60197 - Passenger Train

[exciter1]

60197 - Passenger Train

[minicoopers11]

Almost looks the draft paint scheme for California High Speed Rail.

[exciter1]

5 minutes ago, minicoopers11 said:

Almost looks the draft paint scheme for California High Speed Rail.

I definitely prefer this over the white and red ones.

[Phil B]

I definitely prefer this over the white and red ones.

Look at the German ICE trains to see where they got their inspiration from....

[mudcatsfan]

very attractive set. Great color scheme.

Also like that it doesn't have 2 front ends to it like the previous white one. This one, you could purchase 2 sets and have an impressive train with 4 passenger cars. With the last one you end up with a bunch of extra false engines.

[exciter1]

3 minutes ago, Phil B said:

7 minutes ago, exciter1 said:

I definitely prefer this over the white and red ones.

Look at the German ICE trains to see where they got their inspiration from....

I knew those trains are what they were based on, but I do prefer this color scheme.  I also agree it's nice to have 2 passenger cars.

[Phil B]

Yes, and for the freight train it is awesome to see 16 straights in the base set

[MusiKyle]

Made a comparison photo for convenience

[richiej1979]

Looking forward to finding out the cost, I think the last one was released in 2014 so by my reckoning this end up being around £160.

[tacsniper]

Interesting... the new set provides 2 cars of cabins instead of 2 ends. Does anyone know which train this is based on?

[hockeyweasel]

The middle one has coffee cup dining car stickers between windows and the rear one has passenger seat stickers, so I guess we can expect their cabin configuration to be different.  Won't just be "2x" in the instruction booklet.

Edited May 16, 2018 by hockeyweasel

[MusiKyle]

51 minutes ago, richiej1979 said:

Looking forward to finding out the cost, I think the last one was released in 2014 so by my reckoning this end up being around £160.

I thought I remembered reading the new sets were being priced roughly $20-30 over the RRP of the current ones, respectively.  60051 was $149.99USD and 60052 was $199.99USD, so we might expect 60197 to be $169.99USD and 60198 to be $229.99USD?  Just an estimate.

[Val-E]

130 and 190 euros.

[Guest TabbyBoy]

Half a train like Horizon Express. I hope the RRP is high so that it doesn't affect 60051 too much as I was stupid enough to buy a couple at £65 each.

I know wonder if there'll be a new station and how hoarded it will be.

[Phil B]

Half a train like Horizon Express. I hope the RRP is high so that it doesn't affect 60051 too much as I was stupid enough to buy a couple at £65 each.
I know wonder if there'll be a new station and how hoarded it will be.

You as a Brit should be happy, the new station is Kings Cross station

[richiej1979]

21 minutes ago, TabbyBoy said:

Half a train like Horizon Express. I hope the RRP is high so that it doesn't affect 60051 too much as I was stupid enough to buy a couple at £65 each.

I know wonder if there'll be a new station and how hoarded it will be.

 I got one at £55, also hoping this will be expensive.

[Val-E]

130 euros.

[Guest TabbyBoy]

50 minutes ago, Val-E said:

130 euros.

£119.99 then? Of course, it'll be £79.99 before we know it.

[richiej1979]

29 minutes ago, TabbyBoy said:

£119.99 then? Of course, it'll be £79.99 before we know it.

That's my concern too. You never know though, if the new power functions are rubbish then we may get lucky.

[Guest TabbyBoy]

10 minutes ago, richiej1979 said:

That's my concern too. You never know though, if the new power functions are rubbish then we may get lucky.

Lego have cocked up a lot recently so hopefully this is another one ?

[Val-E]

If there is no backward compatibility the old PF will appreciate.

[crayxlp]

9 hours ago, MusiKyle said:

Made a comparison photo for convenience

I dont know.. (how to put some voting system here).. but am i the only one who thinks that the 60051 design is sleek and much cooler than some "suburban" 60197?

EVEN the box art of 60061 gives you much more feeling of having "something exclusive" .. the picture area depicting the train is much larger.. practically no borders.. stretching from side to side (so to speak). while the box art of 60197 gets you the fixed break / barrier with a totally stupid City header motive.. which just further diminishes the "exclusive feeling" of having something truly superb.. BIG.. . no you just get some ordinary set.

60051 set (design) 5 *****
60197 set (design) 3 ***

Edited May 16, 2018 by crayxlp

[Guest TabbyBoy]

13 hours ago, crayxlp said:

I dont know.. (how to put some voting system here).. but am i the only one who thinks that the 60051 design is sleek and much cooler than some "suburban" 60197?

EVEN the box art of 60061 gives you much more feeling of having "something exclusive" .. the picture area depicting the train is much larger.. practically no borders.. stretching from side to side (so to speak). while the box art of 60197 gets you the fixed break / barrier with a totally stupid City header motive.. which just further diminishes the "exclusive feeling" of having something truly superb.. BIG.. . no you just get some ordinary set.

60051 set (design) 5 *****
60197 set (design) 3 ***

I prefer 60051 too. I can't accept half a train with no arse end ?

[Val-E]

Here´s a review of the new PF 2.0 parts for all the train guys.

 

[Val-E]

After watching these reviews, I am seriously considering stocking up on old PF as people will prefer them for less batteries, more power and the polarity switch. Plus you can connect more than 2 devices.