fuzzy_bricks Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 It seems to me that at every chance Rian could have done what the fans expected, he chose not to. I haven't read every interview, but it seems his reasoning for his choices, is that it was the opposite of what the fans wanted, and that's it. Some people like this, others don't. I'd guess that if Luke had a more "expected" arc that this movie would have a more favorable perception among all the fans, even with all the other complaints. I doubt the people that loved the movie would have been that disappointed if Luke was less of a grouch and more of a hero. Quote
exciter1 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, fuzzy_bricks said: It seems to me that at every chance Rian could have done what the fans expected, he chose not to. I haven't read every interview, but it seems his reasoning for his choices, is that it was the opposite of what the fans wanted, and that's it. Some people like this, others don't. I'd guess that if Luke had a more "expected" arc that this movie would have a more favorable perception among all the fans, even with all the other complaints. I doubt the people that loved the movie would have been that disappointed if Luke was less of a grouch and more of a hero. It seems Rian wrote the script around Hamill's Twitter persona. Quote
thegraverobber Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, exciter1 said: It seems Rian wrote the script around Hamill's Twitter persona. Huh, I find Mark Hamill to be one of the kindest and genuine celebrities on Twitter. Quote
Ed Mack Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, exciter1 said: It seems Rian wrote the script around Hamill's Twitter persona. Luke Skywalker's glass was always half empty. Quote
MrToes16 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: Luke Skywalker's glass was always half empty. You are just begging for this thread to go meme don't you? Edited February 27, 2018 by MrToes16 2 Quote
fuzzy_bricks Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, MrToes16 said: You are just begging for this thread to go meme don't you? Perfect example... Rian Johnson: Fans expect to learn about Snoke, Rey's Parents, etc. but I'm not going to do that, I'm going to show them where blue milk comes from. It will be great because they don't expect to learn that. Quote
MrToes16 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, fuzzy_bricks said: Perfect example... Rian Johnson: Fans expect to learn about Snoke, Rey's Parents, etc. but I'm not going to do that, I'm going to show them where blue milk comes from. It will be great because they don't expect to learn that. I would have been fine leaving that particular nugget to the imagination. Quote
exciter1 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, fuzzy_bricks said: Perfect example... Rian Johnson: Fans expect to learn about Snoke, Rey's Parents, etc. but I'm not going to do that, I'm going to show them where blue milk comes from. It will be great because they don't expect to learn that. Must be imported, there aren't sea cows on Tatooine. 1 Quote
Will 4 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, fuzzy_bricks said: Perfect example... Rian Johnson: Fans expect to learn about Snoke, Rey's Parents, etc. but I'm not going to do that, I'm going to show them where blue milk comes from. It will be great because they don't expect to learn that. Sheev voice Did you ever here the back story of supreme leader Snoke? I thought not its not a story Rian Johnson would tell you. 1 Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, exciter1 said: Must be imported, there aren't sea cows on Tatooine. Different species. The desert cows of Tatooine produced the powder version. Aunt Beru mixed the powder with the moisture they farmed to create the blue milk in ep4 1 1 Quote
Ed Mack Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 Snoke was a big joke. CGI characters just suck. Quote
mudcatsfan Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Will 4 said: Sheev voice Did you ever here the back story of supreme leader Snoke? I thought not its not a story Rian Johnson would tell you Edited February 28, 2018 by mudcatsfan Quote
Will 4 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 4 hours ago, mudcatsfan said: A meme referance young padawan Quote
Alpinemaps Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 So am I supposed to hate Rian for ruining the franchise or love him for being so meta? Quote
Ed Mack Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 14 hours ago, California92563 said: “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.” 1 1 Quote
California92563 Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Alpinemaps said: So am I supposed to hate Rian for ruining the franchise or love him for being so meta? ? Quote
Will 4 Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Ed Mack said: “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.” Quote
