TRUTH Tactics : and now the end is here

[Jondog21]

I ran into a similar situation as Grynn above.  I usually buy a single item and have never tried more than one coupon, but today I did and it didn't turn out like I expected.  

I will use the phone coupons we have posted here, but I don't like to if I have a physical coupon option.  Today I actually had 2 physical coupons, one was a 20% off that came in the mail with my new credit card and the other was the 15% off that was posted here as a PDF.  I bought two items in order to spend enough for Bricktober and I thought 20% would come off one item and 15% off the other. But instead both applied to the more expensive item, which then cancelled out the 10% Thursday discount.  So the cheaper item only had the 10% applied.  I calculate I spent a little over $2 more than if the coupons applied in the way I expected  them to.  

 

1. LEGO 41052   DP:ARIEL MAG            31.49 T1 
     673419210812 
     REFUND PRICE 24.70 
     QUALIFYING ITEM BRICKTOBER PROMO                 
         3.50 SAVINGS 10% OFF PURCHASE                
         3.50 TOTAL SAVINGS | REG. PRICE      34.99 
  2. LEGO DP ARIELUNDERSEA PLC            40.79 T1 
     673419231398 
     REFUND PRICE 31.48 
        12.00 SAVINGS 20% OFF ITEM                    
     QUALIFYING ITEM BRICKTOBER PROMO                 
         7.20 SAVINGS 15% OFF ITEM                    
        19.20 TOTAL SAVINGS | REG. PRICE      59.99 
  3. LEGO BAKERY  BRICKTOBER               0.00 T1 
     673419232135 
        19.99 SAVINGS BRICKTOBER PROMO                
        19.99 TOTAL SAVINGS | REG. PRICE      19.99 
  

[darksam007]

At least your second discount wasn't applied to the bakery. I had that happen to me

[exciter1]

YMMV never fails, but I learned something new today (no doubt news to others but not all):

There is a per-item discount limit built into the POS system... it has been explained to me different ways by different people, but it takes a manager override to get past what, for me, today, was a 3-discount limit. It was clear this is the case not just by being told, but the fact that my 10% TRUTH was automatically NOT applied to the most expensive (WALL-E) item, while it WAS applied to the other smaller (bat) sets. First time I have ever seen this... usually because I don't buy small sets to qualify for Bricktober, thus multiple coupons usually get spread among 2-3 larger purchases. (That was my plan today too but they only had 1 lonely robot left.)

Anyway, I didn't fight it and was glad for the $4 education, to be honest. Then I went to another store and got a M. Falcon (plus freebie) for $80 out the door due to voluntary override protocol. Yeah I'm lucky, my nearest store is full of good people. I didn't notice, however, they did forgot to upgrade the 15/20% coupon due to CC, and of course the actual cost is even lower with discount gift cards. My approach is to always be friendly and when they ask if I have a membership, I reply "yes, right here, and enough coupons to drive you nuts if you are willing to try them - not sure all will work, but maybe we can find out". It's like flies to honey as long as they aren't under strict management. People like to help nice people... If I run into so much trouble the purchase isn't worthwhile, I just apologize and tell them I thought I could get the price low enough to spend my money, but I understand if they won't allow it. 

Good times at TRU for those able to use, not abuse, the opportunities. If that's you, hopefully this info helps in some way.

I'm very nice to everyone, the employees are not in return. Well, actually, they aren't nice from the get go.

Edited October 15, 2015 by exciter1

[meganr]

I found a lone JW Dilophosaurus Ambush at TRU today so I got it and a Duplo set (10596). I used both 20% off coupons (the BRU that converts from 15% to 20% with TRU CC) and TRUTH. I also used the $5 off $25 which has worked fine the past couple of weeks, but it did not show up today. I paid $30.95 for the Duplo and $25.19 for the JW set + tax and I used a discounted GC for partial payment. Plus I got the free bakery.

I know this is probably somewhere on the forum, but I can't seem to find it. How do you calculate your costs when using discounted gift cards and when you get freebies?

Also, does anyone buy Duplo to resell? I have an affection for Duplo and I always want to buy the sets especially Disney and sets with lots of animals, but I don't think they are really worth it most of the time. Anyone have an opinion on this?

I know these questions probably belong on some other thread, but I really don't know where...

