75920 - Raptor Escape

[solidpro17]

10 hours ago, hockeyweasel said:

The interior dimensions of the A2 is 10.9375"x2.375"x12.8125".  It fits tightly in that without space for bubble wrap.  You won't find the Regional A and B boxes at the post office, you must go online and order them from the USPS store.  They are free and will be delivered to you by your mailman. Which reminds me, I'm running low.

For me, being located in Virginia, east of the Mississippi and non-Florida sales it is less expensive to ship these in my own packaging.  I got a bundle of 14x12x4 boxes from Staples.com that the set fits into, but there is at least half-an-inch on each side for it to move in this box, so I bubble wrap it.

I really appreciate the help, very informative (at least to me) thank you. I have a 10 of these stashed away but figured I could make a quick flip before Christmas. 

Just sold and Indominus Rex for $180 through Craigslist :)

[mudcatsfan]

17 hours ago, labfreak7 said:

The sudden restocks of these and the relative ease of finding them/ plus the plummeting of prices and everyone is still buying armfuls of these ... Why?

...Cause i don't have to sell mine immediately?

It's kind of funny how the QFLL mentality would make someone even ask the question you've posed above.

So there's a 39.99 set, and its exclusive, available at only 2 retailers in the US. It has already been selling for 70-85 in the US DURING it's production run.

Wouldn't that be a nice set to have a year or two after they stop making it? 

I sure don't mind the idea of selling them shortly before Christmas, but i'm also happy to play the Lego game the old fashioned way and just wait for the Retirement tag to make its way across the pond.

 

[Loghamel]

18 hours ago, labfreak7 said:

The sudden restocks of these and the relative ease of finding them/ plus the plummeting of prices and everyone is still buying armfuls of these ... Why?

I totally agree.  I don't know what the fuss is all about.  I have a LEGO B&M, a few Targets, Kmarts, Walmarts, TRUs, B&Ns, etc. around me.  Would you care to advise me which set I should look for in those stores that is CURRENTLY selling for 65% over RRP?  I've got the time and money to find the item you'd suggest I pick up.  If 'plummeting' prices = +65% over RRP, I'll take it.   As an aside, if I can only flip this set to make $10 over Christmas, I'll gladly just put them all in a box and forget about them.  I'll let the Timmy's get all of the flips and then sell all of my JW sets to his uncle in a couple of years.

[mudcatsfan]

I have an information request for all my fellow brick pictures out there. For those of you in the US who have found this most recent wave of Raptor escapes at Walmart, have you seen restocks at the same stores after wiping them out?  I'm curious to see if this was one case put on a shelf in every store in America or if there is a bunch in the warehouse and they keep coming out. Clearly the Lego store brick and mortar continue to get stock but it's not clear yet if Walmart got a one and done shipment for Christmas and we've already wiped it out, or if they're in the similar position as the Lego stores. A funny thing to consider with me I received amount at a Lego store. In my area there is a Lego store and there are 15 Walmarts within the same 50 mile radius. So if every Walmart got only one case and that Lego store got 15 cases it would seem like the Lego store has far too many to meet them and where is the Walmart with them as far too few. Just something to think about.

[Shpadoinkle]

I picked up four at my local Walmart two weeks ago.  Sold them, then found three more on the shelves last week.  So either they got more in or hadn't put all that they received out on the shelves.

[fossilrock]

Now it's 65% RRP?  Last week it was only 50% RRP, and amazon prices seem to have fell another 10.00. 

Whatever.  Saw 3 RE's at my local wm this week, and 2 IR's, and left them all.  I've already hit my limit, and i'm not buying anymore.  Like, a guy said before, why continue to hit the same few sets over and over, when there are many others out there to buy.  I'm definitely in agreement with that strategy, because if we let these slow down, maybe lego will retire them in the states, instead of saying "wow, these sell in 2 minutes, fire up the machines". 

There's a point where you have to realize you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

[exciter1]

5 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

Now it's 65% RRP?  Last week it was only 50% RRP, and amazon prices seem to have fell another 10.00. 

Whatever.  Saw 3 RE's at my local wm this week, and 2 IR's, and left them all.  I've already hit my limit, and i'm not buying anymore.  Like, a guy said before, why continue to hit the same few sets over and over, when there are many others out there to buy.  I'm definitely in agreement with that strategy, because if we let these slow down, maybe lego will retire them in the states, instead of saying "wow, these sell in 2 minutes, fire up the machines". 

There's a point where you have to realize you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

So far, finding RE's has been a good problem to have.

[fossilrock]

4 minutes ago, exciter1 said:

So far, finding RE's has been a good problem to have.

