41191 - Naida & The Water Turtle Ambush

[brickvoyeur]

New molds for the large turtle parts. The small turtle looks to be a recolored model from the Friends sets. Not sure it will have as much drawing power as the dragons, but should be solid if you get it at a good price.

[Val-E]

kids will want the baby turtle.

[Furious_george]

Think I should buy more water dragons.

[Villager Chris]

I like it - looks like a hit to me rather than a turtle disaster. 

Apologies, couldn't resist. 

[Val-E]

There was no porpoise to that joke.

[Villager Chris]

Perhaps a good set to shell out on. 

[Villager Chris]

On a serious note, if you look at Amazon seller prices for the whole range, is there such a thing as a bad Elves set? 

[exciter1]

1 minute ago, Villager Chris said:

On a serious note, if you look at Amazon seller prices for the whole range, is there such a thing as a bad Elves set? 

Crystal Mine ain't doing so great.

[Val-E]

3 minutes ago, Villager Chris said:

On a serious note, if you look at Amazon seller prices for the whole range, is there such a thing as a bad Elves set? 

Don´t get me started.

Series 1 are pretty sketchy apart from Bakery, Naida´s Spa and the other little set ending in  a 1.

Series 2 we know about  and the Mine and Dragon School are no great shakes

Seeing as people from as far afield as US, Australia and Europe are now all Elves experts, I´d say series 3 won´t do great due to overhoarding.

[TheOrcKing]

Ah, how scute. Thank goodness it isn't yet another shellicopter otherwise the outlook would be very beak I say.

[Fenix_2k1]

7 minutes ago, Val-E said:

Don´t get me started.

Series 1 are pretty sketchy apart from Bakery, Naida´s Spa and the other little set ending in  a 1.

Series 2 we know about  and the Mine and Dragon School are no great shakes

Seeing as people from as far afield as US, Australia and Europe are now all Elves experts, I´d say series 3 won´t do great due to overhoarding.

I think the Dragons have been very central to the success. S1 only became popular once people bought into the dragons of Series 2. Series 3 they've tried to sell idea of a goblins theme as the collectible element but they had to include a dragon as a banker. 2018 they've moved onto weird bat creatures and buildable creatures but they still can't drop the dragons. 

I don't think the theme will fall due to hoarding. I personally think it will fail because it's no longer dragon centric. 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Fenix_2k1

[Villager Chris]

Not sure it is dragons. Starlight Inn is a brilliant performer (with a baby dragon) but Elvendale School isn't doing so great (also a baby dragon). 

I think it's a simple case of variation in production numbers. With that in mind, early indications are that 41181 will deliver strong % growth, based on fewer sellers on Ebay/Amazon. That said, 300% of £9 in a year's time is not a lot of money so people probably haven't bought it, so the price goes up more. Head spinner I know! 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Villager Chris

[Val-E]

41181 was the first to retire and didn´t need a SAH discount. 

41177 had the same life as Dragon Sanctuary and a baby dragon but seems to have been produced in bigger numbers. Perhaps a comparison with 75150 or the Friends Snow SUV....

[Leopard]

I actually like the 41191 as a investment when it goes on sale, the turtle will attract the kids.

 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Leopard

[Brian Briggs]

On 29.12.2017 at 3:29 PM, Villager Chris said:

Not sure it is dragons. Starlight Inn is a brilliant performer (with a baby dragon) but Elvendale School isn't doing so great (also a baby dragon).

Don't forget that the baby dragon in 41173 Elvendale School of Dragons was a repeat from 41077 Aira's Pegasus Sleigh (which isn't doing great either). So if demand would primarily originate from the inlusion of baby dragons the repeat would split the demand between two sets.

[Simon74]

I guess the baby dragon has to come with the egg then.