brickelements Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 For the naysayers out there. I will trade some fine 10221 for 76023. I have (6) 10221 with two still in the factory Lego shipping box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_676 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) How many is some Edited January 5, 2016 by josh_676 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxman Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, brad4815 said: Am I missing something about discounts? Aside from Target's 15% the other month how are you getting discounts on exclusives? You can get a pretty good discount on this set by winning the Brickpicker Fantasy Baseball league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherJB Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 31 minutes ago, inversion said: A long time ago I said on this very same forum that people are trying to make themselves to believe that they are making a good decision by doing whatever. By saying all of these they are attempting to make their doubts to disappear by seeking support on their comments. Cognitive dissonance, just gotta love it seeing it at work. This forum is a prime example. I agree. I read a lot about the Sea Cow and nearly got scared out of buying them up. I have been making 50-60% off my sea cows so far in the past 3 days of selling. This tumbler is a no brainer. Watching both sides of the argument is quite interesting. I will do what is right and will make myself believe I am making the right decision by buying another 10 today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego rules Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 28 minutes ago, brickelements said: For the naysayers out there. I will trade some fine 10221 for 76023. I have (6) 10221 with two still in the factory Lego shipping box. The naysayers don't have any tumblers to trade! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 53 minutes ago, brickelements said: For the naysayers out there. I will trade some fine 10221 for 76023. I have (6) 10221 with two still in the factory Lego shipping box. I will trade you a NISB Tumbler for a NISB SSD right now. What's your address? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickelements Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Marx I imagine you would. One for one is obviously not a good business decision for me. Current values suggest a ~4.5 tumblers to one SSD. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brickelements Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 All can be up for trade. PM me since this is not the proper place (yeah I know, I started it) to post trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, brickelements said: For the naysayers out there. I will trade some fine 10221 for 76023. I have (6) 10221 with two still in the factory Lego shipping box. If you serious, you should create a new thread here: http://community.brickpicker.com/forum/61-lego-trading-forum/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwray Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 17 hours ago, mfortunek said: ^ You're right, there are two camps: (1) People who think this is going to be a huge hit and (2) people who are going to wish they were in the first camp six months from now. This isn't going to be Orthanc or Red Five or Sea Cow. Once it is gone, it is going to BE gone. It isn't going to become available again every week or so for five months on Amazon (I'm looking at you, 10237). Lego wants this one done. TLG made the decision a month ago never to produce another Tumbler. What exists in the world is all that is out there. No more runs. I'll tangle with anybody on this site who feels like having a go about this one, and here's my opening volley: 1) Shortest shelf life for an exclusive in recent memory. 2) It's an iconic vehicle and not a play set. Vehicle > Building > Play set (with some notable exceptions). If AA is your reason to steer clear of the Tumbler, you're wrong. 3) It's from the best Batman series that will probably ever be made. They're going to keep trying, but Nolan's trilogy will remain the king, at least in my lifetime. See #5 below. 4) Heath Ledger's Joker. 5) Batman is.... well, Batman. Whether he Begins, Returns, is Forever, Rises, or faces off against Superman, he is never going away. Ben Affleck is going to make people long for the Dark Knight Trilogy and the 76023. Get them while you can. If you pass, you'll be sorry you missed this one. Took the words right out of my mouth (fingers?). I'll add... 3) It's not just the best Batman series, it's the best movie from the best series. 4) Ledger's performance as the Joker will likely never be topped—he won an Academy Award, for Pete's sake—and I'd put him up there with Vader and Hannibal as one of the greatest movie villains ever. Ledger's untimely death magnifies his legendary status (James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, and River Phoenix, anyone?) and it means that there is no danger of his Joker being watered down by a lousy sequel. He was one of a kind, the performance was one of a kind, and the minifig will remain one of a kind. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenner Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 18 minutes ago, johnwray said: Took the words right out of my mouth (fingers?). I'll add... 3) It's not just the best Batman series, it's the best movie from the best series. 4) Ledger's performance as the Joker will likely never be topped—he won an Academy Award, for Pete's sake—and I'd put him up there with Vader and Hannibal as one of the greatest movie villains ever. Ledger's untimely death magnifies his legendary status (James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, and River Phoenix, anyone?) and it means that there is no danger of his Joker being watered down by a lousy sequel. He was one of a kind, the performance was one of a kind, and the minifig will remain one of a kind. You nailed it, Ledger's performance is legendary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, brickelements said: Marx I imagine you would. One for one is obviously not a good business decision for me. Current values suggest a ~4.5 tumblers to one SSD. Not sure what it would prove one way or the other then because I wouldn't pay $950+ for an SSD cash now and I certainly wouldn't give $950+ worth of inventory for one. For the record I do like the Tumbler. I don't think it is going to be a massive flop like most Batman. I just don't think it is going to be a huge massive hit like some. There is middle room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete411 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, johnwray said: Took the words right out of my mouth (fingers?). I'll add... 3) It's not just the best Batman series, it's the best movie from the best series. 