Roy vd M. Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Sure they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete411 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, Jdsomer said: If you can get hold of these are they worth picking up?? Like you have a credit card and click buy on a website? Uhh, sure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armor Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Quote If you can get hold of these are they worth picking up?? Read through the thread and build your own opinion, don't buy something because someone else says its good and a worthwhile investment. I have picked stinkers in the past like forest ambush and I could lead you to make a bad choice in purchases. Edited January 22, 2016 by Armor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysbricks Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 56 minutes ago, Armor said: So sellers buying from other sellers is all well and good if you want to quick flip but for a long healthy grow, that is not the greatest thing to happen to any product. I am worried that the slave and tumbler will turn into a AA for 5 years due to the mass amount of new people buying the set and then wanting to get their money back with a 10% profit margin. Resellers buying from resellers is the best outcome once the supply is fixed. Supply remains unchanged, demand remains unchanged, and the minimum price to break even has increased. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdfan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 46 minutes ago, Jdsomer said: If you can get hold of these are they worth picking up?? "these" being Slave I or Tumbler...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdsomer Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 33 minutes ago, dcdfan said: "these" being Slave I or Tumbler...? Slave I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinchuan Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Jdsomer said: If you can get hold of these are they worth picking up?? Yep. But if you order them online, they can actually save you the trouble by sending them to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdsomer Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 22 minutes ago, Yinchuan said: Yep. But if you order them online, they can actually save you the trouble by sending them to you. Really!!!! out of stock basically everywhere in UK. Was kinda meaning if I happened by chance to stumble across a store with any in while out and about would you buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaisonline Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Resellers buying from resellers is the best outcome once the supply is fixed. Supply remains unchanged, demand remains unchanged, and the minimum price to break even has increased. I'm thinking about what you typed based on my old economics courses. Resellers buying from each other. This diff should raise prices. However, if demand and supply remain unchanged, how does that help? Something has to give between supply and demand. Supply needs to decrease or demand needs to increase (or bast case is both happens). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdfan Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 "these" being Slave I or Tumbler...? Slave I I'd probably focus on something else that's closer to retiring first. Unless you're looking for a lot of 'em or looking to build now. I'm pretty sure Slave I will be around for awhile... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinchuan Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 34 minutes ago, Jdsomer said: Really!!!! out of stock basically everywhere in UK. Was kinda meaning if I happened by chance to stumble across a store with any in while out and about would you buy them. If you can find a Tumbler in the wild, the. Without a doubt yes. But that's a big if. Not worth throwing money at Slave I yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipbee Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 33 minutes ago, jaisonline said: I'm thinking about what you typed based on my old economics courses. Resellers buying from each other. This diff should raise prices. However, if demand and supply remain unchanged, how does that help? Something has to give between supply and demand. Supply needs to decrease or demand needs to increase (or bast case is both happens). Yeap, and i think the key is whether over time, there will be enough people opening up the sets to build. Without builders, the supply will remain constant after retirement, waiting for the next greater fool to buy over. I think for the more popular SW sets we can be assured of constant stream of sets being "consumed" after set retirement. I am not entirely sure of Slave 1 at moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdsomer Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 47 minutes ago, dcdfan said: I'd probably focus on something else that's closer to retiring first. Unless you're looking for a lot of 'em or looking to build now. I'm pretty sure Slave I will be around for awhile... Thanks for the reply and advice, will do. 41 minutes ago, Yinchuan said: If you can find a Tumbler in the wild, the. Without a doubt yes. But that's a big if. Not worth throwing money at Slave I yet. Thanks for the reply and advice buddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysbricks Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaisonline said: I'm thinking about what you typed based on my old economics courses. Resellers buying from each other. This diff should raise prices. However, if demand and supply remain unchanged, how does that help? Something has to give between supply and demand. Supply needs to decrease or demand needs to increase (or bast case is both happens). It helps those already holding because their price is still fixed while the new seller's price has gone up. It they are buying after retirement they are likely paying over MSRP while you likely paid less than or equal to MSRP, so the delta in your price and their price is basically your competitive edge. Note that this doesn't affect the supply or demand side, but it does affect the cost to acquire and ultimately the price at which the new seller will sell. Edit Forgot another thing it does - It culls the cheapest inventory and should ultimately drive the price up. Edited January 23, 2016 by tonysbricks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcatsfan Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 hours ago, tonysbricks said: Resellers buying from resellers is the best outcome once the supply is fixed. Supply remains unchanged, demand remains unchanged, and the minimum price to break even has increased. THIS! The key is "once the supply is fixed". People keep bemoaning how many Tumblers or