[cory730]

My GOLD MINE tru did not dissappont today but made it very hard to not draw attention. Don't want to loose this one. 7x Wall E with entire display of Bats. Had to stop at 35. Other tru got ISD with price adj. And 20% plus 10% for 70$ and change. Just make sure to say you want price adjustment not price match

Edited October 15, 2015 by cory730

[Cbenioff]

FYI the new 15% off with CC that stacks with the 20% does not stack with the 10% TRUTH.  So you can use the 15% any day of the week to the same effect.  Since today is Thursday I focused on transactions that with 2 items to get the bricktober set to benefit slightly from TRUTH.  Most expensive item got 20%, 15% and $5 off and the other item got 20% and 10% TRUTH.  Once I sell the bricktober set my buy in is just over 50% of MSRP of whatever it is I am buying.  Slightly more on big sets like the Millennium Falcon.  Will buy large single sets throughout the week since TRUTH is no longer needed on them.

[Jondog21]

FYI the new 15% off with CC that stacks with the 20% does not stack with the 10% TRUTH.  So you can use the 15% any day of the week to the same effect.  Since today is Thursday I focused on transactions that with 2 items to get the bricktober set to benefit slightly from TRUTH.  Most expensive item got 20%, 15% and $5 off and the other item got 20% and 10% TRUTH.  Once I sell the bricktober set my buy in is just over 50% of MSRP of whatever it is I am buying.  Slightly more on big sets like the Millennium Falcon.  Will buy large single sets throughout the week since TRUTH is no longer needed on them.

I was wondering about this after my experience today.  I just wasn't sure if you could use 2 coupons and have only one item in a transaction.  

[Alpinemaps]

FYI the new 15% off with CC that stacks with the 20% does not stack with the 10% TRUTH.  So you can use the 15% any day of the week to the same effect.  Since today is Thursday I focused on transactions that with 2 items to get the bricktober set to benefit slightly from TRUTH.  Most expensive item got 20%, 15% and $5 off and the other item got 20% and 10% TRUTH.  Once I sell the bricktober set my buy in is just over 50% of MSRP of whatever it is I am buying.  Slightly more on big sets like the Millennium Falcon.  Will buy large single sets throughout the week since TRUTH is no longer needed on them.

Good to hear. I probably won't make it to TRU today so hitting them this weekend with that makes it easier.

[Pseudoty]

FYI the new 15% off with CC that stacks with the 20% does not stack with the 10% TRUTH.  

I am probably missing something but it worked for me no override needed. 

 

 

[exciter1]

I am probably missing something but it worked for me no override needed. 

If you used the email 15% off coupon, you'll notice only the 15% applies to the item and not the TRUTH 10%.  I believe that's what they're trying to explain.

[micbelt]

My tru price adjusted the final price by 10% since the truth did apply. Didn't even ask. Got an aroc technic set for $147 plus bricktober. No discount gcs left for me.

[Pseudoty]

If you used the email 15% off coupon, you'll notice only the 15% applies to the item and not the TRUTH 10%.  I believe that's what they're trying to explain.

Got it. It doesn't discount the primary item so if just getting a MF there is no difference but if buying 2 or more items to get the free Bricktober then it does. 

[micbelt]

Yeah. I only bought 1 item so it did not apply truth at all.

[newbie77]

I ran into a similar situation as Grynn above.  I usually buy a single item and have never tried more than one coupon, but today I did and it didn't turn out like I expected.  

I will use the phone coupons we have posted here, but I don't like to if I have a physical coupon option.  Today I actually had 2 physical coupons, one was a 20% off that came in the mail with my new credit card and the other was the 15% off that was posted here as a PDF.  I bought two items in order to spend enough for Bricktober and I thought 20% would come off one item and 15% off the other. But instead both applied to the more expensive item, which then cancelled out the 10% Thursday discount.  So the cheaper item only had the 10% applied.  I calculate I spent a little over $2 more than if the coupons applied in the way I expected  them to.  

 

1. LEGO 41052   DP:ARIEL MAG            31.49 T1 
     673419210812 
     REFUND PRICE 24.70 
     QUALIFYING ITEM BRICKTOBER PROMO                 
         3.50 SAVINGS 10% OFF PURCHASE                
         3.50 TOTAL SAVINGS | REG. PRICE      34.99 
  2. LEGO DP ARIELUNDERSEA PLC            40.79 T1 
     673419231398 
     REFUND PRICE 31.48 
        12.00 SAVINGS 20% OFF ITEM                    
     QUALIFYING ITEM BRICKTOBER PROMO                 
         7.20 SAVINGS 15% OFF ITEM                    
        19.20 TOTAL SAVINGS | REG. PRICE      59.99 
  3. LEGO BAKERY  BRICKTOBER               0.00 T1 
     673419232135 
        19.99 SAVINGS BRICKTOBER PROMO                
        19.99 TOTAL SAVINGS | REG. PRICE      19.99 
  

everyone has their own way of accepting or getting a deal.

if one is to maximize the hassle of coupon and TRUTH + others then the best way in my opinion is to buy either "discounted" or at the most "MSRP" sets.

there is no point in paying over MSRP and go through the hassle of using coupons and et. al.

