Miami Bomb Squad Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 ravenb99, Due to my Avatar, I didn't want to insinuate FSU should be #1. I think is because of Winston's shenanigans. People and voters need to understand that its very difficult for any sports program to go undefeated with a bullseye on your back. This task is very difficult to achieve. In an argument for winning in the last qtr or winning by a few points and not dominating the whole game, How many Basketball Championships are won with only one point or the final shot? Just like you said: " A win is a Win " How come Bama lost to Miss & almost lost to Arkansas. Oregon lost to Arizona ( I dont even want to get into it with Oregon, I think they are overrated ) I think Georiga, Clemson or Auburn can beat Oregon. Ohio State lost to Virgina Tech. and has a weak schedule. Lets see what Happens, all 4 teams are good. They have their strength and weaknesses, its really a coaching game now. Preparation will win the Trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskers1236 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 ravenb99, Due to my Avatar, I didn't want to insinuate FSU should be #1. I think is because of Winston's shenanigans. People and voters need to understand that its very difficult for any sports program to go undefeated with a bullseye on your back. This task is very difficult to achieve. In an argument for winning in the last qtr or winning by a few points and not dominating the whole game, How many Basketball Championships are won with only one point or the final shot? Just like you said: " A win is a Win " How come Bama lost to Miss & almost lost to Arkansas. Oregon lost to Arizona ( I dont even want to get into it with Oregon, I think they are overrated ) I think Georiga, Clemson or Auburn can beat Oregon. Ohio State lost to Virgina Tech. and has a weak schedule. Lets see what Happens, all 4 teams are good. They have their strength and weaknesses, its really a coaching game now. Preparation will win the Trophy. Holy crap the southeast bias is strong with this one. Georgia? Clemson? Those teams are frigging terrible. The whole SEC East and ACC were terrible this year, so was the BIG. Auburn is the only one of the 3 that would hang with Oregon. The sweet tea has gone to your head. Big 12 got hosed, but it was their own doing. I don't argue with OSU getting in ahead of them, but it didn't feel right for them to jump in after TCU curbstomped ISU the last week and Baylor beat up on KSU. Those aren't saying much, though. OSU beating Wisconsin with their 3rd string QB(at the start of the season before Braxton Miller got hurt) was amazing. Wisconsin's D is for real, ask LSU. Only reason LSU won that game was Wisky's offense is terrible unless your coach is Bo Pelini which fortunately we got rid of. Bottom line, I think the field should be 6-8 teams. Auto qualifiers for winning your power 5 conference. I have had heated arguments with folks about this and there are pros/cons to each side, but at the end of the day I think it works best. Use the big 4 bowls as quarterfinals and go from there the next 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_bricks Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Holy crap the southeast bias is strong with this one. Georgia? Clemson? Those teams are frigging terrible. The whole SEC East and ACC were terrible this year, so was the BIG. Auburn is the only one of the 3 that would hang with Oregon. The sweet tea has gone to your head. Big 12 got hosed, but it was their own doing. I don't argue with OSU getting in ahead of them, but it didn't feel right for them to jump in after TCU curbstomped ISU the last week and Baylor beat up on KSU. Those aren't saying much, though. OSU beating Wisconsin with their 3rd string QB(at the start of the season before Braxton Miller got hurt) was amazing. Wisconsin's D is for real, ask LSU. Only reason LSU won that game was Wisky's offense is terrible unless your coach is Bo Pelini which fortunately we got rid of. Bottom line, I think the field should be 6-8 teams. Auto qualifiers for winning your power 5 conference. I have had heated arguments with folks about this and there are pros/cons to each side, but at the end of the day I think it works best. Use the big 4 bowls as quarterfinals and go from there the next 2 weeks. I agree with most of this. If you want to gauge the SEC East's strength, look at Mizzou. They couldn't win in the Big 12, so they left and are now "good". I'm not going to lie, I'm a Big 12 fan and I'm not going to whine about the TCU/Baylor thing, but I do believe had it been OU or Texas in the same position, OSU would not have bumped them. I'm glad there was "controversy" this first year, I thought there should have been eight teams from the start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenb99 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 ravenb99, Due to my Avatar, I didn't want to insinuate FSU should be #1. I think is because of Winston's shenanigans. People and voters need to understand that its very difficult for any sports program to go undefeated with a bullseye on your back. This task is very difficult to achieve. In an argument for winning in the last qtr or winning by a few points and not dominating the whole game, How many Basketball Championships are won with only one point or the final shot? Just like you said: " A win is a Win " How come Bama