76023 - The Tumbler

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24 minutes ago, BarryZola said:

Let me begin the daily Smyths-O-Rama.

Website dates for home delivery availability etc now changed to 4th-9th Feb. Will this die please.

Why? 
This set is a min 2 year hold.  Another couple of weeks of limited availability is meaningless. 
 

[guiriman]

7 minutes ago, feed said:

Why? 
This set is a min 2 year hold.  Another couple of weeks of limited availability is meaningless. 
 

Newbie question perhaps: When you say min. 2 year hold what target return are you looking at in that time period? MSRP + 100%?

[BarryZola]

13 minutes ago, feed said:

Why? 
This set is a min 2 year hold.  Another couple of weeks of limited availability is meaningless. 
 

Yes, but what happens when it get to those dates, do they then say there's more available 2 weeks after that? I'll just be happy when I know that there aren't any more lying around anywhere to slightly fill the attics of more people. But yes, if Smyths just sell another 200 next week and never again, everyone's happy.

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22 minutes ago, guiriman said:

Newbie question perhaps: When you say min. 2 year hold what target return are you looking at in that time period? MSRP + 100%?

Not sure what you mean by return when you start retail + 100%, I assume you mean sale prices.  But overall I have no real idea what it’ll be in 2 years, but this is a long term hold set, just because of where we are with the set, availability and popularity.  

I’ll check the prices in around a year to see what it’s doing, if/when I can pull double after costs (but before tax) I may start to unload.  If it hasn’t moved much after 18 months, I may just let them go and move on.  Others will, no doubt have a different strategy.  

I only have 3, so it’s no big deal for me, as I’m not all that bullish on Batman sets in the UK market overall, but this is absolutely the worse time to sell this set.  

But if you’ve decided you want them in your portfolio, then you need to at least know why you have them.  
 

[guiriman]

Yep, similar strategy to me, I also have three. Only difference if I can sell the three and make £40 on each quickly now while I can still replace them I'll do that first, Tumbler hibernation starts this weekend either way and will check in a year.

[tractorboy]

11 hours ago, Val-E said:

It actually reminds me more of R2 in Europe -  slow start with lots of listings but after 8 months it started to pick up. When the QFLL auctioneers are out of stuck we can reevaluate.

I think the reason we see so many listings on ebay right now is because Lego rushed its retirement for whatever reason (probably license/new movie related) and there were many left in the wild. The wild stock just hasn't had a chance to dry up yet. This seems to be especially true for UK/Ireland where Smyths seems to have been very well stocked. People are still finding them in Smyths and buying+flipping for a quick 50 quid profit. Almost 60 of the 81 listings on ebay EU right now are in UK/Ireland. It's been coming in and out of stock at Smyths.ie for the past few weeks with a limit 1 purchase. I think if that limit was higher, this would be gone by now.

[jaisonline]

18 minutes ago, tractorboy said:

I think the reason we see so many listings on ebay right now is because Lego rushed its retirement for whatever reason (probably license/new movie related) and there were many left in the wild. 

...or maybe some folks have their credit cards bill due or space constraints and reality set in. 

[tractorboy]

14 minutes ago, jaisonline said:

...or maybe some folks have their credit cards bill due or space constraints and reality set in. 

Yep, very true. I would happily be buying more, but I just don't have the capitol right now and I've already got more than I had planned to. Only difference with me is that I'm holding all mine and not flipping and replacing that stock as many seem to be doing. I think when it does finally go OOS in the UK, we'll see a lost of listings end early.

[Buchimuer]

It's a really cool set. Pretty solid piece, who don't want to own one? Not to mention there are mention the population of Batman fans. So I don't see any risk for having one or two extra one.

[Ma-gic]

No longer shown up at SAH EU.

[jackanape]

1 hour ago, tractorboy said:

I think the reason we see so many listings on ebay right now is because Lego rushed its retirement for whatever reason (probably license/new movie related) and there were many left in the wild. The wild stock just hasn't had a chance to dry up yet. This seems to be especially true for UK/Ireland where Smyths seems to have been very well stocked. People are still finding them in Smyths and buying+flipping for a quick 50 quid profit. Almost 60 of the 81 listings on ebay EU right now are in UK/Ireland. It's been coming in and out of stock at Smyths.ie for the past few weeks with a limit 1 purchase. I think if that limit was higher, this would be gone by now.

