stephen_rockefeller Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 41 minutes ago, Copterman said: Can someone be banned for bad punctuation, grammar, and communication skills? Absolutely!!! 1 Quote
beatpoppa Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 55 minutes ago, Copterman said: Can someone be banned for bad punctuation, grammar, and communication skills? Or poor punctuation, grammar, and communication skills... Quote
Battrax Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 On 1/22/2016 at 4:42 AM, Val-E said: Unfortunately, this was still not enough to offset the heavy depreciation that Benny´s own personal transportation vehicle suffered over the same period. He shouldn't have flown it out the showroom. Instant depreciation, right there. 2 Quote
ChristopherJB Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Not sure if anyone is aware of the recent Dark Knight III Master Race comic series release. Just take a look at the price of the Jim Lee Variants. The signed 1:5000 copy is going for north of $4000 while book 2 1:500 Jim Lee variant is pushing north of $500. The bids and watchers on ebay is quite healthy in numbers. Why do I bring this up? It goes to show that Batman/Dark Knight demand is high and will forever be high. This applies to the tumbler. You can take a look at Deadpool as another example. When you have key lego sets like the tumbler, you are not just in the realm of lego investors, but also comic investors. I have a friend who is only into comics and ended buying a tumbler. This is his first lego set. Maybe his only and last. Edited January 25, 2016 by ChristopherJB 1 Quote
jaisonline Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 4 hours ago, ChristopherJB said: Not sure if anyone is aware of the recent Dark Knight III Master Race comic series release. Just take a look at the price of the Jim Lee Variants. The signed 1:5000 copy is going for north of $4000 while book 2 1:500 Jim Lee variant is pushing north of $500. The bids and watchers on ebay is quite healthy in numbers. Why do I bring this up? It goes to show that Batman/Dark Knight demand is high and will forever be high. This applies to the tumbler. You can take a look at Deadpool as another example. When you have key lego sets like the tumbler, you are not just in the realm of lego investors, but also comic investors. I have a friend who is only into comics and ended buying a tumbler. This is his first lego set. Maybe his only and last. No is really questioning Batman's popularity. Batman, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc... have had huge global fanbases for many decades and will only get bigger. As you pretty much said the Tumbler is part of the Bat-history. Some fans especially the Nolam ones will always want a Tumbler and if for some reason, the Tumbler resurfaces whether in a comic , show or film, 76023 demand will only get bigger. 1 Quote
Val-E Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 In Europe it is going for around 20 euros less than Red 5 now - the gap is coming down. What isn´t coming down is the number of listings as there are still almost double for 76023 than 10188 or 10240. Quote
justapilgrim Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 It can no longer be purchased under $300 on amazon Quote
jaxman Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) 40 minutes ago, justapilgrim said: It can no longer be purchased under $300 on amazon (Looks at ToO).... Well????? Edited January 25, 2016 by jaxman Quote
mudcatsfan Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 37 minutes ago, justapilgrim said: It can no longer be purchased under $300 on amazon i'm (pleasantly) surprised by this. I did think that the newbs would be undercutting each other and keep this in the 250 range for quite a while, but either they're being very patient or they haven't figured out how to sell on amazon yet Now that i look, there's only 13 active auctions on ebay for this right now (plus 110 buy it nows). That seems very surprising to me. The last few completed solds appear to be in the 273-290 range. Many solidly at 285. Not bad for ebay. And please don't come at me with, BUT THE FEES, THE FEES!!!! I know. The point is that we have to slog through the break-even ground before we can get to the reaping. And we're slogging much faster than i had hoped. Maybe the price will backslide as all the #NouveauBricke (TM, patent pending, hashtag dibs) begin to figure things out, but this is very positive behavior so far. Quote
legogregors Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 These were trickling in and out of stock last week, mostly at US Amazon. Is that consistent with Amazon clearing out stragglers warehouse by warehouse across the country? There has not be much activity since. Quote
Yinchuan Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 29 minutes ago, mudcatsfan said: i'm (pleasantly) surprised by this. I did think that the newbs would be undercutting each other and keep this in the 250 range for quite a while, but either they're being very patient or they haven't figured out how to sell on amazon yet Now that i look, there's only 13 active auctions on ebay for this right now (plus 110 buy it nows). That seems very surprising to me. The last few completed solds appear to be in the 273-290 range. Many solidly at 285. Not bad for ebay. And please don't come at me with, BUT THE FEES, THE FEES!!!! I know. The point is that we have to slog through the break-even ground before we can get to the reaping. And we're slogging much faster than i had hoped. Maybe the price will backslide as all the #NouveauBricke (TM, patent pending, hashtag dibs) begin to figure things out, but this is very positive behavior so far. When I filter for lego 76023 on ebay, I show 201 new set listings...granted some of them are just for minfigures, but you might be over-filtering a little bit to only show 13 listings... Regardless, I have always seen pricing as a team sport. If the team sets the price benchmark high and does not deviate, there is no reason that prices cannot continue to climb at a quick pace. Problem is that human nature is to outprice the competition by a few pennies or dollars, and then the downward slide begins. Ultimately though, we do control prices, at least to some extent. The truth of the matter is though, that even though we all coexist on BP, we are direct competitors. Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 37 minutes ago, mudcatsfan said: I did think that the newbs would be undercutting each other and keep this in the 250 range for quite a while, but either they're being very patient or they haven't figured out how to sell on amazon yet Don't worry, those will be up as soon as they receive their orders from Amazon and/or Target 1 Quote
