75192 - UCS: Millennium Falcon 2017

[Floriano]

1 hour ago, gregpj said:

 

It appears that Shop at Home and in-store PoS systems have different rules regarding purchase when a member has been banned from Shop at Home.

People who have been banned from shopping online can still earn and redeem in store using their VIP cards.

 

Sorry for the ignorance. Why would someone be banned from SAH?

[Ed Mack]

5 minutes ago, Floriano said:

Sorry for the ignorance. Why would someone be banned from SAH?

For exceeding purchase limits.  LEGO assumes you are a "reseller" if you buy multiples of a particular set that is popular.  

[gregpj]

Sorry for the ignorance. Why would someone be banned from SAH?

Usually for exceeding the limits of a single item by placing multiple orders.

But sometimes because LEGO is stupid and decides you're a reseller based on your order history (sometimes they get it right tho ).

[Kesh]

4 hours ago, Dr Jedi said:

I know it's likely too early in the game to project overall success for 75192, but to me, the silver lining in this debacle is that TLG is getting a very clear message that there is extensive support for sets of this size and grandeur.  

Wondering about this.

We have seen a peak, similar to selling concert tickets. IF you are able and willing to spend 800 dollars/Euro's then you probably have no reason to wait any longer given the situation with the old set. I wonder how many AFOLs want this set and did not try to get it yet, and how many tried and failed.

The fact that a few idiots are willing to spend an insane amount on this set on ebay is not really relevant.

Then the question is whether this set will remain hot once everybody realises that it is not that exclusive, despite its price. It  is of course eye-catching because of its size, but it is a grey a piece of junk by nature, and people are going to wonder where to put it. Possibly even when it is discounted.

And that last question is going to hunt them even more for every new set of this size.  iPhones do not have this problem.

And then we should compare that to the number of kids that get some more affordable set to play with, once in a while or regularly.

[Val-E]

1 hour ago, Ed Mack said:

75192 - Star Wars UCS Millennium Falcon

Ed Mack replied to chinothegeeko's topic in Star Wars Sets

This Christmas...wait till you see some buyers pay $1200.00 for a set that sold for $800.00 a few weeks earlier. This set will be a flipper's dream. Long term...who the Hell knows?

 

I guess I was TOO CONSERVATIVE with my estimate...

 

I guess the resellers who were only in for 1 were also too conservative!

[Floriano]

1 hour ago, Sacdjas said:

Huzzah!  My WHOLE order (including the 75192) has shipped.  

What was the timeline for it? Were you "in warehouse" before? For how long?

[Ed Mack]

4 hours ago, Dr Jedi said:

I know it's likely too early in the game to project overall success for 75192, but to me, the silver lining in this debacle is that TLG is getting a very clear message that there is extensive support for sets of this size and grandeur.  

We have NO IDEA about the true popularity or the sales numbers for this set.  ZERO.  Only what LEGO tells us. 

[boliramirez]

3 minutes ago, Val-E said:

I guess the resellers who were only in for 1 were also too conservative!

they would not sell me two..... ?

 

[Sacdjas]

1 hour ago, winder00side said:

What was your order time yesterday? 

I'm on west coast and started 5:15a and had same troubles that most people had and finally got order through 6:30a ish.  They fixed the promotional items and shipping charges on my receipt that I received 2 hours later.

[Leviticus]

Shipped my order... whoop!

[Sacdjas]

5 minutes ago, Floriano said:

What was the timeline for it? Were you "in warehouse" before? For how long?

It was 'in Warehouse' by yesterday after 12p and this morning 7:45a I got shipping email with tracking this early morning.

[Val-E]

7 minutes ago, boliramirez said:

they would not sell me two..... 

 

You drove 600 miles without a trick moustache and wig?

[boliramirez]

Just now, Val-E said:

You drove 600 miles without a trick moustache and wig?

I tried, but they know me too well at the store.....  

[Val-E]

Just now, boliramirez said:

I tried, but they know me too well at the store.....  

You drive 600 miles to buy Lego on a regular basis?

[boliramirez]

Just now, Val-E said:

You drive 600 miles to buy Lego on a regular basis?

once a month, kids love San Antonio....

[Alpinemaps]

LEGOLAND California report. They got 6 in yesterday and sold out immediately (duh)

[Val-E]

Any bets on what TRU will mark this set up to when they get it? I´d say at least 899.

[4cs]

Well, my call to Customer Service paid off (I was frustrated, but very nice to the guy, I figured his day was going pretty bad regardless).

