Alpinemaps Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Let's play a little philosophical investing game tonight - which would you rather? Here are the guidelines: - You can only choose one or the other. - Assume that you could have picked up either of these within the last month at RRP. - I will give you no other information than what you see below, BUT - you are free to use all your resources to make a decision (Brickpicker, eBay, Amazon, etc). I encourage you to make a strong, rational argument with the information that you have at your disposal today. Which would you rather: 9 Sets of Mixels Series 1 or 1 SSD 10221? - 9 Sets of Mixels Series cost $405 ($5 per Mixels times 9 Mixels in a set x 9 sets). - 1 SSD cost $400 - Both sets are now retired I will throw in my two cents in a little while. Curious to hear your thoughts first. (And, if this is well received, maybe we play this game again soon). Quote
Guest brickcrazyhouse Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 I'ld go mixels. reasons: 1. first in a series, like modulars or other first in series as more people start their collections the ones they miss are more coveted. 2. not hoarded as much by resellers (not on emazers radar) 3. easier shipping mixels for shixels Quote
darksam007 Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Pretty good question. I would say Mixels for now, but over the long term I have a feeling SSD will be the better investment. Quote
sroster Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 SSD for me and I am a believer in Mixels. I think the amount of SSDs hoarded is overstated. Probably the people that have cases of Mixels aren't posting pictures of them and showing them off as much as SSD hoarders. I disagree on the shipping, think how many different auctions and labels printed and packages to find for all those Mixels (even if you sell them as sets) versus one big box, well packed and out the door. I think once series 3 runs its course not that many future customers are going to want to go back and get those retired Mixels. The ones that are buying series 3 in the stores now and then realize Series 1 is retired will pay but I think there is a limit there. Maybe 3x MSRP? 4x Max? Then I think they might just assume get a nice expensive set for that kind of money. Meanwhile I think the SSD will climb well over 1k and not look back. It will be a must have for any serious SW collector, it isn't like it was out for ages like the DS and SW collectors pay premiums for the good stuff. I just don't think there will be the kind of ceiling you might encounter with Mixels... Quote
Alpinemaps Posted September 4, 2014 Author Posted September 4, 2014 I disagree on the shipping, think how many different auctions and labels printed and packages to find for all those Mixels (even if you sell them as sets) versus one big box, well packed and out the door. I'm still not posting my thoughts, but, I will say this: I was able to package, print, and ship 3 boxes of 3 sets of Mixels in about 3 minutes tonight. (That's actually what got me thinking about this topic). A 6x6x6 box, one label, throw 9 Mixels in said box, tape it up. Done. Quote
joch29 Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 ssd..stronger and more recognizable. never got into mixels, I 'm guessing it will be forgotten in a few years but ppl will still know about ssd. also I rather not have to go through the hassle of the sales of 9 sets of mixels. I'll take the one sale with SSD and run with the profits. Quote
TheOrcKing Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Ah, the "Would you rather" game. I remember playing this one a while back here. Hmm, I would go with the Mixels just to see how BIG of a Mixel could be built with 81 of them. It sure would be flexible and imagine all the colors! A whole lot of eyes though. That may get weird. :blink: Quote
Jules_K Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 SSD, I wouldn't want to run the risk of going to the post office 81 times. :-) 1 Quote
hendrikdejager Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 I go with the Mixels. I got 120x of Series 1 and i hope to sell em for $15 each, or $90 for a set of 9 Quote
Alpinemaps Posted September 4, 2014 Author Posted September 4, 2014 SSD, I wouldn't want to run the risk of going to the post office 81 times. :-) I guess I should have been clearer in the OP - I'm implying that you've got 9 sets and that you're not splitting them up into 81 items. Quote
teamhappyfrog Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 What is the time frame for recouping the initial spend/profit for the investment? Just throwing this out there but, if you just had the pure dollar amount of each investment you could nab a lot more mixels for that price, using coupons etc... One other thing to consider is play-ability, the mixels can all be combined to make a 4th mixel for each set. I personally like mixels and just built on last night. I would probably do the SSD, just because I have more of a interest in SW's and my taste/preference influences some of the the items I hold onto longer. Quote
Alpinemaps Posted September 4, 2014 Author Posted September 4, 2014 What is the time frame for recouping the initial spend/profit for the investment? Just throwing this out there but, if you just had the pure dollar amount of each investment you could nab a lot more mixels for that price, using coupons etc... I purposely didn't set a rule for that. Everyone has their own thoughts on how long they may hold onto a set. Quote
Alpinemaps Posted September 4, 2014 Author Posted September 4, 2014 So, my thoughts.... I don't know that there's a right or wrong answer to this. This past week, I've been flipping Mixels Series 1 sets for 2x RRP. Some of these sets I've been holding onto since June. Others, I held onto for less than 24 hours. I'm approaching a similar cost on Mixels, as I would on one SSD. And that's part of what got me thinking about this topic. In three months time, I've doubled my money, for the same cost as owning an SSD. (Yes, I've been able to pick up both an SSD and Series 1 Mixels within the last three weeks). Short term, the SSD isn't at 2x RRP. And, if I'd be holding onto an SSD for longer than a few months, and I was worried about cash flow, then maybe that would be a problem. (Personally, the SSD was a long hold item for me). For me, I'm willing to hold onto the SSD until it gets well over 2x RRP. I don't believe Mixels Series 1 is going much higher than it is now. But who knows? I could be wrong about that. It was just an interesting thought/reflection that I've been able to quickly flip (which is not something I normally do, either). 1 Quote