#41052 : MSRP 29,99 (from LEGO Shop at Home) purchase price is $34,99 and even with all the discounts and pain it only came down to $31,49 . same set can be purchased from Target/amazon price for 26,49

#41063: MSRP 54,99 (from LEGO Shop at Home) purchase price is $59,99 with all the game it came down to $40,79. amazon price is $49,28 so the savings here is just $8,49

assuming that you are in amazon taxed state actual saving here would come out to be "a free brictober set" and "$4,99" is that what you were expecting?

 

[BrickLegacy]

First TRUTH experience tonight.  Friendly, younger cashier.  She was ringing up my coupons like I was passing out free candy.  I was pumped.  Then she tells me I have to pay the full amount with my credit card even though I wanted to use gift cards.  I froze.  I should have just looked for the partial pay button.  It was too late.  She called over the manager.

The line grew.

The manager was actually pretty cool.  She said "I want you to get your savings."  She finally got it all too work.  I missed out on one coupon but with the promo and everything else it was a pretty good day.

[Jondog21]

everyone has their own way of accepting or getting a deal.

if one is to maximize the hassle of coupon and TRUTH + others then the best way in my opinion is to buy either "discounted" or at the most "MSRP" sets.

there is no point in paying over MSRP and go through the hassle of using coupons and et. al.

#41052 : MSRP 29,99 (from LEGO Shop at Home) purchase price is $34,99 and even with all the discounts and pain it only came down to $31,49 . same set can be purchased from Target/amazon price for 26,49

#41063: MSRP 54,99 (from LEGO Shop at Home) purchase price is $59,99 with all the game it came down to $40,79. amazon price is $49,28 so the savings here is just $8,49

assuming that you are in amazon taxed state actual saving here would come out to be "a free brictober set" and "$4,99" is that what you were expecting?

 

right.  I normally don't buy sets that are over msrp. I was even reluctant to post my transaction knowing my set selection might be commented on. But I was buying these as a gift for my god daughter and using discounted gift cards.  Sure, I could better use those discounted gift cards, especially since they have become harder to get at decent discounts, but I have money tied up in the gift cards and used my free cash this month at Lego shop already.  Not everything is for investment and maximum profit.  The fact is I still saved money from even the best possible current prices and got my 3rd Bricktober set.  

I'm happy.  I really was just pointing out that the coupons didn't apply the way I expected.  I've never seen a % off an item coupon stack with another % off an item coupon on the same item.  

[Grynn]

FYI the new 15% off with CC that stacks with the 20% does not stack with the 10% TRUTH.  So you can use the 15% any day of the week to the same effect.  Since today is Thursday I focused on transactions that with 2 items to get the bricktober set to benefit slightly from TRUTH.  Most expensive item got 20%, 15% and $5 off and the other item got 20% and 10% TRUTH.  Once I sell the bricktober set my buy in is just over 50% of MSRP of whatever it is I am buying.  Slightly more on big sets like the Millennium Falcon.  Will buy large single sets throughout the week since TRUTH is no longer needed on them.

I am probably missing something but it worked for me no override needed. 

 

 

If you used the email 15% off coupon, you'll notice only the 15% applies to the item and not the TRUTH 10%.  I believe that's what they're trying to explain.

Got it. It doesn't discount the primary item so if just getting a MF there is no difference but if buying 2 or more items to get the free Bricktober then it does. 

Respectfully, I refute all of this. I won't repeat my earlier post, but nothing any of these comments contain leads me to believe the issue is any particular stacking conflict. There is simply a limit on the number of discounts that can be applied to any one item. If there are additional items then the extra coupons get applied to them. If there are not enough items to accommodate all coupons / discounts (TRUTH) then only the three greatest will be applied without an override. There COULD be a little more complication in terms of single item / total purchase discount limitations as well, but I haven't seen proof as of yet.

It's very tricksy, precious - VERY tricksy!

[Cbenioff]

 

 

 

 

Respectfully, I refute all of this. I won't repeat my earlier post, but nothing any of these comments contain leads me to believe the issue is any particular stacking conflict. There is simply a limit on the number of discounts that can be applied to any one item. If there are additional items then the extra coupons get applied to them. If there are not enough items to accommodate all coupons / discounts (TRUTH) then only the three greatest will be applied without an override. There COULD be a little more complication in terms of single item / total purchase discount limitations as well, but I haven't seen proof as of yet.

It's very tricksy, precious - VERY tricksy!