lost to Miss & almost lost to Arkansas. Oregon lost to Arizona ( I dont even want to get into it with Oregon, I think they are overrated ) I think Georiga, Clemson or Auburn can beat Oregon. Ohio State lost to Virgina Tech. and has a weak schedule. Lets see what Happens, all 4 teams are good. They have their strength and weaknesses, its really a coaching game now. Preparation will win the Trophy. I really do think this is the most wide open year with no one being to strong. No insuation taken, that's just my feeling. If your undefeated you still should be higher ranked than a 1 loss team. Everyone thinks there conference is better or worse. I don't buy that argument. They all play a few cupcakes. They all play a few ranked teams at one point or another in the season. They'll always be debate about that. Just win your games and you usually come out on top. When you lose 1 you start needing to many situations to come about to get in. Every team has a close call or 2 against subpar teams especially when in the top 5. Like you said a big target. As good as the 2009 Alabama team was it took 2 blocked FG's in the 4th quarter against TN to pull out a measly 12-10 win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justapilgrim Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 OSU QB was third string. And yes big 12 is their own fault for not even declaring Baylor champ per their bylaws or grabbing 2 more teams like every other conference (BSU, BYU, Cinncy, CSU, UCON all could work) did so they could have a conference champ Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Brickpicker mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickleboy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I would like to remind everyone that two mediocre Big12 teams seem to be doing just fine in the SEC.... And yes, Choklahoma had a TERRIBLE year.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miami Bomb Squad Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) Holy crap the southeast bias is strong with this one. Georgia? Clemson? Those teams are frigging terrible. The whole SEC East and ACC were terrible this year, so was the BIG. Auburn is the only one of the 3 that would hang with Oregon. The sweet tea has gone to your head. Big 12 got hosed, but it was their own doing. I don't argue with OSU getting in ahead of them, but it didn't feel right for them to jump in after TCU curbstomped ISU the last week and Baylor beat up on KSU. Those aren't saying much, though. OSU beating Wisconsin with their 3rd string QB(at the start of the season before Braxton Miller got hurt) was amazing. Wisconsin's D is for real, ask LSU. Only reason LSU won that game was Wisky's offense is terrible unless your coach is Bo Pelini which fortunately we got rid of. Southeast bias? You have got to me kidding me? The West is Dead. If you take out Pete Carroll's USC in 2004, You would have to go back 30 years to BYU, then back again to 1972 USC again. (Split Championships don't count) All others were mostly won by a Southern Teams. Whether people want to accept it or not, The South is the powerhouse in Football. I think you lost me when you said "Wisconsin's D is for real". What ranked team allows 59 points and scores doughnut! I think The Dessert Heat has gotten to your head. Yes, Maybe I was exaggerating with Clemson. Just want to get my point across. Edited December 12, 2014 by Miami Bomb Squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubzero Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I agree with most of this. If you want to gauge the SEC East's strength, look at Mizzou. They couldn't win in the Big 12, so they left and are now "good". I'm not going to lie, I'm a Big 12 fan and I'm not going to whine about the TCU/Baylor thing, but I do believe had it been OU or Texas in the same position, OSU would not have bumped them. I'm glad there was "controversy" this first year, I thought there should have been eight teams from the start. The SEC East needs to have its pulse checked. It's been horrible for a couple of years. Not for long though. My Gators are coming back. Coach Mac knows how to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_bricks Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 OSU QB was third string. And yes big 12 is their own fault for not even declaring Baylor champ per their bylaws or grabbing 2 more teams like every other conference (BSU, BYU, Cinncy, CSU, UCON all could work) did so they could have a conference champ Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Brickpicker mobile app It's also about money. When conference Armageddon was going on I read several fan sites, which can be very unreliable but also show some different perspectives. None of those teams are going to add "value" to the conference in terms of marketability or more TV dollars. There really is no incentive in bringing in some weak teams, beating up on them, and then sharing the money with them. We had a conference championship for a long time and there wasn't the whining that there is now about the other conferences not having one, which I believe is a NCAA rule, not a conference one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskers1236 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Southeast bias? You have got to me kidding me? The West is Dead. If you take out Pete Carroll's USC in 2004, You would have to go back 30 years to BYU, then back