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10 minutes ago, exciter1 said:

International trailer with some new shots.

"Intercepted encoded Imperial message..." + "The message was sent by your father..."

The second line isn't in the US official trailer. Cool!

Jyn's father:  Captain Cassian Andor (Diego Luna) tells Jyn that her father, scientist Galen Erso (Mads Mikkelsen), was the person who sent the Rebellion the data about the Empire’s plans to test the Death Star’s superlaser.

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5 minutes ago, gregpj said:

A friend and I saw Star Trek last Thursday and I swear we got that trailer, but with more talking. Definitely had the Beastie Boys music.

It was better on the big screen!

 Might have to go watch some other movie too so I can see that trailer large. DS klaxon sync with music is great.

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Movie looks decent.  But it's a prequel.  And we know how those other ones turned out.

But seriously, Rogue One is something that would have been a video game ten years ago.  Never would have been green lit as a $150 million movie.  And because of that it comes across as filler.  Lucas meant for the films to be about a core set of characters and everything else was canon fodder for books, comic books, toys and video games.  Disney is being greedy.

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39 minutes ago, Mathew said:

Movie looks decent.  But it's a prequel.  And we know how those other ones turned out.

But seriously, Rogue One is something that would have been a video game ten years ago.  Never would have been green lit as a $150 million movie.  And because of that it comes across as filler.  Lucas meant for the films to be about a core set of characters and everything else was canon fodder for books, comic books, toys and video games.  Disney is being greedy.

And Lucas made those god-awful prequels. The emperor had no clothes, and his court was afraid to tell him. Star Wars has become bigger than the Skywalker family. I'm happy to expand the story. Will it make everyone happy? Never. Will it make bank at the box office and entertain us? Pretty sure it already has on the later; the former remains to be seen. 

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1 hour ago, Mathew said:

Movie looks decent.  But it's a prequel.  And we know how those other ones turned out.

But seriously, Rogue One is something that would have been a video game ten years ago.  Never would have been green lit as a $150 million movie.  And because of that it comes across as filler.  Lucas meant for the films to be about a core set of characters and everything else was canon fodder for books, comic books, toys and video games.  Disney is being greedy.

What? They are just milking their $3.5 billion investment for all its worth before this new "forgetful" generation move on to the next best thing and abandon SW :P 

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On 8/17/2016 at 6:26 AM, Mathew said:

Movie looks decent.  But it's a prequel.  And we know how those other ones turned out.

But seriously, Rogue One is something that would have been a video game ten years ago.  Never would have been green lit as a $150 million movie.  And because of that it comes across as filler.  Lucas meant for the films to be about a core set of characters and everything else was canon fodder for books, comic books, toys and video games.  Disney is being greedy.

and, ten years ago, fans would have been crying out for it to be released as a movie. (KOTOR anyone?)

If I remember correctly, the prequel trilogy (while divisive with older fans) was commercially successful and created many new fans of Star Wars. Turned out well in the end I would say.

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6 minutes ago, thoroakenfelder said:

and, ten years ago, fans would have been crying out for it to be released as a movie. (KOTOR anyone?)

If I remember correctly, the prequel trilogy (while divisive with older fans) was commercially successful and created many new fans of Star Wars. Turned out well in the end I would say.

And the prequels gave birth to The Clone Wars, which was the best Star Wars material on a big or small screen since Empire Strikes Back. 

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22 minutes ago, biking_tiger said:

And the prequels gave birth to The Clone Wars, which was the best Star Wars material on a big or small screen since Empire Strikes Back. 

Ironically, CW was so much what the prequels could have and should have been :( 

To me, the success of RO will depend on how much its creators have learned from CW and Rebels

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On August 17, 2016 at 9:08 AM, biking_tiger said:

And Lucas made those god-awful prequels. The emperor had no clothes, and his court was afraid to tell him. Star Wars has become bigger than the Skywalker family. I'm happy to expand the story. Will it make everyone happy? Never. Will it make bank at the box office and entertain us? Pretty sure it already has on the later; the former remains to be seen. 

I don't know.  The prequels were hard to watch.  But they did have that "Classic 30's-50's serial" vibe to them that is lost in the new stuff.  They also felt more like complete worlds.  These new films just come across as kind of shallow in that regard.  Compare for example the original cantina scene from Star Wars to "Maz's Place" (whatever it was called).  The former felt real and cool.  Maz's Place frankly sucked.  Maz sucked too IMO.  Such a lame character.  I know Jar-Jar was bad but Maz was such a Yoda rip-off just like her cantina.  

Basically the new stuff is entertaining to watch but it just doesn't resonate and is forgettable.  Like so much else nowadays.

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Sorry, you lost me at "hard to watch." ;)

Yeah, The Force Awakens was a bit shallow and slick. I hope episode 8 can shore up some depth and background to our characters. I'm not a big Force Awakens fan by any means, but many episodes from The Clone Wars, "The Innocents of Ryloth" for example, resonate. Hard. The whole Ryloth invasion storyline was pretty amazing.

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