Fake, Counterfeit, Knockoff, Illegal, Garbage, Crap Set & Minifigure Thread: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING!

[Pseudoty]

Can you tell the difference?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/386930439261?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=aitt-6jqtjm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Kogj7Ln_Twa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[exciter1]

53 minutes ago, Pseudoty said:

Can you tell the difference?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/386930439261?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=aitt-6jqtjm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Kogj7Ln_Twa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I can tell it’s not this.

[CsabaLazlo]

1 hour ago, Pseudoty said:

Can you tell the difference?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/386930439261?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=aitt-6jqtjm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Kogj7Ln_Twa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Set number is wrong and it's missing the LEGO branding. That aside, it's a decent match.

[BRIX23]

2 hours ago, Pseudoty said:

Can you tell the difference?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/386930439261?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=aitt-6jqtjm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Kogj7Ln_Twa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Out of curiosity I reported this listing to ebay for counterfeit or authenticity practices since it's clearly not LEGO, but yet advertised as the real deal.  They denied my claim saying the listing doesn't violate their policy.  

Flego manufacturers can make all kinds of sets/bricks for all I care, but manufacturers and sellers marketing sets as LEGO which are clearly a copy of an existing set is bad for the industry as a whole and should be addressed.  How does ebay get away with a not my problem attitude allowing a free market for counterfeit and corruption?

[Pseudoty]

Even the LAN members are getting in on it. Look at the comments I think this Flego thing is really going mainstream due to the increased quality and the economy.

 

 

[Bricklectic]

Ryan @ M & R also has been pumping out the flego & pantasy reviews.

I think its worth noting that the more success they have and the more the mainstream they become the more likely it is for Lego to notice and devote resources to cracking down on. This may appear to benefit resellers but I believe can cause Amazon to increase scrutiny of resellers which can be very bad.

[Pseudoty]

Just now, Bricklectic said:

Ryan @ M & R also has been pumping out the flego & pantasy reviews.

I think its worth noting that the more success they have and the more the mainstream they become the more likely it is for Lego to notice and devote resources to cracking down on. This may appear to benefit resellers but I believe can cause Amazon to increase scrutiny of resellers which can be very bad.

Not sure what Lego can do about Pantasy they use their own designs, boxes, instructions and even some elements that Lego does not make as well as their own unique building techniques. I am on the third floor of the Pantasy Bakery so should finish it this weekend and post up my review and some pics but for the price, $85 for a 2,660 piece Modular, you can't go wrong. 

[Bricklectic]

33 minutes ago, Pseudoty said:

Not sure what Lego can do about Pantasy they use their own designs, boxes, instructions and even some elements that Lego does not make as well as their own unique building techniques. I am on the third floor of the Pantasy Bakery so should finish it this weekend and post up my review and some pics but for the price, $85 for a 2,660 piece Modular, you can't go wrong. 

yea the mocs and original design are safe but many (most?) of the myriad of KO Flego companies crank out both. I'd wager most of the $$$ amount of flego bought is going towards illegal replicas... Lego legal probably doesnt feel its worth their time but with the economy plateauing and lego income post peak, they may well start to crack down. In fact, I'm extremely surprised they haven't already given the blatant and widespread availability of the clones. 

Begun, the clone wars have...

Edited April 16 by Bricklectic

[Captain_Obvious]

It feels like we're in the matrix. The AI represents China and the human pods represent creative individuals/companies around the world. China lives off this creativity to feed the machine. It would be interesting if the tables were turned and eventually we'd get a run on counterfeiting their creativity. I just don't think they'll ever have any without a middle class...

So where's all this going? Production of counterfeits is moving faster, getting better, and spreading across many industries beyond consumer goods.

The rise of China's middle class may be our only hope and at the same time—the CCP's worst nightmare.

[Tonka858]

On 4/16/2024 at 11:35 AM, Captain_Obvious said:

It feels like we're in the matrix. The AI represents China and the human pods represent creative individuals/companies around the world. China lives off this creativity to feed the machine. It would be interesting if the tables were turned and eventually we'd get a run on counterfeiting their creativity. I just don't think they'll ever have any without a middle class...