jaxman Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said: Don't worry, those will be up as soon as they receive their orders from Amazon and/or Target And then head to BP to notify us of their box condition. 2 Quote
zskid00 Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Yinchuan said: Regardless, I have always seen pricing as a team sport. If the team sets the price benchmark high and does not deviate, there is no reason that prices cannot continue to climb at a quick pace. Problem is that human nature is to outprice the competition by a few pennies or dollars, and then the downward slide begins. I really don't understand why people think the secondary market should be manipulated by pricing collusion. Hold your price if you're firm on it, but don't expect everyone else to follow suit. There are many resellers who are buying on credit so the timing of their sales is very important. I don't agree with that strategy, but I also don't think we should all get together and set our prices the same across the board. That's not how the free market is supposed to work. Edited January 25, 2016 by zskid00 3 Quote
mudcatsfan Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Yinchuan said: When I filter for lego 76023 on ebay, I show 201 new set listings...granted some of them are just for minfigures, but you might be over-filtering a little bit to only show 13 listings... Regardless, I have always seen pricing as a team sport. If the team sets the price benchmark high and does not deviate, there is no reason that prices cannot continue to climb at a quick pace. Problem is that human nature is to outprice the competition by a few pennies or dollars, and then the downward slide begins. Ultimately though, we do control prices, at least to some extent. The truth of the matter is though, that even though we all coexist on BP, we are direct competitors. I said 13 auctions, not just listings. Here are the filters i'm using All >Toys & Hobbies > Building Toys > LEGO > Sets Even when i drop those filters i'm only seeing 223 listings and just 14 auctions. Are you seeing more? Quote
redcell Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Yinchuan said: When I filter for lego 76023 on ebay, I show 201 new set listings...granted some of them are just for minfigures, but you might be over-filtering a little bit to only show 13 listings... Regardless, I have always seen pricing as a team sport. If the team sets the price benchmark high and does not deviate, there is no reason that prices cannot continue to climb at a quick pace. Problem is that human nature is to outprice the competition by a few pennies or dollars, and then the downward slide begins. Ultimately though, we do control prices, at least to some extent. The truth of the matter is though, that even though we all coexist on BP, we are direct competitors. We could all make a heckuva lot more money if we approached pricing as a team sport. The biggest problem with that approach, however, is that it is highly highly -- and I do mean highly -- illegal under antitrust laws. 2 Quote
Ed Mack Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Collusion on prices on eBay or Amazon or any other secondary market site is near impossible. Many people sell cheap for various reasons. Many just need the money. Some steal the items so it's easy to sell cheap. You will always have someone sharpening their pencils. 4 Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: Collusion on prices on eBay or Amazon or any other secondary market site is near impossible. Many people sell cheap for various reasons. Many just need the money. Some steal the items so it's easy to sell cheap. You will always have someone sharpening their pencils. Kind of like that 1 scene from PotC movie where every pirate voted for himself. Sellers on Amzn and Ebay are inherently selfish 1 Quote
redcell Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said: Kind of like that 1 scene from PotC movie where every pirate voted for himself. Sellers on Amzn and Ebay are inherently selfish The sellers involved in every price-fixing cartel are inherently selfish, but enter the cartel because they recognize that they can achieve higher profits through collective pricing action than any could achieve on its own. Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, redcell said: The sellers involved in every price-fixing cartel are inherently selfish, but enter the cartel because they recognize that they can achieve higher profits through collective pricing action than any could achieve on its own. Like I said many moons ago, feel free to do whatever you want. I will be more than happy to be the guy selling for $1 below your prices. 2 Quote
redcell Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said: Like I said many moons ago, feel free to do whatever you want. I will be more than happy to be the guy selling for $1 below your prices. Really? Even if it only takes a $0.01 difference to win the buy box? You're leaving money on the table. And besides, given how much money can be made selling Lego in a competitive market, there is no reason to try and fix prices. Quote
Darth_Raichu Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, redcell said: Really? Even if it only takes a $0.01 difference to win the buy box? You're leaving money on the table. And besides, given how much money can be made selling Lego in a competitive market, there is no reason to try and fix prices. 50 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: Collusion on prices on eBay or Amazon or any other secondary market site is near impossible. Many people sell cheap for various reasons. Many just need the money. Some steal the items so it's easy to sell cheap. You will always have someone sharpening their pencils. Yes. Really. Quote
justapilgrim Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I'll sell for $1 less also. Give me feedback, and drives traffic to my other listings that are $5 higher. I often put sets or partial sets for auctions that start at $0.99 with NR. I promise you buyers look at me other listings Quote
ravenb99 Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, justapilgrim said: I'll sell for $1 less also. Give me feedback, and drives traffic to my other listings that are $5 higher. I often put sets or partial sets for auctions that start at $0.99 with NR. I promise you buyers look at me other listings Vin promises too 1 Quote
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