I'm falling back with the older school investors on this site that like to keep their portfolio diverse.  I'm sitting on 12 RE's. and to me that's enough.  With so many other sets ending right now and heading off into retirement, a few of which I haven't bought, that's what I need to focus on.  Buying more RE's is like lego pulling a carrot on the ground with a string and while some of us are so focused on chasing after that, sets that could be much much better long term are being pulled out.   Yes, they just did a new restock that was quite large, but whose to say there won't be another in december, another in january, and another in feburary, etc?  I think it's awesome it retired in Europe, but I think those of us in the states might get the shaft on this one, and it's because of our behavior (myself included).  With how many resellers have hit amazon, compared to july/august, I think this one will stall for a while in the 60 to 80 range.  To me, i'm not selling these until they are at least over 100, and approaching 120.  Then I may shed a few, but that could take quite some time.

[trekgate502]

What's up doc ?

 

[LegoEdison]

15 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

Now it's 65% RRP?  Last week it was only 50% RRP, and amazon prices seem to have fell another 10.00. 

Whatever.  Saw 3 RE's at my local wm this week, and 2 IR's, and left them all.  I've already hit my limit, and i'm not buying anymore.  Like, a guy said before, why continue to hit the same few sets over and over, when there are many others out there to buy.  I'm definitely in agreement with that strategy, because if we let these slow down, maybe lego will retire them in the states, instead of saying "wow, these sell in 2 minutes, fire up the machines". 

There's a point where you have to realize you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

The only thing I agree with you this time but i will still take the RE home. 

[Loghamel]

11 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

Now it's 65% RRP?  Last week it was only 50% RRP, and amazon prices seem to have fell another 10.00. 

Whatever.  Saw 3 RE's at my local wm this week, and 2 IR's, and left them all.  I've already hit my limit, and i'm not buying anymore.  Like, a guy said before, why continue to hit the same few sets over and over, when there are many others out there to buy.  I'm definitely in agreement with that strategy, because if we let these slow down, maybe lego will retire them in the states, instead of saying "wow, these sell in 2 minutes, fire up the machines". 

There's a point where you have to realize you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Yes, Fossil, that's how the market works.  eBay doesn't have a set price one must list these at.  You see, sellers select a price they would like to sell at and buyers buy at a price they want to buy at.  So, and this may blow your mind, the average price paid today may be different than when I posted last night.  Crazy, right?!?!  To come up with 65%, I took the average price paid for the last 10 sold.  You know, to make my post relevant and current and all.  As you've demonstrated quite clearly, doing maths and stuff ain't your strongest subject, so I'll break it down for you.  Average price + shipping of the last 10 BIN was $65.  To calculate % over RRP, you take the sold amount, subtract the RRP amount, divide that amount by RRP and multiply by 100 to get the percentage.  

In the above example, it looks like this:

65-40=25

25/40 = .625

.625 = 63% (close enough)

[fossilrock]

And once again you aren't factoring in real world costs.  Unless all of these were bought in NH, there is sales tax.  Most of these sets will cost around 43 just to start.  And you're right, I don't buy into fantasy math and maybe that's why i'm constantly seen as the bad guy here.  But there are ebay fees, paypal fees, and shipping materials and costs associated with it.  Some don't factor it in, but I also factor in mileage with gas costs (which includes mileage from my house to the store I bought it in divided by the # of sets purchased then divided by mpg my vehicle gets multiplied by the current price of gas).  That also includes trips to the post office if you use ebay shipping.

Here's the latest ebay sales data.  Seems like the average is around 59.99.  That doesn't included ebay fees, paypal fees, and whatever extra shipping costs are associated with it.  Let's start strictly at 59.99 since that is where most of these seem to be selling at.  Final value fee on that would be around 6.50 or a tad higher.  If it goes through paypal, add in another 5% fee.  We are now under 10.00 per set and that doesn't include the gas it costs you to obtain, and ship them, let alone if you had to buy boxes, printing materials, or packaging materials.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=raptor%20escape%20lego&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

Edited November 16, 2015 by fossilrock

[exciter1]

Virtual profit is the best kind and doesn't take up too much room in your wallet.

[gregpj]

45 minutes ago, mudcatsfan said:

I have an information request for all my fellow brick pictures out there. For those of you in the US who have found this most recent wave of Raptor escapes at Walmart, have you seen restocks at the same stores after wiping them out?  I'm curious to see if this was one case put on a shelf in every store in America or if there is a bunch in the warehouse and they keep coming out. Clearly the Lego store brick and mortar continue to get stock but it's not clear yet if Walmart got a one and done shipment for Christmas and we've already wiped it out, or if they're in the similar position as the Lego stores. A funny thing to consider with me I received amount at a Lego store. In my area there is a Lego store and there are 15 Walmarts within the same 50 mile radius. So if every Walmart got only one case and that Lego store got 15 cases it would seem like the Lego store has far too many to meet them and where is the Walmart with them as far too few. Just something to think about.