After receiving the cancellation email yesterday morning due to payment error, Brian in CS was very helpful and said the system was crazy all morning and he was sure it was an error on their part (it was - I used the same shipping address and credit card I have used for years).

Went into "In Warehouse" status yesterday afternoon and just received a shipment email with tracking (fingers crossed).

New plan: finish selling last three Gingerbread Houses on FBA to cover full cost of MiLF. Sold one already for $219.

 

[Val-E]

9 minutes ago, 4cs said:

New plan: finish selling last three Gingerbread Houses on FBA to cover full cost of MiLF. Sold one already for $219.

 

Are people still buying those? Amazon price is down to 190 now and there are 2 pages of listings.

[Poly 30286]

I hope the dust has settled enough for me to theorize/rant about this set...

RRP is just too much for the average consumer/collector. I won't be buying this for a long time. The exclusive VIP card and 2018 offers do make it more enticing to buy in 2017, BUT that would be contingent upon both having the money and LEGO having the stock. It seems like this "exclusivity" is just a ploy to push as many of these out the door as quickly as possible. We know that LEGO has seen profits drop. We know this set is a beast in terms of storage space. Perhaps the Black VIP will help with the initial sales, but what does it do to the long term? If you know you will buy it, waiting until 2018 makes no sense.

Then there are the resellers... this set has QFLL take advantage of shortages written all over it, but then what? Once the supply gets sorted out, it will just be another set. It is not a limited release. Marketing strategies vs. the SW franchise wouldn't cut the life span short. Now that LEGO is more just in time with their supply strategy, there is no draw to hoarding. I'm happy for everyone who is getting it when and/how they want to. I just think that all this Day 1 hubbub is showing LEGO that they still rule when they don't. 

[fixerdrew02]

Anyone is delusional in thinking that this set will be a limited run.  Unless Lego is losing money per set after marketing, licensing, manufacturing and R/D, there's no way they would cut the supply off along as there's demand.  Demand is SUPER high right now and that's reflected in the secondary market, but frankly there's no reason to think that once it actually comes out in October and they're able to meet the demand that it won't just keep on being sold.  It may have a limited run in the sense that the demand wanes over time due to market saturation and people losing interest in an $800 set and they have to reduce the supply to the point where they believe it's not worth it to keep their stores and online stores stocked, but it's not going to be an arbitrary cutoff of sell sell sell, and then all of the sudden cutoff supply.  

Lego, after all, is in it to make money.  Maybe not as much as other corporations that have to worry about stock holders, but they still need to make ends meet and turn a profit.

So that being said, those of you that WEREN'T able to get this set, don't worry.  Your time is definitely coming.

[gregpj]

People waste money on worse things than LEGO and Star Wars. Each time a new Star Wars movies comes out in the next 5 years this set's going to get a bump in sales.

Star Wars + Millennium Falcon

Not sure why anyone is questioning why LEGO is playing games with stock and exclusive promos.

19 minutes ago, Poly 30286 said:

RRP is just too much for the average consumer/collector.

This set is not targeted at the average consumer collector. Never has, never will be. Star Wars collectors are not average... they're weird and tend to have lots of money for toys. LEGO collectors are not average... they're equally as weird and have almost as much money for toys.

[Floriano]

38 minutes ago, 4cs said:

Well, my call to Customer Service paid off (I was frustrated, but very nice to the guy, I figured his day was going pretty bad regardless).

After receiving the cancellation email yesterday morning due to payment error, Brian in CS was very helpful and said the system was crazy all morning and he was sure it was an error on their part (it was - I used the same shipping address and credit card I have used for years).

Went into "In Warehouse" status yesterday afternoon and just received a shipment email with tracking (fingers crossed).

New plan: finish selling last three Gingerbread Houses on FBA to cover full cost of MiLF. Sold one already for $219.

 

My chat with CS this morning was not so good. The guy was not so thoughtful as they usually are. First, said to me that black VP card (as ain't any other VIP card) is not shipped together with the set purchase. It will come later (8-6 weeks) to your billing address. My problem is: my billing address is in Brazil and the guy noted that. So there is a great risk they won't be shipping mine to the hotel I'm staying next October. Furthermore, I fear they can cancel my VIP membership entirely!!!

No good news as to my 75192 either. It's still is on "Waiting for new stock" status and the CS guy had no idea yet about when it's going to available. Given my strict time windows in the US next month I'm getting nervous... 

[justapilgrim]

Any bets on how long "waiting for new stock" is?

[Floriano]

3 minutes ago, justapilgrim said:

Any bets on how long "waiting for new stock" is?

Has anybody so far had an order moved from "waiting for new stock" to something else like "in process" or "in warehouse"?