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10188 - UCS: Death Star


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  1. 1. How many sealed Death Stars do you own?

    • 0
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    • 1 - 2
      286
    • 3 - 4
      64
    • 5 - 9
      44
    • 10 - 15
      19
    • 16 - 20
      6
    • 21 - 25
      2
    • 26 - 50+
      27
  2. 2. Do you believe the set will make a great investment?

    • Yes
      349
    • No
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    • Maybe
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  3. 3. Will it ever retire?

    • Sure, soon as I fire my Photon Torpedo.
      475
    • Nope, I'll be dead before that happens.
      77
    • Perhaps, when Hell freezes over.
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That was my point a few months ago when the 'new improved DS rerelease' scare was in full effect.  I mean, a DS with a fully operational planet-destroying death ray (and if it doesn't have one, why remake the DS at all?) would have to retail for at least $1000.  Plus it would only be legal in Texas.

Ted Nugent will go hunting with it. 

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My 2 cents. (IMHO)  It is done.  A large company, or small company would continue to stock pile orders on this set if this was going to go into another production run.  Every day it sits is another Day Lego is not doing back orders on it.  In effect, they could have just flipped it over to "Temporarily out of stock" collected 500 orders a day on it and then execute a production run to fill those orders with guaranteed sales and profit.  They choose not to do these.  They have made a decision to use the production capacity for other, more profitable activity.  Production Capacity is limited and their future plans call for this capacity to be used on other production runs.  They are not looking a week or two down the road.  They are planning capacity runs for 12 to 18 months down the road. 

 

Look at the Simpson house.  It wasn't retired.  There will be another run on the Simpson house.  The production plan calls for it.  It is just a question of when.    Other sets will have a future run as well (R5, Pet Shop).  They treat them differently when they plan future activity but they just are not sure when.  Also, they know there will be runs because they have agreements with retailers they have to live up to.  Delivery must be made by x date on 10,000 units, 15,000 units etc.  The agreements between Lego and Target, Walmart, TRU are massive contracts with multiple delivery's, penalties for performance, etc.  I know we look at this at a micro level when it is our cash in the game but my inventory is a drop compared to other collectors, investors and retailers.   

If this was not done it would not be tagged as sold out.  (IMHO)

 

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I was thinking... that IF the new (improved) DS comes out at the end of 2016... will Lego make use of the microfigures like in the UCS Helicarrier? This could potentially change the whole concept of a Lego Death Star without even hurting the current one.

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While having SW microfigures would be awesome. I don't think the scale would work to be anymore realistic than the way it is now. I mean the DS is huge, minifgures would have to be smaller than a stud for it to make sense. Maybe I am wrong but I think a whole x wing would fit inside a 1x1 plate of a death star the size of the current one. 

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New old lego sets just do not appreciate well see this one

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000FTXNRI/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

 

I remember when that was available at retail.  I thought, 'that thing is seriously ugly'.  I still think that.  Anyway, why would I want a model of something that got blown up before it was even finished?  At least DS 1 took out Alderaan first.

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New old lego sets just do not appreciate well see this one

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000FTXNRI/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

 

my 2 cents. it's a different era in our hobby.  less production, only a couple of years at retail, fewer bought to remain as MISBs, and far, far fewer lego resellers on ebay back then.

i think it will be a dark day in mud when a modern MISB lego set sells for $2k on amazon.  i'm talking 2010 / 2011 and newer sets.  10188 could have been a contender if not for the long shelf life and most likely upcoming refresh.

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my 2 cents. it's a different era in our hobby.  less production, only a couple of years at retail, fewer bought to remain as MISBs, and far, far fewer lego resellers on ebay back then.

i think it will be a dark day in mud when a modern MISB lego set sells for $2k on amazon.  i'm talking 2010 / 2011 and newer sets.  10188 could have been a contender if not for the long shelf life and most likely upcoming refresh.

Dark days are nice. Dark days mean money.. i likes money.,.. Therefore i likes dark days.. :D

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3rd person ? come on. i thought only trek does that.
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my 2 cents. it's a different era in our hobby.  less production, only a couple of years at retail, fewer bought to remain as MISBs, and far, far fewer lego resellers on ebay back then.

i think it will be a dark day in mud when a modern MISB lego set sells for $2k on amazon.  i'm talking 2010 / 2011 and newer sets.  10188 could have been a contender if not for the long shelf life and most likely upcoming refresh.

Jais I think your comments are well said.  I have no idea where 10188 will go probably not $2,000 any time soon if there is another one maybe not ever.  that being said I think people that say you can't make money unless you sell it for $650 are wrong.  I am holding mine medium or long term but I have a friend that went out and bought a bunch last week at a healthy discount and is almost done selling them all will pickup margin and move on.  eBay is already 1 at 550 then 559 and Amazon is 568.  The set will do fine.

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Jais I think your comments are well said.  I have no idea where 10188 will go probably not $2,000 any time soon if there is another one maybe not ever.  that being said I think people that say you can't make money unless you sell it for $650 are wrong.  I am holding mine medium or long term but I have a friend that went out and bought a bunch last week at a healthy discount and is almost done selling them all will pickup margin and move on.  eBay is already 1 at 550 then 559 and Amazon is 568.  The set will do fine.

I have mine listed at $2K. I'm ready to go.

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i don't own many 10188s as i wouldn't pay over $280 for them (had to wait for promos, reward points to accumulate, etc... and then there were "better" sets to buy like HH, AA and THs).  despite my buy-in price, i still wouldn't sell for under $550 unless my hand was forced.  not worth my time nor hassle.  as long as the newbie seller don't undercut each other (which they will :( ), it could def hit $800+ by the time a refresh arrives. 

 

i'm sure many others here feel the same about our "goal" sell price.

 

 

Thinking 700$ this holiday season, maybe $800 tops .

 

Jais I think your comments are well said.  I have no idea where 10188 will go probably not $2,000 any time soon if there is another one maybe not ever.  that being said I think people that say you can't make money unless you sell it for $650 are wrong.  I am holding mine medium or long term but I have a friend that went out and bought a bunch last week at a healthy discount and is almost done selling them all will pickup margin and move on.  eBay is already 1 at 550 then 559 and Amazon is 568.  The set will do fine.

 

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It's being restocked in the EU. They have already wiped out the steep buying curve from the last 2 days. They've only added 100 or so so far, but expecting to be a bigger run. Certainly not done in Europe anyhow. 

I won't be surprise if we see these small restocks in North America until this is sold out world wide

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You also have to bear in mind the EU stock levels are slightly delayed, so they actually started producing more even before sold out in U.S.  

I won't be surprise if we see these small restocks in North America until this is sold out world wide

red five was like this. It's just had another huge restock to over 700. 

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