My local Walmarts mysteriously get 4 or 8 at a time... they disappear for a couple weeks, then 4 or 8 more appear on the shelves. I know they usually get a shipment of LEGO every week but it's very odd for them to trickle in like that but their restocking practices are way harder to predict than TRU. Who literally put all they've got out on the shelves and the extras go up in the rafters for all to see.

9 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

 If it goes through paypal, add in another 5%. 
 

PayPayl is 2.9% ... #justsayin

[Val-E]

And now un retired at EU shop (call to check). What fun we have.

[fossilrock]

12 minutes ago, gregpj said:

My local Walmarts mysteriously get 4 or 8 at a time... they disappear for a couple weeks, then 4 or 8 more appear on the shelves. I know they usually get a shipment of LEGO every week but it's very odd for them to trickle in like that but their restocking practices are way harder to predict than TRU. Who literally put all they've got out on the shelves and the extras go up in the rafters for all to see.

PayPayl is 2.9% ... #justsayin

You're right.  So, I just calculated that.  Let's say you sell at 59.99, and you have 7.00 added to the shipping costs.  Paypal takes another 2.24 from you.  There's also the ebay shipping fee cost, which is another cost to factor in, which I didn't in this case.

http://thefeecalculator.com/

Edited November 16, 2015 by fossilrock

[Loghamel]

6 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

And once again you aren't factoring in real world costs.  Unless all of these were bought in NH, there is sales tax.  Most of these sets will cost around 43 just to start.  And you're right, I don't buy into fantasy math and maybe that's why i'm constantly seen as the bad guy here.  But there are ebay fees, paypal fees, and shipping materials and costs associated with it.  Some don't factor it in, but I also factor in mileage, and gas.

Here's the latest ebay sales data.  Seems like the average is around 59.99.  That doesn't included ebay fees, paypal fees, and whatever extra shipping costs are associated with it.  59.99.  Final value fee on that would be around 6.50 or a tad higher.  If it goes through paypal, add in another 5%.  We are now under 10.00 per set.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=raptor%20escape%20lego&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

What you don't understand is that every set comes with those factors.  This is something that many people here have tried to explain to you, but you just don't get it.  I'll give it one more try.  EVERY SET HAS COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.  Did that sink in?  If I am looking at current sales of LEGO sets on eBay and comparing them to what I can get them in the wild for, I take the current selling price and compare it to RRP.  I do this with each set.  And guess what?  I don't have to figure in taxes or gas or food or time.   Why?  Because all of those are costs that I will incur on ANY set I buy.  If those costs are constant, I can leave them out of my equation.  The only thing I might need to factor in is shipping and boxes.  If I find 5 sets that seem to be selling well and are selling for roughly the same % over RRP, I'll pick the one that is smallest and lightest.  But this is nominal in most cases.  So, yes, I will pay eBay and PayPal fees if I'm selling on eBay.  Yes, I will have to pay shipping costs.  Yes, there will more than likely be taxes involved in the transaction at some point.  But none of those matter when comparing sets to purchase and sell.  I don't believe anyone is claiming they can sell these with a PROFIT at 65% over retail.  They might be doing it in some places using a different platform than eBay.  And, again this has been hammered to you many times, eBay and Amazon are not the only platforms to sell these on and you don't know anyone's buy-in unless they tell you that they paid RRP with 8.375% taxes.  When I say 65% over RRP, I'm talking about the sold price vs. RRP.  Name me one set that I can find in the wild today that will get me a SOLD PRICE vs RRP of +65%.  Forget all of those costs you beat the dead horse with, I don't need those.  Just give me a set number SELLING at 65% over RRP that I can get today.  

I've worded my argument in about every way I can conceive to try to get you to understand what people are saying here.  That's my last try.

[LegoEdison]

RE is retired in EU. what are the chances Mexico is making it for another 1.5 years along with other JW set? RE is Wal-Mart exclusive, is there any other XX exclusive have a production run short like this?

[Guest]

So know all the Walmarts in my area say they have 1 or less in the stock tracker (from ********) but I checked 3 this morning and they had none. They did all have TRex and 75915. Weird

[fossilrock]

My point is simply this, Loghammel -  to flip these right now, you are making roughly 8.00 per set.  To those that are strictly QF'ers then that's probably the holy grail.   But, I think you and I are playing two different strategies.  To me QFin' is a low margin, time consuming process.  I did that game quite a bit earlier in my youth, and i learned.  I try not to get caught up in that now.  I'm going to give you two examples just this year that are playing out better than the QF'in game with RE's.