It's not really got a limit of 1 per purchase, just one per order. So you can make multiple orders for delivery or Click and Collect (if available) or buy as many as you like in store. I got four of them this week, and that was my target so I'm happy with that. One for me and the rest to hold.

Selling them now is wasteful, as the profit for your time spent is negligible. Plus, when people say they can replace them - that's a risk too, as the more time passes then the fewer of these there are. So don't bank on being able to flip some for minor profit AND still grab more at RRP to hold.

[Jules_K]

41 minutes ago, mattjay said:

No longer shown up at SAH EU.

Interesting, my order from the other day is still showing backordered so the optimist in me says if were going to be cancelled it would have been cancelled by now. The pessimist in me says Lego doesn't really know what it's doing and it's web developer team is terrible so my order will probably still be cancelled. 

[Phil B]

1 hour ago, tractorboy said:

Yep, very true. I would happily be buying more, but I just don't have the capitol right now and I've already got more than I had planned to. Only difference with me is that I'm holding all mine and not flipping and replacing that stock as many seem to be doing. I think when it does finally go OOS in the UK, we'll see a lost of listings end early.

Nobody has the capitol right now, that set only comes out later this year </duck>

[mudcatsfan]

32 minutes ago, Phil B said:

Nobody has the capitol right now, that set only comes out later this year </duck>

That joke was Terrible.

Terrible.

But you got a like out of it for me, cause i kinda laughed.

I'm ashamed.

Time to get more coffee

Edited January 29, 2016 by mudcatsfan

[Phil B]

9 minutes ago, mudcatsfan said:

That joke was Terrible.

Terrible.

But you got a like out of it for me, cause i kinda laughed.

I'm ashamed.

Time to get more coffee

It's Friday, have a giggle on me

[Guest]

14 hours ago, Val-E said:

It´s not a dud but it´s no Logging Truck either! It worries me that there are so many listings for a set that people have only been hoarding for 18 months, at the most.

I´d understand the impatience if it were PS, DS or T1 but not in this case.

I used blue font for sarcasm

[Val-E]

I thought red and orange were the only fonts that meant anything these days.

[mudcatsfan]

17 hours ago, alfredheunghk said:

target and walmart will resell those returned boxes?? i don't think so. there are tons of lego being erased everyday.

btw, i have seen the lego tracker detected tumbler is reopened about 9 hours ago outside US. Is this a system error?

Walmart will return anything and put it back on the shelf.

Anything.

Target is a bit more discerning in my opinion, but they sell tons of opened returned stuff too. 

[tractorboy]

6 hours ago, jackanape said:

It's not really got a limit of 1 per purchase, just one per order. So you can make multiple orders for delivery or Click and Collect (if available) or buy as many as you like in store. I got four of them this week, and that was my target so I'm happy with that. One for me and the rest to hold.

Selling them now is wasteful, as the profit for your time spent is negligible. Plus, when people say they can replace them - that's a risk too, as the more time passes then the fewer of these there are. So don't bank on being able to flip some for minor profit AND still grab more at RRP to hold.

Right, I've just been buying one at a time. Any time I check the website and it's in stock it's hard to resist not buying one. I bought another today and it's still in stock online at Smyths.ie. If it was the US and the limit was higher I think we'd see more power sellers just hoover them up in no time. It's like a game of musical chairs flipping at the mo. When it goes OOS for good, I expect to see lots of BIN listings pulled, but some people will get caught out.

[force392]

Dumb question, but do the wheels roll on a Tumbler?

[Yinchuan]

13 minutes ago, force392 said:

Dumb question, but do the wheels roll on a Tumbler?

Brace for impact!

[redghostx]

Dumb question, but do the wheels roll on a Tumbler?

Yes, the wheels roll, but panels tend to fall off if you touch anything on the Tumbler.

[Yinchuan]

16 minutes ago, force392 said:

Dumb question, but do the wheels roll on a Tumbler?

Yes. Try not to display it on a slant or within range of curious children (or cats).

[Jdsomer]

Just finished building one and it's pretty impressive 

[guiriman]

Sold my three last night for £120 profit, picked up another three in Smyths this morning