whatever set end up in Reseller's hands. However, once the set has ceased production it either A) doesn't matter if scalpers own them all, or B ) Might even be better because there's an increased perception of rarity for the folks that wanted to get it, but procrastinated till it was too late. Further, not everyone believes that Lego will ramp up production just because resellers are gobbling up too many sets. Even if you are prone to believe that, do you think that's happening with a significant enough amount to truly distort the supply demand curve after retirement? Some do, but i don't, especially for a set like the Tumbler or Slave I. 1 hour ago, jaisonline said: I'm thinking about what you typed based on my old economics courses. Resellers buying from each other. This diff should raise prices. However, if demand and supply remain unchanged, how does that help? Something has to give between supply and demand. Supply needs to decrease or demand needs to increase (or bast case is both happens). Demand and Supply do change after retirement, and that's where the patient brickpicker wins. After retirement, the procrastinators jump back in and every single day some new AFOL emerges from their dark ages and says, "WOW, they made that set!?!?!?" With Lego not making any more, the market shifts in the happy direction. 1 hour ago, dcdfan said: I'd probably focus on something else that's closer to retiring first. Unless you're looking for a lot of 'em or looking to build now. I'm pretty sure Slave I will be around for awhile... Agreed, but now is the time to slowly build your stash at discount. Gift cards, VIP points, free gifts with purchase, damaged box discounts, etc. I've already got 5 at an average of 175 each, and i'll keep buying them in that range, rather than being forced to gobble my entire target stash at full retail a year from now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copterman Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 On 1/23/2016 at 9:06 PM, mudcatsfan said: I've already got 5 at an average of 175 each, and i'll keep buying them in that range, rather than being forced to gobble my entire target stash at full retail a year from now. My understanding is exclusive sets do not go on sale. Best I can figure is to pay $199.99 with no tax/shipping on Amazon. What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladner Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 20 minutes ago, Copterman said: My understanding is exclusive sets do not go on sale. Best I can figure is to pay $199.99 with no tax/shipping on Amazon. What am I missing? - double VIP points with a holiday promo at LEGO Shop at Home. - gift cards with rewards at TRU. - bn membership, buy it instore for shipping to your house with membership 10% discount and a discount gift card for another 10-12%. haven't tried this jedi-mind trick but have heard it works. - rare one-off sales/price mistakes - case in point target 15%+ off sale one afternoon like 2months ago that included all exclusives and was very very expensive day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcatsfan Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Copterman said: My understanding is exclusive sets do not go on sale. Best I can figure is to pay $199.99 with no tax/shipping on Amazon. What am I missing? 2 hours ago, cladner said: - double VIP points with a holiday promo at LEGO Shop at Home. - gift cards with rewards at TRU. - bn membership, buy it instore for shipping to your house with membership 10% discount and a discount gift card for another 10-12%. haven't tried this jedi-mind trick but have heard it works. - rare one-off sales/price mistakes - case in point target 15%+ off sale one afternoon like 2months ago that included all exclusives and was very very expensive day. Like Clad said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrymc4677 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 2 hours ago, cladner said: - rare one-off sales/price mistakes - case in point target 15%+ off sale one afternoon like 2months ago that included all exclusives and was very very expensive day. I didn't get home from work until early evening that day. I'm usually home between 2-3 pm. By the time I read the thread it was too late. If I remember correctly, they had a limit of three on each set. I had a $3k order locked and loaded, but by the time I hit submit it was too late and they already fixed their mistake. Still ticks me off that the one day in forever I wind up working late I missed out on that opportunity...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcatsfan Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 40 minutes ago, terrymc4677 said: I didn't get home from work until early evening that day. I'm usually home between 2-3 pm. By the time I read the thread it was too late. If I remember correctly, they had a limit of three on each set. I had a $3k order locked and loaded, but by the time I hit submit it was too late and they already fixed their mistake. Still ticks me off that the one day in forever I wind up working late I missed out on that opportunity...lol. I'm pretty sure there's a life lesson in there, but i'm too obtuse to find it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 21 hours ago, Copterman said: My understanding is exclusive sets do not go on sale. Best I can figure is to pay $199.99 with no tax/shipping on Amazon. What am I missing? I bought three of them for 140 euro each in october, flipped two of them for 190 euro each and kept the third one in stock. I'm hoping the same store will do this again anytime soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somsonn Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 what store was that? I searching for local stores in Belgium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Leveller Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Probably Dreamland.be. I bought one for 144 euro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyke Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I bought three of them for 140 euro each in october, flipped two of them for 190 euro each and kept the third one in stock. I'm hoping the same store will do this again anytime soon Where did you buy them? I bought one for €183, but I'm looking for more on a better price. Stock is getting low here.... When is this going EOL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 9 hours ago, Freyke said: Where did you buy them? I bought one for €183, but I'm looking for more on a better price. Stock is getting low here.... When is this going EOL? Colruyt/Dreamland had three crazy 30% on everything weeks in october, unfortunately I didn't have the investment money I now have or I would've bought a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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