plastic passion Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 true... never buit a set from what i can remember..... i don't if i missed them ( i am 52 ) , we were pretty poor, so i don't know if my parents could not afford them... i really don't remember even being in contact with them until i had my daughter (she is 16 now) and she was 4 or 5 years old and i would be over at someones house for a play date and the legos would be all over the floor... < that was my only contact! lol pp Quote
Ciglione Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, plastic passion said: true... never buit a set from what i can remember..... i don't if i missed them ( i am 52 ) , we were pretty poor, so i don't know if my parents could not afford them... i really don't remember even being in contact with them until i had my daughter (she is 16 now) and she was 4 or 5 years old and i would be over at someones house for a play date and the legos would be all over the floor... < that was my only contact! lol pp Makes one wonder what your nick name is about than. 6 Quote
Val-E Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ciglione said: Makes one wonder what your nick name is about than. Credit cards, maybe..... 3 Quote
plastic passion Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 plastic passion is a song by the cure.... i figured it fit the site well.... music is my #1 hobbie.... pp 2 Quote
Val-E Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 Well, don´t start building at 52, dark ages Afols usuallly start spending about 100 big ones for every year they missed out on their addiction to overcompensate. Quote
dcurve Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Ciglione said: Makes one wonder what your nick name is about than. lol .... Quote
chipbee Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 On 17/01/2016 at 3:25 AM, Rimmit said: While there is an increase in relevance, there is also in an increase in x wing sets and supply. How many times has the x wing been done?? Twice as a UCS and too many times to count as various other size sets. If someone wants a lego x wing the options are numerous. Plus it is an almost guaranteed to be remade in the future. Either as a UCS or as a larger set. Any of which hurts the long term potential of red five. There will always be a new xwing set in the future to lower red fives value. The chance if the tumbler being temade in any format for lego is slim to none. If you want a lego tumbler your options are almost non existent. Thanks for the more accurate figures. I have been adding all The tumblers into my cart that are available from sellers and have just been counting how many disappear per day. Not the most scientific. You may also need to consider the worldwide appeal of tumbler vs red 5. The ratio probably like 10:1 or even worse. Right now there are plenty of tumbler in the hands of speculators, and most of these sets will not be built for a very long time. Red 5 OTOH is probably going to be opened and built at much higher rate. Quote
Jeff Mack Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Back in stock on Amazon: http://amzn.to/23bcc1i Quote
dcurve Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 57 minutes ago, chipbee said: You may also need to consider the worldwide appeal of tumbler vs red 5. The ratio probably like 10:1 or even worse. Right now there are plenty of tumbler in the hands of speculators, and most of these sets will not be built for a very long time. Red 5 OTOH is probably going to be opened and built at much higher rate. I am not convinced. The Red 5 is no doubt a great set. But Batman is right up there with Star Wars. I think the Nolan Series was epic and introduced the Superhero Genre back into main stream audiences. It will have a special place in all their hearts ... there is no doubt that the original Batman with the Dark Knight movies are some of the greatest Batman movies ever. Heath Ledger's Joker was simply amazing and will always be remembered .... 1 Quote
lostontheverglow Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, dcurve said: I am not convinced. The Red 5 is no doubt a great set. But Batman is right up there with Star Wars. I think the Nolan Series was epic and introduced the Superhero Genre back into main stream audiences. It will have a special place in all their hearts ... there is no doubt that the original Batman with the Dark Knight movies are some of the greatest Batman movies ever. Heath Ledger's Joker was simply amazing and will always be remembered .... I think it's more just that fact that if you look at the forums these days, everyone is all about the Tumbler and stocking up. Whenever a batch goes up on Target, it goes away instantly, and those are probably not end users buying them. People are so focused on getting their hands on as many Tumblers as possible to resell. Part of it has to do with the fact that it disappeared a little quicker than expected. So the ratio of hoarders:endusers in my opinion would be higher for the Tumbler as opposed to the Red 5. Not to take away from the Nolan movies in any way Edited January 19, 2016 by lostontheverglow Quote