exciter1 Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 Shocked! https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/03/daisy-ridley-says-j-j-abrams-wrote-story-drafts-for-star-wars-episodes-viii-ix.html Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 41 minutes ago, exciter1 said: Shocked! https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/03/daisy-ridley-says-j-j-abrams-wrote-story-drafts-for-star-wars-episodes-viii-ix.html The conversation probably was something like this: JJ: Do whatever you want as long as Rey, Leia, Poe, Finn, and Kylo are alive at the end. Rian: sure thing Disney: keep the tall ewok guy alive too so we can sell more talking masks. Rian: ok boss 2 Quote
Mathew Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) The truth is that JJ, Rian, Kennedy and Disney Inc. all conspired to give us TLJ long before it was put on film. Kennedy formed an all female writing committee going back to 2012: "Kathleen Kennedy founded the group in 2012 when she succeeded George Lucas as president of Lucasfilm, putting Kiri Hart, a former film and TV writer, in charge of the unit. Ms. Hart’s first move was to make the story group entirely female, starting with Rayne Roberts and Carrie Beck. Both women had experience in film development but had also worked in other arenas — Ms. Roberts in magazine publishing, and Ms. Beck with the Sundance Institute." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/movies/star-wars-last-jedi-women-run-universe.html Ms. Hart's resume isn't impressive: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1848009/#producer Really nothing of note before Star Wars which makes you question Kennedy's judgement putting her in charge of writing a Billion dollar franchise. Same goes for Rian Johnson. A nobody before Star Wars with only a couple of minor films under his belt. Nothing that interesting. My personal opinion is that The Force Awakens was a tease to get fans on-board with this agenda based new trilogy. If you don't like the direction of the new trilogy (and the Star Wars franchise in general) the best thing to do is just boycott future Star Wars films and products. Edited March 2, 2018 by Mathew 2 Quote
Shewie Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 Interesting cut that gives little more depth to the Phasma scene. part of the deleted scenes cut that will come with BD-DVD edition Quote
Sauromosis Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 7:34 PM, Mathew said: The truth is that JJ, Rian, Kennedy and Disney Inc. all conspired to give us TLJ long before it was put on film. Kennedy formed an all female writing committee going back to 2012: "Kathleen Kennedy founded the group in 2012 when she succeeded George Lucas as president of Lucasfilm, putting Kiri Hart, a former film and TV writer, in charge of the unit. Ms. Hart’s first move was to make the story group entirely female, starting with Rayne Roberts and Carrie Beck. Both women had experience in film development but had also worked in other arenas — Ms. Roberts in magazine publishing, and Ms. Beck with the Sundance Institute." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/movies/star-wars-last-jedi-women-run-universe.html Ms. Hart's resume isn't impressive: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1848009/#producer Really nothing of note before Star Wars which makes you question Kennedy's judgement putting her in charge of writing a Billion dollar franchise. Same goes for Rian Johnson. A nobody before Star Wars with only a couple of minor films under his belt. Nothing that interesting. My personal opinion is that The Force Awakens was a tease to get fans on-board with this agenda based new trilogy. If you don't like the direction of the new trilogy (and the Star Wars franchise in general) the best thing to do is just boycott future Star Wars films and products. Great post. This completely explains why Last Jedi utterly sucked and how Disney ruined Star Wars. 8 year old girls do not buy action figures and vehicles! Ruin Johnson took the only good parts he inherited from Abrams and destroyed them in an act of ego, while working with this "story group." In episode 9, they basically have to reboot the storyline because they blew everything off in episode 8. When they bought it, I didn't want to immediately think, "Disney will ruin Star Wars" but it ended up happening. Solo will be awful, you can count on that. Rumors are the lead literally can't act. Quote
Ed Mack Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 I'm not saying The Last Jedi and The Force Awakens were the best movies, but please remember, George Lucas did give us the crappy "prequels," Jar Jar Binks and Ewoks. Just sayin'.... Quote
marcandre Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: the crappy "prequels," Jar Jar Binks and Ewoks. I'll take prequels and Ewoks over these new films. (Not counting Rouge One that was awesome). Why does everyone hate on the Ewoks? I loved them when I was little. 3 Quote
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