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75192 - UCS: Millennium Falcon 2017


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When will you buy your first 75192 UCS Falcon?  

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  1. 1. When will you buy your first 75192 UCS Falcon?

    • First day VIP early access purchase.
    • 2x VIP promo in October 2017.
    • Wait for discount of between 10%-19%.
    • Wait for discount between 20%-29%.
    • Wait for discount of at least 30%.
    • Wait until it shows solid signs of retiring.
    • No plans to buy this set.


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9 hours ago, CM4Sci said:

I just read on Facebook from someone who talked to some LEGO reps, they said that those who waited for double VIP points (me!) are probably out of luck and all of the backorders won't be done until Nov 8th at the earliest.

Damn it!

I saw that yesterday and didn't post it here.  Just more "I heard something from a Lego store employee" without proof.  I wouldn't be surprised if it came true.   It's common sense.  

After the initial wave of the herd and SW/ Lego loyalists buy these, this set will start collecting dust and go on sale.  People bulked at overspending $200+ on a cool walking / remote control Rogue One AT-ACT toy last XMAS season so we can assume $800 for a Lego set is sorta comparable.  Same happened with the Tumbler, many CUUSOO  sets, exclusives, etc...  even 10179 couldn't even pretty much be given away unless it was on-sale for 25% or better.

On a diff note, I find it interesting that many folks (especially on twitter & Facebook)  are surprised this set was so hard to buy and is sold-out.  It was obvious this was going to happen(based on the history of 10179, the vast # of die hard AFOLs and SW fans and past popular Lego set launches).  Everyone should have also foresaw Lego web site getting crushed because (by history) they either have an incompetent IT Infrastructure staff or love the PR of so saying we have so many customers that even our web site and call center can't handle it.

  

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18 hours ago, Val-E said:

You drive 600 miles to buy Lego on a regular basis?

@Val-E Have you ever been to the Americas?  We tend to drive a lot over here. 600 miles is a drop in the bucket.  Given vehicles today, I'm sure @boliramirez probably had a movie playing and his seat coolers on.?  Not to mention, he has his set unlike some unlucky folks who tried.  

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27 minutes ago, BricksBrotha said:

@Val-E Have you ever been to the Americas?  We tend to drive a lot over here. 600 miles is a drop in the bucket.  Given vehicles today, I'm sure @boliramirez probably had a movie playing and his seat coolers on.1f440.png  Not to mention, he has his set unlike some unlucky folks who tried.  

Distance yes, reason for doing it no. However, if he didn´t have to spend 4hrs in a queue too, then he´s still ahead of all the people who were F5ing in front of their PC´s all morning.

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1 hour ago, Val-E said:

Distance yes, reason for doing it no. However, if he didn´t have to spend 4hrs in a queue too, then he´s still ahead of all the people who were F5ing in front of their PC´s all morning.

Até you talking about distance? I'll fly 10k miles just to pick up mine! ☺️

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12 hours ago, CM4Sci said:

I just read on Facebook from someone who talked to some LEGO reps, they said that those who waited for double VIP points (me!) are probably out of luck and all of the backorders won't be done until Nov 8th at the earliest.

Damn it!

There will always be another Double VIP event.

12 hours ago, CM4Sci said:

I'd like it as soon as possible..... rather not wait til then.

 

I seriously did not think this thing would be this hyped. I thought the price would put off a few people.

Fake news....Seriously, who is hyping this set?  A couple of hundred people on some LEGO fan sites?  You have to filter out the noise.  LEGO is doing this on purpose.  Don't fall for the BS.  Nobody knows how many were produced or if it's in such demand.  If a couple of thousand were made, that doesn't go very far.  

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45 minutes ago, Ed Mack said:

Fake news....Seriously, who is hyping this set?  A couple of hundred people on some LEGO fan sites?  You have to filter out the noise.  LEGO is doing this on purpose.  Don't fall for the BS.  Nobody knows how many were produced or if it's in such demand.  If a couple of thousand were made, that doesn't go very far.  

Yeah, welcome to product marketing in the 21st century :P 

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Fake news....Seriously, who is hyping this set?  A couple of hundred people on some LEGO fan sites?  You have to filter out the noise.  LEGO is doing this on purpose.  Don't fall for the BS.  Nobody knows how many were produced or if it's in such demand.  If a couple of thousand were made, that doesn't go very far.  


Exactly.

Look, LEGO had to keep this thing tightened down. They needed a leak free release (and pretty much got that).

How does that happen? Limit internal exposure. It's no coincidence that there are Mexico packing codes on these.

There are only so many you can make when you limit your production chain and internal exposure.

Now that it's been released, they will move production to the other plants, including China. The only question will be how quickly can they mass produce this (with other products) along with shipping them out. Once production gets going, there will be plenty out there.
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3 minutes ago, Alpinemaps said:

Now that it's been released, they will move production to the other plants, including China. The only question will be how quickly can they mass produce this (with other products) along with shipping them out. Once production gets going, there will be plenty out there.

