Sauromosis Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 It seems like there's a large variance in dark blue and dark red, I have even noticed it in the light blue of the Pet Shop. Why is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojoyojimbi Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) cause they make the bricks in china now Edited August 24, 2014 by Grolim profanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberLogic Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Wow that is aweful. Haven't put together my Pet Shop yet and am now afraid when I do I will see this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Wow that is aweful. Haven't put together my Pet Shop yet and am now afraid when I do I will see this. The pet shop isn't as bad as the first few modulars. I also wonder if the plastic in those is starting to break down or absorb UV rays. I read where some very old Legos are disintegrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregpj Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sometimes google can be your friend... http://thebrickblogger.com/2011/02/lego-colors-introduction/ What's the real reason? Color is injected into the mold at the same time as the ABS pellets. They used to used pre-colored pellets. Some have criticized the QC in China but by all accounts they are using the same equipment over there... What is theorized is that Lego uses a China-sourced ABS in China which is lesser quality. The pet shop isn't as bad as the first few modulars. I also wonder if the plastic in those is starting to break down or absorb UV rays. I read where some very old Legos are disintegrating. Bromine is also added to the mix when molding a piece to reduce the flammability of the ABS but unfortunately that chemical is apparently quite susceptible to UV rays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberLogic Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Wow thanks for the info. That is one hell of an informative article. I had no idea of the history of the colors. Such a shame that it seems like we are now living in the time of the worst colors when due to advances and technology and such you would just assume we were living in the best time for colors and QC. Very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Why google when I have you to make it look so pretty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregpj Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Why google when I have you to make it look so pretty? I need moar posts anyways... I'm not a fan of the Brickulator title or picture. For some reason it has always bothered me. Truth be told, I read your post yesterday but after jojo's comment about China I felt the need to respond. Although there appears to be some truth to the quality of the ABS used, the reality is that the color variance you asked about has more to do with manufacturing technique than anything else. Lego has quite a fascinating history when you consider all the ways they've tried to save money... Hollow inner tubes and thinner sidewalls especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard74 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I am not too bothered by this. In reality, all bricks of a house aren't the exact same tone either. By all means, buy a Pet Shop and build it. Great set! Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met behulp van Brickpicker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TabbyBoy Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 There's been variations for a while which tells me that Lego's once excellent standards have dropped. I bought about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorboy Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 There's been variations for a while which tells me that Lego's once excellent standards have dropped. I bought about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregpj Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I guess it's time to pull out my old space Lego from the 80s to compare! Maybe I'm just not the perfectionist as some with Lego, but I honestly have to say that it doesn't bother me. I've only found a couple bricks with poor clutch power (unfortunately they were both head bricks that just didn't hold the neck stud well) and don't sit looking so close at the models that the color variation is noticeable. What I do notice is that if the Lego bricks aren't perfectly aligned (especially those dastardly 1x1s) that the reflection you get from light can cause bricks to look hugely different. When you shine a light directly on them from up close the color difference is much less. I do notice this on the modular buildings especially with colors like dark brown and red (which are the hardest colors to make anyway). Besides... when you're kids like to smash things and interchange parts, you spend more time reassembling than admiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Can anyone with a CC and a Pet Shop confirm that the dark red slopes on the CC look much lighter than the ones on Pet Shop? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregpj Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 They are totally different with the CC ones being a deep red and the PS ones being more brown. Sent from Multi-Post iPod touch using Brickpicker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 They are totally different with the CC ones being a deep red and the PS ones being more brown. Sent from Multi-Post iPod touch using Brickpicker Thanks much, really helps me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregpj Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Thanks much, really helps me. Here are some comparison shots... I hope they make it easier not harder. Two without flash, two with. Sent from Multi-Post iPod touch using Brickpicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Thanks...the CC ones look more "translucent" to me, the Pet Shop more solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO2SEVEN Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I am not too bothered by this. In reality, all bricks of a house aren't the exact same tone either. By all means, buy a Pet Shop and build it. Great set! Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met behulp van Brickpicker I had the same thought. I haven't seen any noticeable variance in my Petshop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citymorgue Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 My experience has been different with what i buy. For boxed sets, I've rarely noticed significant variances in colors. Now when i bricklinked my 10179 mf, there were definite variances. Some pieces were pretty translucent, some not so much. Some have clear crisp lego wording on studs, some not so much. Lego doesn't use the same exact mold forever. So i can see differences through the different batches/years. As far as pieces breaking, I've only ever had those stupid cheese slopes crack on either the thick or thin end. I don't know what it is but I've had like 10 crack on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard74 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Yes those 1x1 sloped pieces have cracked on me a couple times also, luckily you usually get some extra of those. Parts truly breaking hasn't happened to me in my adult life, since I don't really play with my sets other than rearranging how I display them. But it happened fairly often when I was a kid. Usually minifigure hands, grips of shields etc. Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met behulp van Brickpicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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