Tilted Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 I think, for the long haul, I'd pick the SSD but I'm very confident series 1 will do extremely well. If they go for $150 this Christmas, it'll be a 200%+ ROI and I don't even think that price target is a stretch: Quote
Tilted Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) ... and, with all the Asian sellers out... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtKADQnjQmc#t=1m10s Edited September 5, 2014 by Tilted Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 So, my thoughts.... I don't know that there's a right or wrong answer to this. This past week, I've been flipping Mixels Series 1 sets for 2x RRP. Some of these sets I've been holding onto since June. Others, I held onto for less than 24 hours. I'm approaching a similar cost on Mixels, as I would on one SSD. And that's part of what got me thinking about this topic. In three months time, I've doubled my money, for the same cost as owning an SSD. (Yes, I've been able to pick up both an SSD and Series 1 Mixels within the last three weeks). Short term, the SSD isn't at 2x RRP. And, if I'd be holding onto an SSD for longer than a few months, and I was worried about cash flow, then maybe that would be a problem. (Personally, the SSD was a long hold item for me). For me, I'm willing to hold onto the SSD until it gets well over 2x RRP. I don't believe Mixels Series 1 is going much higher than it is now. But who knows? I could be wrong about that. It was just an interesting thought/reflection that I've been able to quickly flip (which is not something I normally do, either). Hmm, technically you did not answer your own question based on the limitations you established. So, which one is it ? You can only choose one or the other, right ? If there was a loaded gun pointed on my head, I would choose the Mixels. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. Worst case scenario I would have 81 individual packs to give away to 81 people for the holidays Quote
No More Monkeys Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Hmm, technically you did not answer your own question based on the limitations you established. So, which one is it ? You can only choose one or the other, right ? If there was a loaded gun pointed on my head, I would choose the Mixels. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. Worst case scenario I would have 81 individual packs to give away to 81 people for the holidays If loaded gun is involved, I would recommend SSD, because that's 18 pounds of blunt force trauma right there 1 Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) If loaded gun is involved, I would recommend SSD, because that's 18 pounds of blunt force trauma right there Last time I checked, a bullet was still faster than me And I have added about 15 pounds to my frame since then :( Edited September 5, 2014 by Darth_Raichu Quote
No More Monkeys Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Last time I checked, a bullet was still faster than me And I have added about 15 pounds to my frame since then :( SSD has hyperdrive Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 SSD has hyperdrive One wrong calculation, it flies right through a star or bounce to a supernova. I am out $400 and still have a loaded gun pointing at me Quote
No More Monkeys Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 One wrong calculation, it flies right through a star or bounce to a supernova. I am out $400 and still have a loaded gun pointing at me Beep-bip-beep-bip-bip-beeeeeep Quote
Alpinemaps Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 Hmm, technically you did not answer your own question based on the limitations you established. So, which one is it ? You can only choose one or the other, right ? If there was a loaded gun pointed on my head, I would choose the Mixels. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. Worst case scenario I would have 81 individual packs to give away to 81 people for the holidays You're right, I didn't answer my own question. I just gotta told you what's happened to me in the last month. If I had to choose one or the other, I'd go with the Mixels for the same reason. The quick return on my money. Larger delta on supply vs demand, today. As of this moment in time, I could take $400 worth of Mixels, flip them for $800, buy someone's SSD for $650, have $150 in my pocket, and sell the SSD when it's higher than $800, and have even more money in my pocket (or put all that money back into investing). Hmmm.... If loaded gun is involved, I would recommend SSD, because that's 18 pounds of blunt force trauma right there Not just 18 pounds of BFT, but a potentially good bullet proof vest. Quote
mtgmike Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 i'm going to go with the Mixels, as they've been good for me. am almost out of series 1 though. but i like whoever suggested 20 research institutes as well. i'd even probably take a 50/50 mix with series 2 mixels, as they've been selling as well. i am fond of the easy ship items. Quote
No More Monkeys Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 i'm going to go with the Mixels, as they've been good for me. am almost out of series 1 though. but i like whoever suggested 20 research institutes as well. i'd even probably take a 50/50 mix with series 2 mixels, as they've been selling as well. i am fond of the easy ship items.I was joking about RIs, though I did have a point - finding complete sets of series 1 is not a trivial feat Quote
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