I look back at some sets that I bought EOL earlier this year, and have retired - namely Farnsworth House and the Delorean.  Those sets could all be bought around 25% below RRP and were easy to find from the end of 2014 into spring of 2015.   Now, FW house is about 80% over RRP, and the Delorean is almost 250% RRP.  I'll take the Farnsworth House and Deloreans over flipping RE's right now.  Yes, they are gone right now from retail, but my point is that there are many of these gems out there right now.  And so, maybe you miss my point, but do I think RE will become the next delorean or FW house?  I'm not so sure about that.  There are more than likely 5 to 6 sets right now that you can get below retail at the moment that will perform better in the next 10 months.  So, those are my target.  Yes it's a gamble, but i'm not going to get caught up on QF'in' RE's for 8.00, especially when i can buy those other sets that I know are going away, and will probably provide much higher margins than qf'ing all the RE's at the moment..

Edited November 16, 2015 by fossilrock

[Loghamel]

19 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

My point is simply this, Loghammel -  to flip these right now, you are making roughly 8.00 per set.  To those that are strictly QF'ers then that's probably the holy grail.   But, I think you and I are playing two different strategies.  To me QFin' is a low margin, time consuming process.  I did that game quite a bit earlier in my youth, and i learned.  I try not to get caught up in that now.  I'm going to give you two examples just this year that are playing out better than the QF'in game with RE's.

I look back at some sets that I bought EOL earlier this year, and have retired - namely Farnsworth House and the Delorean.  Those sets could all be bought around 25% below RRP and were easy to find from the end of 2014 into spring of 2015.   Now, FW house is about 80% over RRP, and the Delorean is almost 250% RRP.  I'll take the Farnsworth House and Deloreans over flipping RE's right now.  Yes, they are gone right now from retail, but my point is that there are many of these gems out there right now.  And so, maybe you miss my point, but do I think RE will become the next delorean or FW house?  I'm not so sure about that.  There are more than likely 5 to 6 sets right now that you can get below retail at the moment that will perform better in the next 10 months.  So, those are my target.  Yes it's a gamble, but i'm not going to get caught up on QF'in' RE's for 8.00, especially when i can buy those other sets that I know are going away, and will probably provide much higher margins than qf'ing all the RE's at the moment..

Fair enough on your strategy.  I'm more in line with you on the strategy as QFL is time consuming.  But to illustrate what I've been trying to say, I just sold a Trex Tracker and a Raptor Rampage on Clist for $150.  My total costs on those not including gas was $107.  So that's  $43 profit on $107 buy-in.  And that doesn't include the Ninjago poly, C3PO poly, the $10 GC or the Rewards points.  No shipping costs.  No eBay or Amazon fees.  No taxes included.  No boxes or shipping supplies.  I must drive 2.3 miles to meet her at a mall parking lot for a 40% profit.  And that was cheap.  The only reason I sold them that cheaply was because she said they are birthday presents for her son.  He "is adamant about collecting them all" and she was hoping to get the IRex, but was only looking to spend $150.  She said that by getting these two, that will leave something for Santa and the grandparents to get him for Christmas.  And guess who has two thumbs and will be selling them to her for Christmas.  This guy!  

[fossilrock]

Yes, I do think bundles is the only way to go at the moment with these.  I sold a complete set for 600.00 in September on amazon..  I netted 170 in profit on that one, and many of those sets I bought at discount.  I had another complete wave sitting on pending for over a week but it fell through.  I've also tried some other bundles on ebay, but haven't really had many bites other than lowballers trying to get them almost at retail, and on the cheap.  I turned off the "best offer" button on them last week, because I was tired of responding to all the offers that would have made me either lose money, or only net a few bucks. .    This line has constantly been a roller coaster line of elation to frustration, back to elation.  We will see what happens in the next few weeks.  I'm also interested to see what happens tomorrow when amazon officially begins their holiday sales period, and many resellers that didn't meet the criteria are dropped off the site.

[labfreak7]

People are going to do what they want. No sense in bashing heads over it. If someone is content with minimum wage, so be it. I know my time is worth more than that so I will seek other avenues for now.

[exciter1]

1 hour ago, gregpj said:

6 minutes ago, labfreak7 said:

People are going to do what they want. No sense in bashing heads over it. If someone is content with minimum wage, so be it. I know my time is worth more than that so I will seek other avenues for now.

 

You didn't have other avenues before?

[Val-E]

1 hour ago, LegoEdison said:

RE is retired in EU. what are the chances Mexico is making it for another 1.5 years along with other JW set? RE is Wal-Mart exclusive, is there any other XX exclusive have a production run short like this?

Ahem there may be life in the puppy yet, it was retired, then it moved to c2c and now it is sold out.  Next career move - TOOS.....