Wildemar Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Sold out at LEGO Shop at Home Europe. Edit: Now back to OoS, expected ship date Jan 27. Edit 2: Again back to: >> Starting the dance?! Edited January 13, 2015 by teschder 2 Quote
hannibal Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Sold out at LEGO Shop at Home Europe. Edit: Now back to OoS, expected ship date Jan 27. Edit 2: Again back to: >> Starting the dance?! Oh yes!!!! Game is ON now! Quote
Ed Mack Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 my thoughts. used 7191 sale prices have pretty much either stayed the same or declined from the 2013 values (sure, there were some outlier sales). the refresh did hurt the 7191 set (at least for now). i can't say that about MISB 7191 sales since they are so few. i look at it this way...if someone really wants an UCS X-Wing, they will think whether to spend $300+ for a used 7191 or $200 for a new 10240. i do think if 7191 was the only UCS X-Wing still, the prices would be closer to $1,300 and $600. it's so iconic and was featured in the ep 7 trailer. people are excited about it again. Sorry, I don't agree. The 7191 increased in value for some time after the Red Five was released. Did it slow, probably, but the set is a 1300 piece, $150 set that is owned by quite a few people, not a 3000 piece Death Star II or Star Destroyer that is much rarer. The 7191 sold at Target to put things in perspective. There is a ceiling for LEGO sets and the 7191 probably reached it. Many of these older UCS sets have drastically slowed in growth, but the 7191 has outperformed all the UCS sets but the 10179, 10034 and 10026. Quote
citymorgue Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I've owned the original X-Wing before I stupidly gave it to my step-brother's kid when I was in my dark ages. My personal opinion on this set, is that's it's IMO an improvement from the original one. It's a little more accurate. Both are great sets. But I agree with Ed, I believe 7191 has long reached it's ceiling. I've been occasionally checking on prices over the last year and half since I've been out of my dark ages, and outside of some general fluke price fluctuations, most of the older UCS sets have remained a pretty steady price range give or take a couple hundred. With regards to 10240, I don't know if it will ever reach the prices of 7191, just due to the volume. This is one of those sets I feel IMO that will do decent after retirement, but I wouldn't expect anything super significant. Quote
mudcatsfan Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Sorry, I don't agree. The 7191 increased in value for some time after the Red Five was released. Did it slow, probably, but the set is a 1300 piece, $150 set that is owned by quite a few people, not a 3000 piece Death Star II or Star Destroyer that is much rarer. The 7191 sold at Target to put things in perspective. There is a ceiling for LEGO sets and the 7191 probably reached it. Many of these older UCS sets have drastically slowed in growth, but the 7191 has outperformed all the UCS sets but the 10179, 10034 and 10026. my thoughts. used 7191 sale prices have pretty much either stayed the same or declined from the 2013 values (sure, there were some outlier sales). the refresh did hurt the 7191 set (at least for now). i can't say that about MISB 7191 sales since they are so few. i look at it this way...if someone really wants an UCS X-Wing, they will think whether to spend $300+ for a used 7191 or $200 for a new 10240. i do think if 7191 was the only UCS X-Wing still, the prices would be closer to $1,300 and $600. it's so iconic and was featured in the ep 7 trailer. people are excited about it again. Ed, i agree with most of what you said, but what about the hypothetical Jaisonline proposed? If there was no refresh of the UCS Xwing easily available on store shelves, wouldn't the revival of the star wars franchise make the ONLY original UCS Xwing tick up quite a bit? While i agree there are 'realistic' ceilings for sets, the current trailer could not have been designed better for OT fans to get excited. The first three vehicles we all think about, the first three toys Kenner put on the back of their figure cards, Tie, Xwing, Falcon. back on the big screen. I have no doubt the current explosion of mini fig scale recently retired (or at least out of stock) lego Tie, Xwing, and Falcons has allot to do with that trailer. If there was no UCS Xwing on shelves, i believe the original UCS would have popped even higher. Quote
trekgate502 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Would appreciate if someone across the pond would call LEGO Shop at Home and ask them if it is going to come back in stock or not. If they say it is not it looks like we may get in reverse what happened with the Super Star Destroyer and have a month or two more of it in the United States. 2 Quote
Wildemar Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Would appreciate if someone across the pond would call LEGO Shop at Home and ask them if it is going to come back in stock or not. If they say it is not it looks like we may get in reverse what happened with the Super Star Destroyer and have a month or two more of it in the United States. I called CS and the agent was 100 % sure that it will return. They just don't have a new date of availability and an appropriate status. "It's definitely not the same 'Sold out' as with R2-D2." He said currently software has it in product range until December 2015 but that doesn't necessarily mean they will produce it until then. As always take it with a grain of salt or two. 1 Quote
mudcatsfan Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I called CS and the agent was 100 % sure that it will return. They just don't have a new date of availability and an appropriate status. "It's definitely not the same 'Sold out' as with R2-D2." He said currently software has it in product range until December 2015 but that doesn't necessarily mean they will produce it until then. As always take it with a grain of salt or two. It's interesting to note that many CS reps seems to say something similar about seeing a product life cycle window. They use varying terms, but they do seem to see SOMETHING. The window they see is probably a guide for them, but is subject to change (as seen by examples where things just sell out quicker or slower than 'expected). Therefore its probably not USELESS info when we hear from a CS rep, but also certainly not gospel. Edited January 13, 2015 by mudcatsfan 1 Quote
