD “The default assumption is yes — anyone who comes in with any kind of fever, cough, respiratory symptom, flu-like illness, we’re making the assumption that they have this,” he said, based on the prevalence of community transmission in New York. “It’s very likely you have it. There’s no benefit for you to test.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legos4me Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) as for my case I was sitting as a small gathering 2 weeks ago and spent a long time talking to someone next to me . He called me a couple of days later that he is not feeling well and went in for a test. when I tried to get a test they refused me unless I had contact with a confirmed case or was over 60 .By the time the results came back for this person (it took 6 days because the labs were so backed up) they were no longer giving tests even if you had a confirmed contact they just told me to assume I have it slightly less then 5 days after my exposure(reading online it seems that is the average incubation period ) I came down with fever and a cough for 2 days and then felt totally better. I have yet to receive guidance to at what point I am no longer contagious to others .I have asked 3 different medical personal and received 3 different answers. I think that they really have no idea.I was told 14 days from my exposure ,14 days from when I exhibited symptoms or 48 hours from when I felt better Also the assumption seems to be that once you get it you can't get it again but nobody really knows for sure Edited March 22, 2020 by legos4me clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legojona Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, legos4me said: as for my case I was sitting as a small gathering 2 weeks ago and spent a long time talking to someone next to me . He called me a couple of days later that he is not feeling well and went in for a test. when I tried to get a test they refused me unless I had contact with a confirmed case or was over 60 .By the time the results came back for this person (it took 6 days because the labs were so backed up) they were no longer giving tests even if you had a confirmed contact they just told me to assume I have it slightly less then 5 days after my exposure(reading online it seems that is the average incubation period ) I came down with fever and a cough for 2 days and then felt totally better. I have yet to receive guidance to at what point I am no longer contagious to others .I have asked 3 different medical personal and received 3 different answers. I think that they really have no idea.I was told 14 days from my exposure ,14 days from when I exhibited symptoms or 48 hours from when I felt better Also the assumption seems to be that once you get it you can't get it again but nobody really knows for sure And did that person get a positive result from the Corona test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin4172 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 9 hours ago, crayxlp said: Nice.. now I know why your folks in Bavoria make a fun of it, refuse to wear anything over their mouth and generally sit around at the sidewalks drinking beer.. nice touch! You have over 20.000 infected and you will get at least 500.00 with this approach. Your IMBECILE ppl in Bavaria led the local government into declaring house quarantine. Oh wait did I express that I do not take it serious in your opinion? Or do I just not understand due to language issues. I take it very serious. And you are absolutely right with that there are a looooot of dumb people who just dont get the seriousness of the Problem and behave like there is nothing to worry about. I recently spoke to some former camerades of mine. We all came to the conclusion, people here are just too spoiled and cannot process mentaly that **** will be going down. They lived a live in wealth and abundance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin4172 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Btw I really appreciate that "normal" people dont wear masks and just keep their Distance and do everything else that is reommended. So the Medical personel has the masks right where they need them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BricksBrotha Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Mathew said: and I agree with the author. This is going to kill Main Street, lots of people will lose jobs and children will miss out out on important development and learning. This will not kill Main Street. Some businesses near us have already adapted either through offering curbside or delivery. Sure some will suffer or go away, but during times like these natural selection will be abundant. Could you imagine if this Virus was more deadly or even air born? Darwin says those ignoring the caution signs would be the first to go. I tend to agree with him after witnessing people’s actions reactions this week. If under the correct right guidance, kids should be learning a hell of a lot from this. There is a big difference between panicking and acting calm while this situation plays out. Humans may have many pitfalls, but we are resilient. We have made it through worse, and will we get through this global Pandemic, together. Distanced more than 6ft apart, but together nonetheless. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legos4me Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Legojona said: And did that person get a positive result from the Corona test? yes he was positive and based on my exposure to him and my symptoms I was told by local medical personal to just assume I have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Pseudoty said: And now debunked https://twitter.com/ct_bergstrom/status/1241522140559503360?s=21 It's all opinion. I thought it was a worthwhile read. I'm not passing judgement. I read and recommend all sorts of articles. I am trying to be more upbeat than some. What I can tell you is that the media is biased and love to hype this virus because death and drama sells. Johns Hopkins Coronavirus tracker? That is just f*cked up if you think about it. There is so much false information out there. People are looking at Italy as what is to come here, yet there are now questions as to how Italian officials are classifying deaths and enforcing policies. The truth lies somewhere in between. