10197 - Fire Brigade

[matrosov]

I only see a few dollars profit with the prices you paid. Are you just trying to break even on the damaged ones to get mint ones?

Yes the idea is to flip them while there is shortage get few dollars profit and get the new ones.  It is $220 on ebay now. 

[stephen_rockefeller]

Hmmmmmmmmmm I only see a few that sold for close to 200......I would suggest you do what Quacs said and wait to see if it comes back in stock. It might be gone forever.

[nolanfan34]

I'm not banking on it coming back at this point personally. I think it is risky to try to flip. 

[yannick29]

Hello,

I think I have bad news, it is back in stock in Amazon France...

[BearCrash]

Hello,

I think I have bad news, it is back in stock in Amazon France...

 

No, it's not.

That's a 3rd party seller, not Amazon itself. And the price is

[chipbee]

Hello,

I think I have bad news, it is back in stock in Amazon France...

if you want to buy FB, there's always some for sale on amazon, just like any other retired sets. You should read and learn more before posting.

[yannick29]

I assure you it was amazon at 139 euros.

But they had only one in stock

Tried to catch it but too late

[BearCrash]

If they only had 1 in stock, it was probably a return so nothing to worry about.

[glucapg]

10197 is EOL

I wrote to Lego and this is the answer (in italian, of course!)

 

Gentile Gianluca,

La ringraziamo per il suo interesse nei prodotti LEGO

[Guest eightbrick]

 

10197 is EOL

I wrote to Lego and this is the answer (in italian, of course!)

 

*snipped*

 

Thanks glucapg. Rough translation from google translate + me editing it after:

 

 

Thank you for your interest in LEGO

[Guest TabbyBoy]

So the waiting game begins (after the post EOL flood on eBay).....  Do I or do I not pop back into John Lewis this weekend for another one at

[Guest eightbrick]

So the waiting game begins (after the post EOL flood on eBay).....  Do I or do I not pop back into John Lewis this weekend for another one at

[Tilted]

So the waiting game begins (after the post EOL flood on eBay).....  Do I or do I not pop back into John Lewis this weekend for another one at

[ninjasnake1337]

I have the option to buy several. Tempting!

[spener90]

Two Words: Asian Markets!

[ninjasnake1337]

Even so, haven't many more of these babies been produced (and horded)? I'm worried this could damage the secondary market returns. Hopefully not!

[spener90]

I have the option to buy several. Tempting!

By the way, welcome ninjasnake1337!

 

Edit: Yes, the secondary markets will be damaged by the time frame of the set, it remains to be seen as to how severe that will actually be.

[glucapg]

 

Thanks glucapg. Rough translation from google translate + me editing it after:

 

 

Thank you for your interest in LEGO

[ninjasnake1337]

Thanks

I guess we will have to just wait and see. The Asian markets are pretty big, so I guess we have to hope there are more AFOL's than sets ;)

[Guest TabbyBoy]

Even so, haven't many more of these babies been produced (and horded)? I'm worried this could damage the secondary market returns. Hopefully not!

 

That's my concern and why I'm partly reluctant to buy more.  It wouldn't surprise me if say, 10,000 Cafe Corners and Green Grocers were made versus 500,000 Fire Brigades and Grand Emporiums.  It'd be nice if someone at Lego could leak factory production numbers to us.  I'm willing to put some coins in their brown envelope for that info.  Asia could open up a large customer base for us but, I would expect customs problems in India and China if the sets being sent there aren't current.  For example, you cannot import used or obsolete items into India above a certain value without government approval.  I work in IT and had to buy brand new PCs in Delhi locally at high cost rather then export ones from the UK that were 3 only months old.  Interesting times ahead I think.

[CNH1974]

It's already risen in price. It won't make nearly as much as the earlier ones, but I will be happy if it breaks

[ninjasnake1337]

It's not too far away from

[Fever Dog]

What's the typical media for selling to an "Asian market?"  Ebay?  A local Ebay equivalent (i.e. Flipkart in India)?

[Tilted]

That's my concern and why I'm partly reluctant to buy more.  It wouldn't surprise me if say, 10,000 Cafe Corners and Green Grocers were made versus 500,000 Fire Brigades and Grand Emporiums.  It'd be nice if someone at Lego could leak factory production numbers to us.  I'm willing to put some coins in their brown envelope for that info.  Asia could open up a large customer base for us but, I would expect customs problems in India and China if the sets being sent there aren't current.  For example, you cannot import used or obsolete items into India above a certain value without government approval.  I work in IT and had to buy brand new PCs in Delhi locally at high cost rather then export ones from the UK that were 3 only months old.  Interesting times ahead I think.

 

Thanks for your take on India, I wasn't aware of that.

 

As for the FB, I'm not expecting CC returns and it's not even one of my favorite modulars but I'd be disappointed with a <100% ROI by next Christmas!

 

Rather curious to see if it picks up! 

[DoNotInsertIntoMouth]

With sets like this, my hypothesis (I will be writing a blog explaining it) is that these sets will jump in value. If you sell early, you will do well. At a certain point, everyone will start trying to dump them and that will kill the price.