trekgate502 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I called CS and the agent was 100 % sure that it will return. They just don't have a new date of availability and an appropriate status. "It's definitely not the same 'Sold out' as with R2-D2." He said currently software has it in product range until December 2015 but that doesn't necessarily mean they will produce it until then. As always take it with a grain of salt or two. teschder thanks a lot! It's interesting to note that many CS reps seems to say something similar about seeing a product life cycle window. They use varying terms, but they do seem to see SOMETHING. The window they see is probably a guide for them, but is subject to change (as seen by examples where things just sell out quicker or slower than 'expected). Therefore its probably not USELESS info when we hear from a CS rep, but also certainly not gospel. In reference to the software having it in product range and windows I agree it is useful when measured with other things. it is not reliable I agree as I think it can change greatly but when I spoke to Lego LEGO Shop at Home United States recently on a set they said let me check the product planned manufacturing date and then they gave a date. Accurate or not there is a specific field in the LEGO Shop at Home database that shows projected planned manufacturing date. I agree many circumstances including a VP can come along and change that date to shorten extend or stock can run out sooner and they do not do another run but there is a field in the system and that is what they refer to. Sounds to me like this set will be around until at least this summer. Quote
mscheaf Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 teschder thanks a lot! In reference to the software having it in product range and windows I agree it is useful when measured with other things. it is not reliable I agree as I think it can change greatly but when I spoke to Lego LEGO Shop at Home United States recently on a set they said let me check the product planned manufacturing date and then they gave a date. Accurate or not there is a specific field in the LEGO Shop at Home database that shows projected planned manufacturing date. I agree many circumstances including a VP can come along and change that date to shorten extend or stock can run out sooner and they do not do another run but there is a field in the system and that is what they refer to. Sounds to me like this set will be around until at least this summer. I would really like to buy some more of this and Ewok Village May the 4th. Keep getting the horde worked up and it may not last until next week though. Quote
legokent Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Last week I went to 3 Lego stores (not the manhattan ones) around NYC and there were a lot of 10240. With all this guessing.......maybe we should send someone to infiltrate LEGO and see if what we are hearing is accurate. Edited January 13, 2015 by legokent Quote
Wildemar Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 It's really interesting to observe 10240's status at LEGO Shop at Home Europe: It currently switches nearly every minute from "Sold out" to "OoS, ship date Feb 5" and back again (no browser issue on my side, my monitoring app alerts me reliably). I've never seen such behaviour before. Quote
trekgate502 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I would really like to buy some more of this and Ewok Village May the 4th. Keep getting the horde worked up and it may not last until next week though. Just trying to help out all of my fellow BP brethren. Quote
redghostx Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 teschder thanks a lot! In reference to the software having it in product range and windows I agree it is useful when measured with other things. it is not reliable I agree as I think it can change greatly but when I spoke to Lego LEGO Shop at Home United States recently on a set they said let me check the product planned manufacturing date and then they gave a date. Accurate or not there is a specific field in the LEGO Shop at Home database that shows projected planned manufacturing date. I agree many circumstances including a VP can come along and change that date to shorten extend or stock can run out sooner and they do not do another run but there is a field in the system and that is what they refer to. Sounds to me like this set will be around until at least this summer. Pure speculation but a summer production run would allow us to buy 10240 until Christmas based on current buying patterns. Of course, the horde may not allow that to happen and it could be unavailable by the fall. Quote
JDLego324 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I was just at a Lego Store, and they were down to 3 worn boxes with seal codes from 2013. I did not even have one to build yet, so I snagged one. Quote
glucapg Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) In My store is sold out but that told me that next week will arrive more Edited January 14, 2015 by glucapg Quote
Kugar Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 Plenty in the Atlanta store Sent from my XT1080 using Brickpicker mobile app Quote
cladner Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) walmart is oos in the last day. too bad i was going to order some more for tax free NH in store pickup after getting mint ones. amazon is out too. shop at home is backed up 30days. target and tru still in stock. Edited January 18, 2015 by cladner Quote
Val-E Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Bets are now on that this one flies its last flight on or before May 4th. No reason to have it hanging around getting in the way of the new versions coming in the Autumn, Limited to 2 in the USA, Oos at all Lego shops and discounted for Black Friday. Evidence is slowly building up. Quote
trekgate502 Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Bets are now on that this one flies its last flight on or before May 4th. No reason to have it hanging around getting in the way of the new versions coming in the Autumn, Limited to 2 in the USA, Oos at all Lego shops and discounted for Black Friday. Evidence is slowly building up.You started it in this thread not me. lol Quote
Val-E Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 But I am more than happy to acknowledge my sources! This thread only has 13 pages so far so it needed a bump and RI is so 2014. EOL before or after May? Who says what? Quote
bricketycricket Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 What are everyone's thoughts on the potential for this one? Personally, I find the piece count low for a high priced UCS model, but that's just me and I don't have a ton of interest in ship models. I would imagine most collectors don't care and this one will probably do very well as its an iconic original trilogy ship, agree/disagree? Quote
marcandre Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) I have been waiting to use the Feb Han coupons to get a few of these. This set should jump to 300 pretty quickly after it dries up. 400-500 in 18 months. Just my opinion of course. Got a few last year when FAO was giving away Palps arrest with purchase. The Han poly may end up being worth more than palps... Edited January 21, 2015 by marcandre 1 Quote
Ciglione Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Ooh come on guys!!! I am on black seed already! I just hope this doesn't go B-wing on us. Quote
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