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudoty Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: It's all opinion. I thought it was a worthwhile read. I'm not passing judgement. I read and recommend all sorts of articles. I am trying to be more upbeat than some. What I can tell you is that the media is biased and love to hype this virus because death and drama sells. Johns Hopkins Coronavirus tracker? That is just f*cked up if you think about it. There is so much false information out there. People are looking at Italy as what is to come here, yet there are now questions as to how Italian officials are classifying deaths and enforcing policies. The truth lies somewhere in between. It was an opinion piece but some like Fox News were representing it as scientific evidence based on facts. Agreed there is so much false information in both directions. The one thing that gets me about the MSM is that originally nobody was covering it. You could watch multiple first hand reports out of Wuhan on Twitter and YouTube for 3 weeks before there was any coverage on the nightly news. Nothing not one story because all they were covering was the impeachment. Perhaps if more people knew what was going on earlier they could have been better prepared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 7 hours ago, legos4me said: from the Washington post I guess this is the reason they refuse to test anyone under 60 New York City’s Daskalakis said people with a manageable fever and cough who aren’t at high risk for severe illness should assume they have covid-19. Seeking a test exposes health care workers administering them and wastes resources, since nothing would change for those individuals based on their results, he said. There is no approved treatment for the disease. A “negative” test could also provide false reassurance as covid-19 has become widespread, he said. When one of his patients with symptoms — who sought a test against his advice — got a negative result, Daskalakis told the person to presume he had the disease anyway and to isolate himself. New York’s Mount Sinai Hospital, which treated the state’s first coronavirus case, is testing only a minority of the hundred-plus patients with respiratory symptoms who come to the emergency department each day, said Jolion McGreevy, the emergency department medical director. AD “The default assumption is yes — anyone who comes in with any kind of fever, cough, respiratory symptom, flu-like illness, we’re making the assumption that they have this,” he said, based on the prevalence of community transmission in New York. “It’s very likely you have it. There’s no benefit for you to test.” Yet most information I have seen says over 90% of people that come in for tests are negative and have other respiratory issues like colds or hay fever. Way to stoke the fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pseudoty said: It was an opinion piece but some like Fox News were representing it as scientific evidence based on facts. Agreed there is so much false information in both directions. The one thing that gets me about the MSM is that originally nobody was covering it. You could watch multiple first hand reports out of Wuhan on Twitter and YouTube for 3 weeks before there was any coverage on the nightly news. Nothing not one story because all they were covering was the impeachment. Perhaps if more people knew what was going on earlier they could have been better prepared. Yep...No doubt. Whether you love or hate the president, most have to admit that this crisis was ignored because of impeachment. Now, they are attacking him for this crisis ad nauseam. Time for all of us to work together here. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvHulk Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Wuhan was all over the news during january. By january 15th they were already reporting the first American infected in Wuhan. But yeah... Edited March 22, 2020 by KvHulk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 A study done on Chloroquine by top French doctors... https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nami Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 A little tasteful humor during this somber discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mack Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, nami said: A little tasteful humor during this somber discussion. I would buy that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudoty Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, KvHulk said: Wuhan was all over the news during january. By january 15th they were already reporting the first American infected in Wuhan. But yeah... Here is a replay of ABC world news the day after and not a mention of anything. They even have a medical segment but on Sepsis. But yeah... https://abc.com/shows/world-news-tonight/episode-guide/2020-01/16-thursday-jan-16-2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KvHulk Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Pseudoty said: Here is a replay of ABC world news the day after and not a mention of anything. They even have a medical segment but on Sepsis. But yeah... https://abc.com/shows/world-news-tonight/episode-guide/2020-01/16-thursday-jan-16-2020 Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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