again to 1972 USC again. (Split Championships don't count) All others were mostly won by a Southern Teams. Whether people want to accept it or not, The South is the powerhouse in Football. I think you lost me when you said "Wisconsin's D is for real". What ranked team allows 59 points and scores doughnut! I think The Dessert Heat has gotten to your head. Yes, Maybe I was exaggerating with Clemson. Just want to get my point across. That doesn't mean a damn thing, I'm talking about Oregon 2014, not any other year. I'm not a PAC-12 apologist, I live in Nebraska and follow our football team, not the PAC. I never once said that the SEC is not the best in football, but to throw out some crap Georgia and Clemson team and say they would beat Oregon is downright absurd. Wisconsin was the #4 overall D in the nation going into that game, yes, they have a very good defense, no matter what conference they play in. It's one game, are you going to say that Alabama's D is terrible because they gave up about half a hundred to Auburn? Doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miami Bomb Squad Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Wisconsin D was #4 because they played High School teams ie..Bowling Green, Rutgers, Western Ill, South Fla, Maryland. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justapilgrim Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 So you are claiming Texas as south? And not west? Or southwest? Just saying Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Brickpicker mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justapilgrim Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I call Oregon winning this year, most everyone is healthy Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Brickpicker mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskers1236 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Wisconsin D was #4 because they played High School teams ie..Bowling Green, Rutgers, Western Ill, South Fla, Maryland. Sounds eerily similar to the entire SEC's nonconference. Also, the SEC East may be the one of the worst divisions in football. For God's sake, Indiana beat up on the team who represented them in Missouri. We can go back and forth all day, but in the end, the SEC is the best because they have the best in their backyard and are more than willing to bend rules. They also have some of the best coaching down there and climate to allow year round practice and training wherever they like. If you dispute that, you are not paying attention or are dilusional. Also, Nebraska won 3 titles in that time, my thermometer says we are not south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustybeaver Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 I call Oregon winning this year, most everyone is healthy I'm with you on this call, Oregon are the real deal and think we are about to see a two game masterclass. Poll on ESPN is interesting:http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=ncf&pollId=4618678 West voting Oregon, East Bama, Texas divided and Ohio voting... Yeah you guessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeFanDan Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Go Bucks!!! Great win over Alabama!! Bring on Oregon! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciter1 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Go Bucks!!! Great win over Alabama!! Bring on Oregon! Pretty remarkable and they do believe. Go Bucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quacs Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Happy for the Buckeyes - congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storckie Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Go Buckeyes! Bring on the ducks! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskers1236 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The day is here, what are everybody's picks? I'm not going out on a limb to say I think it will be a high scoring game. Oregon 45 Ohio St. 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justapilgrim Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I just like to see that Arizona icon huskes (I'm BSU alumni) Oregon by 12+ Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Brickpicker mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysbricks Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Betting wise I am taking OSU and the under. OSU can win outright but they have to grind just like Tressel did in the 2003 game vs. Miami. Only way to counter the OU offense is to keep them off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeFanDan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ohio State of course! I think it will be close but the Buckeyes find a way to get the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysbricks Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Betting wise I am taking OSU and the under. OSU can win outright but they have to grind just like Tressel did in the 2003 game vs. Miami. Only way to counter the OU offense is to keep them off the field. taking OSU - check the under - check OSU can win outright - check have to grind - check Been a good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciter1 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Incredible! Congrats Buckeyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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