4) Ledger's performance as the Joker will likely never be topped—he won an Academy Award, for Pete's sake—and I'd put him up there with Vader and Hannibal as one of the greatest movie villains ever. Ledger's untimely death magnifies his legendary status (James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, and River Phoenix, anyone?) and it means that there is no danger of his Joker being watered down by a lousy sequel. He was one of a kind, the performance was one of a kind, and the minifig will remain one of a kind. If you're so enamored of the exclusive Joker minifigure, stock up on ebay. There are plenty of them for $23. This should not be considered a selling point of a $200 set. Anyways, since Warner decided not to go with this version of Batman's continuity, the interest in these movies and the Tumbler in general will fade. It's no R5 or Death Star. The classic version of the Batmobile is the only one that is timeless. There will be many more. Edited January 5, 2016 by pete411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherJB Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 36 minutes ago, johnwray said: Took the words right out of my mouth (fingers?). I'll add... 3) It's not just the best Batman series, it's the best movie from the best series. 4) Ledger's performance as the Joker will likely never be topped—he won an Academy Award, for Pete's sake—and I'd put him up there with Vader and Hannibal as one of the greatest movie villains ever. Ledger's untimely death magnifies his legendary status (James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, and River Phoenix, anyone?) and it means that there is no danger of his Joker being watered down by a lousy sequel. He was one of a kind, the performance was one of a kind, and the minifig will remain one of a kind. I watched the movie more than ten times and never got bored. If Heath Ledger was still alive, I'd say that Joker in this set wouldn't be worth as much. Batman itself has been around since the 1930s, Star Wars since the 1970s. I put my money on any Batman collectible before putting them down on any Star Wars collectible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickelements Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 21 minutes ago, MarxMarvelous said: Not sure what it would prove one way or the other then because I wouldn't pay $950+ for an SSD cash now and I certainly wouldn't give $950+ worth of inventory for one. For the record I do like the Tumbler. I don't think it is going to be a massive flop like most Batman. I just don't think it is going to be a huge massive hit like some. There is middle room. Fair enough on what you would pay...Even on the Bay the prices have breached 1K for the 10221 so I feel my perceived value is close. Thank you for your own assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zskid00 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, pete411 said: The classic version of the Batmobile is the only one that is timeless. There will be many more. Which version is the classic? In comics history there have been many Batmobiles and there will continue to be new additions in the movies. I don't think this takes anything away from the previous versions, especially when it comes to merchandising. Just look at all of the Batmobiles Hot Wheels has made in different scales including Batman '66, 1989, Returns, Forever, Batman & Robin, Dark Knight, Arkham video games, etc. Mattel recently made the Arkham Knight version in 4" figure scale and Hot Toys made the Tumbler and 1989 version in 12" scale. I think the Tumbler will be remembered for a long time because it is unique and part of a great movie trilogy in the history of the franchise. Batman has been around a long time and will continue to be at the forefront of super heroes in popular culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanfan34 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, pete411 said: If you're so enamored of the exclusive Joker minifigure, stock up on ebay. There are plenty of them for $23. This should not be considered a selling point of a $200 set. It is a selling point if you want to make sure you're not getting a counterfeit one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcatsfan Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Is it odd that the Tumbler doesn't tumble at all, but the bike inside it does? - Deep thoughts. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherJB Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, nolanfan34 said: It is a selling point if you want to make sure you're not getting a counterfeit one. That's right. The Joker IS one of the selling points, however, those wheels, unique pieces, and the design are the other hot stuff in this set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedsausage Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Is anyone else having a hard time checking out tumblers at Walmart.ca? or did I miss the "POOF" post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherJB Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I find that one can gauge interest based on number of pages in a thread. Compare this to other exclusives, this by far has generated more responses than any other pages. You need to factor in time. This was out for only a year or so. More responses than ToO, EEE, TH, SSD, DS, GE, FB, etc....... Either there are lots of batman fans posting here to jack up page count, or this is the real deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ChristopherJB said: I find that one can gauge interest based on number of pages in a thread. Compare this to other exclusives, this by far has generated more responses than any other pages. You need to factor in time. This was out for only a year or so. More responses than ToO, EEE, TH, SSD, DS, GE, FB, etc....... Either there are lots of batman fans posting here to jack up page count, or this is the real deal. 14 pages of pre release hype and another boatload since the retiring soon tag was put on. TLG can give its marketing dept.the afternoon off. When there are more pages of ebay sold items than the above sets, it´ll be the real deal. Edited January 5, 2016 by valenciaeric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 On 8/8/2015 at 4:52 PM, Wildemar said: I have no clue about its retirement. But finding out if it's selling well is not rocket science (any more). These sales numbers (of a Batman set in EU) with a limit of one compared to other 100+ $/€ sets - what further evidence does anyone need? This graph makes interesting reading 6 months down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherJB Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 39 minutes ago, speedsausage said: Is anyone else having a hard time checking out tumblers at Walmart.ca? or did I miss the "POOF" post? Still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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