I can confirm that TRUTH does not stack with the CC 15%. Made multiple different purchases today. Single items and multiple. All had the same outcome. What is being posted is absolutely true. No evidence of coupon limits at all. In cases where TRUTH would be better than $5 off, the $5 still applies and TRUTH doesn't... So it's not picking the best 3.

The 15% is a special CC offer. It makes sense that it would not stack with TRUTH.

1 item gets 20%, 15%, $5 off and no TRUTH. 

If buying a 2nd item it gets the other 20% and the 10% TRUTH.

3rd item just gets TRUTH and is not a recommended course of action. I bought a series 14 minifig to get over $75 and will return it to target. 

[Bold-Arrow]

target ?? 

[Cbenioff]

I am probably missing something but it worked for me no override needed. 

 

 

TRUTH only applied to part of your order. I assume it left out the item that got the 15%. If you have the option of multiple visits you can maximize your discount by making smaller purchases. Everything I bought today came out in the $60s except one larger set and once I sell the bricktobers my discount will be over 45% off just about everything. 

[Achilles]

Something interesting to note, for giggles I tried to make the EXACT SAME PURCHASE in the EXACT SAME ORDER at two different TRU today, and one of them gave the Bricktober for free on the receipt after the price went below $75, and the other had the Bricktober come up as a discounted item but still charged me for it.

So therefore, depending on whatever software system your TRU is using, they may not have a choice RE: The Bricktober promo unless they manually override.

Personally, I like to just end up above $75 to avoid the ambiguity, but I wanted to find out what the deal was.

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DUPLO - To whomever asked about DUPLO for investment, while some of the sets do appreciate (See: Big Zoo) many don't appreciate much. GENERIC Blocks of Duplo are almost never worth getting, I will be interested to see how the Batman lines and such fare after retirement. THe big problem with DUPLO over general Lego is the size of the boxes compared to the price of the items - If you have unlimited storage capacity, this is not an issue, but if you are maximizing your space - it's not remotely efficient.

 

[dcdfan]

I get different totals with the same items all the time in the same stores & sometimes with the same cashiers...

[Cbenioff]

I do know that the order of coupons can impact the outcome. I changed the order once and my coupon stacking failed. I don't think the order of the items matters but it might. 

[Grynn]

I can confirm that TRUTH does not stack with the CC 15%. Made multiple different purchases today. Single items and multiple. All had the same outcome. What is being posted is absolutely true. No evidence of coupon limits at all. In cases where TRUTH would be better than $5 off, the $5 still applies and TRUTH doesn't... So it's not picking the best 3.

The 15% is a special CC offer. It makes sense that it would not stack with TRUTH.

1 item gets 20%, 15%, $5 off and no TRUTH. 

If buying a 2nd item it gets the other 20% and the 10% TRUTH.

3rd item just gets TRUTH and is not a recommended course of action. I bought a series 14 minifig to get over $75 and will return it to target. 

I actually think it makes zero sense because 15% is for one item, whereas TRUTH is for the entire purchase. We already know that:

20% (item) and 15% (item) stack.

20% (item) and TRUTH (purchase) stack.

20% (item) and $5 off (purchase) stack.

15% (item) and $5 off (purchase) stack.

TRUTH (purchase) and $5 (purchase) stack.

Perhaps, then, 15% (item) and TRUTH (purchase) are the magical combination that doesn't stack, but that would be strange and I have yet to see proof. I think the most convincing way to make sure is not to use the other coupons and see if these two, alone, will stack. I have my mission for next week!

 

On another note, anyone care to inform me why my $5 off was pro-rated between Wall-E and 3 bats but not the 4th bat that received the other 20%?

[Cbenioff]

I actually think it makes zero sense because 15% is for one item, whereas TRUTH is for the entire purchase. We already know that:

20% (item) and 15% (item) stack.

20% (item) and TRUTH (purchase) stack.

20% (item) and $5 off (purchase) stack.

15% (item) and $5 off (purchase) stack.

TRUTH (purchase) and $5 (purchase) stack.

Perhaps, then, 15% (item) and TRUTH (purchase) are the magical combination that doesn't stack, but that would be strange and I have yet to see proof. I think the most convincing way to make sure is not to use the other coupons and see if these two, alone, will stack. I have my mission for next week!

 

On another note, anyone care to inform me why my $5 off was pro-rated between Wall-E and 3 bats but not the 4th bat that received the other 20%?

Well it does make perfect sense to me. I think the 15% account opening discount works the same way. So a special 15% cc reward absolutely could be similar. There is your sense. Guess I'm lucky to be at peace with this. 

Good luck finding out if it works in a different, more nonsensical manner. The result is already known regardless of the reasoning behind it. Whatever the case, we can predict the outcome now with 100% accuracy and thus maximize our discounts unless an employee interferes. Anything else is wasting money.