I am curious how fast LEGO can crank up the next batch of these now that the China factory is up and running

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I am curious how fast LEGO can crank up the next batch of these now that the China factory is up and running


Me too. I'm sure this was a very deliberate decision not to let China do any of the first batch. I'm guessing China had about as much info as the rest of us.

I have a feeling after the Sept 1 announcement, they ramped up production in China. We know they can't get them out by 1 Oct. They've admitted that. But I think we'll see a steady stream of them for awhile.
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6 hours ago, Kesh said:

I am not so sure about your statement that it is only speculators that care about how rare a set is. In the end everybody is more or less susceptible to status, and having a rare unobtainable object displayed in your house provides that. If you have such a thing in your house you are not necessarily a speculator.

It is very difficult to establish why anybody has interest in some object. In particular in this period of hype and the speculation going on with the old model. The nice thing about a van Gogh painting is that the original designer is no more. If you care about status that is. If you just like the design, you can get a poster or maybe some painting-by-number box if you want some "building experience".

And I am not quite sure whether a lot of buyers now think they are buying a van Gogh, and after a few months realise that they have put this painting-by-number thing on display.

 

Heres the thing... 10179 isn't rare at all.  It was simply NLA in retail.  It was a desirable set -  different from 'rare, hence desirable set'

and let's not even start with analogies to individual creations from respected artists compared to mass produced things you buy in any-mall USA

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1 hour ago, Ed Mack said:

There will always be another Double VIP event.

Fake news....Seriously, who is hyping this set?  A couple of hundred people on some LEGO fan sites?  You have to filter out the noise.  LEGO is doing this on purpose.  Don't fall for the BS.  Nobody knows how many were produced or if it's in such demand.  If a couple of thousand were made, that doesn't go very far.  

Lego marketed teaser videos over several stages.  How many sets get that?  The story got picked up on dozens and dozens of mainstream sites..  including USA Today... time... etc.  "biggest set ever" is an easy hook and many grabbed it and ran.

 

in tighter loops there are YouTube live streams of people building it... time lapses... and more.  This thing is getting plenty of attention.  Now, to the point of changing the buying situations?  No... that's the usual suspects :)  the people who heard about this set through news outlets and social media are just starring at OOS messages even if they considered a buy :)

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14 hours ago, winder00side said:

I've been doing some research, I plan to wallmount it so it is not parallel to the wall, but rather "flying", so that complicates things.  Need to get it in hand (and finished) before I can see possible mounting points, etc. I'll shoot you a PM so I remember your contact info

 

I prefer that too... but the problem is the ugly under belly and fixed feet.  So you might as well have it low.. as the top is the sexy side.. then the dimensions become a problem at such a huge radius.  My x wings look awesome suspended.... falcons have to stay grounded :(. I think swooping from a bottom mount on a steep angle is still the best POV given the models' limits.

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25 minutes ago, flynnibus said:

Lego marketed teaser videos over several stages.  How many sets get that?  The story got picked up on dozens and dozens of mainstream sites..  including USA Today... time... etc.  "biggest set ever" is an easy hook and many grabbed it and ran.

 

in tighter loops there are YouTube live streams of people building it... time lapses... and more.  This thing is getting plenty of attention.  Now, to the point of changing the buying situations?  No... that's the usual suspects :)  the people who heard about this set through news outlets and social media are just starring at OOS messages even if they considered a buy :)

That was my point...Who is hyping this set?  LEGO.  Speaking from first hand experience with manufactured hype, the rest is BS.   Sorry, it's a long story and you are new to the site, but one day I will write another book on how "LEGO Is A Better Investment Than Gold."  

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13 minutes ago, Ed Mack said:

That was my point...Who is hyping this set?  LEGO.  Speaking from first hand experience with manufactured hype, the rest is BS.   Sorry, it's a long story and you are new to the site, but one day I will write another book on how "LEGO Is A Better Investment Than Gold."  

You should do a deal with @TabbyBoy to sell it with his "Bitcoin is better than Lego" book in a value pack.

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28 minutes ago, flynnibus said:

 

Heres the thing... 10179 isn't rare at all.  It was simply NLA in retail.  It was a desirable set -  different from 'rare, hence desirable set'

and let's not even start with analogies to individual creations from respected artists compared to mass produced things you buy in any-mall USA

20,000 copies means that 1 in about 375,000 can have it, worldwide. Not sure what your definition is, but I call that rare. And even so, if I remember correctly, it took Lego between 2007 and 2010 to sell them all. It's only after that, that they became really desirable.

I think that the analogy with the van Gogh paintings in terms of what something is worth is perfectly valid.

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24 minutes ago, Kesh said:

20,000 copies means that 1 in about 375,000 can have it, worldwide. Not sure what your definition is, but I call that rare. And even so, if I remember correctly, it took Lego between 2007 and 2010 to sell them all. It's only after that, that they became really desirable.

I think that the analogy with the van Gogh paintings in terms of what something is worth is perfectly valid.

Yes, but the entire world population can´t drop 800 USD on a lego set, as well as maybe 0.001% can perfectly buy 100 of them to resell. I guess by the time the have made 50-60k copies, they´ll have satisfied most of the demand from currently waiting real end users.

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