botchy123 Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 24 minutes ago, valenciaeric said: Another great day for EU sales - 3 so far and 2 more auctions close to ending. 360 euros and above will be the closing prices. You really should apply for a job at Bloomberg you know Quote
josh_676 Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Lucky this thing has wings, cos it's flying. Quote
Raidomso Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) If you look at bricklink 5 were sold @ 300€ each in one purchase. This indicates to me that the inflated price is mainly driven by investors. A quick flip at this time may be advised. Edited January 2, 2016 by Raidomso Quote
maestro Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 I have 3 R5s. What price do you think this will hit a year or so down the line? Quote
Val-E Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 In other news, DS prices are coming down to less than 600 again. Taking a breather it seems. 1 Quote
ZULU Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 57 minutes ago, Raidomso said: If you look at bricklink 5 were sold @ 300€ each in one purchase. This indicates to me that the inflated price is mainly driven by investors. A quick flip at this time may be advised. MSRP is 220. 300E is almost the same level for such a set. A waste of time unless you got them at 150E net Quote
botchy123 Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, valenciaeric said: In other news, DS prices are coming down to less than 600 again. Taking a breather it seems. Yes, even Lego investors take time off. Quote
Val-E Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, ZULU said: MSRP is 220. 300E is almost the same level for such a set. A waste of time unless you got them at 150E net Some of us paid less than that so it´s not a waste of time! Gotta sell X wings to finance the purchase of more sea cows - oh, wait.... 2 Quote
tacsniper Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Does the history of American prices catch up to EU prices or vise versa after official retirement and supply depleted from big box stores? Edited January 2, 2016 by tacsniper Quote
Val-E Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 It seems to, eventually. TH is still worth more in the US despite retiring at the same time. I guess it depends on the scarcity value and demand. In Europe, some sets have huge differences between countries. Quote
shortyz Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 19 minutes ago, valenciaeric said: Some of us paid less than that so it´s not a waste of time! Gotta sell X wings to finance the purchase of more sea cows - oh, wait.... EXOSUITS EVERYWHERE!!!!!! Quote
Val-E Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) So, the last auction for today ended at 317 GBP - the second highest price since retirement! Average sale price around 380 euros with 5 sold. As all but one of the auctions were above the benchmark BIN price of 350, one would expect those sets to be hoovered up fairly soon. Edited January 2, 2016 by valenciaeric Quote
GiliusThunderhead Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 I was just looking at this myself. Have to say I'm quite surprised its got this high so quickly - the SW fever is strong with this one. Although at these prices there is more supply coming onto ebay (in the UK anyway) so I'd expect any further appreciation to be slowed (but anything listed at £280 or below is being swept up immediately). A week after retirement and already going for levels similar to HH . One thing (although i could sit here and list quite a few actually) that I think will help this set (regardless who's buying this set) in the medium term is that the UCS tie will be out at a couple more years. People get a TIE but wait.... whats missing here..... that's right! An R5 to display right along side it. 2 great complimenting sets IMO. Quote
Raidomso Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 3 hours ago, ZULU said: MSRP is 220. 300E is almost the same level for such a set. A waste of time unless you got them at 150E net If you get out now at 340€ after fees, which seems doable, that's an amazing CAGR, All I'm saying is that if you are one of those investors that dumps fairly quickly (1 year of apreciation or so) it actually may be wisest to sell now. I think we are reaching a price point very soon at which it will be stuck. Or I'm wrong and this set is a real sleeper. Either way I'm happy, I got in last week for a big number of sets so I'll be doing both. Quote
Val-E Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 I agree. The big power sellers are all ready to go at the 400 point so it will stick there for ages till they flush out their stock. Quote
Kenxxx Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 14 hours ago, Lego_Yoda said: ... I'm quite surprised its got this high so quickly ... We can still find these at the Lego store in USA, so prices are more under control here. But I might agree with other recent posts... if you have "more than you need" of Red 5, and prices have taken a surprising jump, you might be wise to sell at least one or two, and take some profit. I learned this with the Town Hall and Arkham Asylum last year. I had a stock of 4 or 5 each. When prices took a big leap early on, I sold one of each. I felt like a fool at the time, but it was the smartest thing I ever did. I should have sold more. 1 Quote
GiliusThunderhead Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 Don't want to derail this topic but has anyone on here built 7191 & R5? Wondering if i should trade my trashed box (but still sealed R5) for a used 7191 (complete but no box). As an investment I'd say the R5 is probably the better option but if I don't make the trade I'm going to build it. From a build & future investment perspective any opinions on the better option? Used R5 or used 7191 (at the moment I'm leaning towards the trade). Quote
Val-E Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 Interesting stats from bricklink on sales in euros: 10227 Bwing: 5 sold in Jan, 56 listings and minimum 290 euros 10225 R2: 3 sold, 63 listed, min price 300 10240 Red5: 14 sold, 64 listings, min 298 euros Similar stats for similarly priced sets retired in the last 3 years. 3 Quote
GiliusThunderhead Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 22 minutes ago, valenciaeric said: Interesting stats from bricklink on sales in euros: 10227 Bwing: 5 sold in Jan, 56 listings and minimum 290 euros 10225 R2: 3 sold, 63 listed, min price 300 10240 Red5: 14 sold, 64 listings, min 298 euros Similar stats for similarly priced sets retired in the last 3 years. Cheers. Just going to add the brickset owned vs wanted numbers on these (might be useful to review this data in 6M). I know this represents a relatively small sample of the population (and WW, not just Europe so coupling it with the above might be as worthwhile as reading horoscopes) but its probably big enough to infer some general trends. 10227 Bwing: Owned: 3,614, Wanted 3,239 10225 R2: Owned: 5,144, Wanted 3,655 10240 Red5: Owned: 6,245, Wanted 3,330 (I'd be willing to bet that those circa 3,300 people who want each set are the same population). But if the sold prices and Owned/Wanted numbers start to diverge or move in unison then i think it might tell me something. Quote
Val-E Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 Just about every recent set has 3000 wanters, interesting to see Tumbler has 4200 owners and only 2700 wanters. Quote
Val-E Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 This week should see the end to the recent madness. Entry price is now at a level to discourage resellers, the initial panic is over and there are more sets coming onto the market than being sold. Next step is for the impatient to start undercutting and the price will fall down a little bit, even. 2 Quote
josh_676 Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 It's a long game, if the prices went a bit higher in Aus (400 AUD tops, about 200 GBP) I would have sold one or two, but at 400 AUD, you're making 70 dollars on MSRP once all is told. Not worth it. Christmas time next year may be a different story. Quote
HandyHand Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 The early retirement prices were crazy and unrealistic. I hope the bubble is now getting deflated to proper prices again, and when the air has gone out of it and QFLL 'scum' have sold off their stock, I hope the realistic price will steadily climb to solid levels. Quote
Val-E Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, Haay said: The early retirement prices were crazy and unrealistic. I hope the bubble is now getting deflated to proper prices again, and when the air has gone out of it and QFLL 'scum' have sold off their stock, I hope the realistic price will steadily climb to solid levels. 1 hour ago, josh_676 said: It's a long game, if the prices went a bit higher in Aus (400 AUD tops, about 200 GBP) I would have sold one or two, but at 400 AUD, you're making 70 dollars on MSRP once all is told. Not worth it. Christmas time next year may be a different story. Absolutely! However it is interesting to chart the progress of sets that retire at the same time - maybe 10240 will now stay at around 350-380 for some weeks and Tumbler will start to make gains and catch it up. Perhaps it was the movie, perhaps it was reseller fuelled. Quote
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