So where's all this going? Production of counterfeits is moving faster, getting better, and spreading across many industries beyond consumer goods.

The rise of China's middle class may be our only hope and at the same time—the CCP's worst nightmare.

We really do nothing to stop it, We even let them trade on the stock market 

[Pseudoty]

OMG, we have officially Jumped the Shark!

 

 

[fuzzy_bricks]

Et tu, Jang?

[Darth_Raichu]

3 hours ago, fuzzy_bricks said:

Et tu, Jang?

LOL Jang lost his loyalty to LEGO when LEGO removed his reviews of sets that were released early in EU (but not yet in US).  This was what, 5 years ago ?

3 hours ago, Pseudoty said:

OMG, we have officially Jumped the Shark!

Having said that, if the brick company holds official license from the IP owners, it should not be classified as knock off brand. 🤷‍♂️

Looking at CADA website, I am tempted to buy this Trueno from Initial D anime. 

https://decadastore.com/products/initial-d-toyata-trueno-ae86-c61024w

[Captain_Obvious]

20 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said:

Initial D anime

Legendary cartoon. This show taught me how to drift cars irl. I'm buying this fs!

[Pseudoty]

And for those of you wanting more behind the scenes info this YouTube video was just posted. 
 

 

[Pseudoty]

Long story short he likes the Cada better in almost every way especially the look. Build is harder because the 6 different type of technic pins and axels are all black which makes finding the correct one more difficult. Oh, and he forgot to mention the Cada is $100 less on Amazon. 

Edited April 28 by Pseudoty

[Tonka858]

I'm surprised companies like F1 don't file IP complaints 

[Pseudoty]

8 hours ago, Tonka858 said:

I'm surprised companies like F1 don't file IP complaints 

Do they promote they do the testing, So it can be legally imported into the states? IE no banned ingredients?

It is a licensed official set with its own unique design, building techniques and elements not found in Lego. Pirelli had Lego remove their name from the Technic McLaren Formula 1 Race Car tires after the first run got out. Not all of these sets are stolen IP, stolen designs made in the back room of some toxic waste recycling plant that we were led to believe originally. 

Pantasy has a Gramophone set out already and now Lego is coming out with one. Are we to think that Lego copied pantasy, absolutely not, but  we need to look at Lego for stealing designs and IP theft as well. 

 

Edited April 29 by Pseudoty

[raindog]

2 hours ago, Pseudoty said:

Are we to think that Lego copied pantasy,

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss.  From the leaked photos, they look somewhat alike.

Edited April 29 by raindog

[Pseudoty]

57 minutes ago, raindog said:

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss.  From the leaked photos, they look somewhat alike.

 

That can't be the actual Lego set perhaps an Ideas Submission or BL designer program? The Pantasy has printed records will wait to see the real Lego version to decide if and which one to get. 

 

 

[Tonka858]

Funny after to reply to this thread. I',m getting facebook ads for theblockzone that does f1 cars

Edited April 30 by Tonka858

[Pseudoty]

Mars Toys perfect came presorted with no missing pieces and plenty of extras with the 3X set that I can enter online to see what else I can make. $75 and sore thumb.

 

Edited May 23 by Pseudoty

[mplsabdullah]

4 hours ago, Pseudoty said:

Mars Toys perfect came presorted with no missing pieces and plenty of extras with the 3X set that I can enter online to see what else I can make. $75 and sore thumb.

 

Would you giving me a direct link for this please.  Thank you 

[Pseudoty]

29 minutes ago, mplsabdullah said:

Would you giving me a direct link for this please.  Thank you 

I will send you a PM. I am going to get the 3X SW set to do Darth Vader next. I moved it in my office where it is darker and it actually looks so much better especially from afar. Will upload a pic tomorrow. 

[mplsabdullah]

Thank you