Rimmit Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, chipbee said: You may also need to consider the worldwide appeal of tumbler vs red 5. The ratio probably like 10:1 or even worse. Right now there are plenty of tumbler in the hands of speculators, and most of these sets will not be built for a very long time. Red 5 OTOH is probably going to be opened and built at much higher rate. The Dark Knight Trilogy is the equivalent of the Indiana Jones Trilogy of Back to the Future of the upcoming generation. It is iconic, and something that reinvigorated super hero movies, along with X-men. I am 34 and my generation and slightly younger probably watched that movie more times than I can count. Yes, Star Wars has a larger appeal, but ten times larger.... I doubt that. Star Wars maybe twice as large to three times as large at best. Red 5 was hoarded quite heavily. Just look at the number available on Amazon and Ebay. Red 5 also had a larger market for hoarding, i.e. Star Wars fans AND Lego Fans. While yes, Comic fans and Lego Fans would hoard The Tumbler, I do not believe it to be quite as high. And while completionists might feel the need to have Red Five and another UCS Xwing, the average person will be content to get whatever larger scale Lego xwing that is available at the time, whereas the Tumbler has minimal iterations. According to Boxofficemojo.com, The Dark Knight (not adjusting for inflation) is the 6th highest domestic movie of all time (Episode VII is number 1), and the 16th Highest Worldwide (Episode VII sits at #3). In terms of popularity, that is nothing to scoff at by any stretch of the imagination. While Star Wars Merchandising assuredly outsells DC and Marvel merchandise, I doubt it is by 10 times. Only time will tell, but I feel that Red Five may top out at around 500-600, where in that same time span, The Tumbler could hit 600-800 and potentially more. Either way, both sets will earn money, just hard to predict which will make the most. Edited January 19, 2016 by Rimmit 2 Quote
Nawoo Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Been selling a few creased box tumblers to my fellow countrymen for abt 340 usd. No ebay fees or shipping to pay for. buy in from Barnes & Noble abt $213 usd Keeping 6 perfect mint box ones for myself. Already resealed them two to a carton box. Those will be kept long term till the cows come home Quote
chipbee Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, dcurve said: I am not convinced. The Red 5 is no doubt a great set. But Batman is right up there with Star Wars. I think the Nolan Series was epic and introduced the Superhero Genre back into main stream audiences. It will have a special place in all their hearts ... there is no doubt that the original Batman with the Dark Knight movies are some of the greatest Batman movies ever. Heath Ledger's Joker was simply amazing and will always be remembered .... Nolan batman is up there with star wars? You are smoking something strong. Iron man was the one that revived the superheroes genre, not batman. We have to work with facts, and box office figure is one of most objective gauge. In terms of scifi themes, it has to be star wars, marvel superheroes, superman and batman a distant third/fourth. And amongst batman fans, there are some who think the tumbler is never as classic as 7784 type of batmobile. I still have my matchbox toy bat mobile from 1980, and it has the cool batwing fin thingy at the back. Edited January 19, 2016 by chipbee Quote
Yinchuan Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 13 minutes ago, chipbee said: Nolan batman is up there with star wars? You are smoking something strong. Iron man was the one that revived the superheroes genre, not batman. We have to work with facts, and box office figure is one of most objective gauge. In terms of scifi themes, it has to be star wars, marvel superheroes, superman and batman a distant third/fourth. And amongst batman fans, there are some who think the tumbler is never as classic as 7784 type of batmobile. I still have my matchbox toy bat mobile from 1980, and it has the cool batwing fin thingy at the back. What is happening here? What it is ain't exactly clear. Quote
Deano86 Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Tumbler back in stock at Smyth's in UK 1 per order/customer 1 Quote
Crustybeaver Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Anyone manage to place any orders? I wonder if they were snapped up by one or two investors or whether their was only a handful because they didn't last long. Quote
Deano86 Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 I have an order acknowledgement but don't have the funds to stockpile loads. Interesting to see how many others got.. might just be returns? or perhaps they are drip releasing them. Quote
Metin Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Bought 3 from smyths. It was back in briefly. Edit: one order cancelled by smyths. Edited January 19, 2016 by Metin 1 Quote
BarryZola Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 I was on my break at work and just quickly checked it on my phone at around 10.30 a.m. Came up with the blue 'add to basket' which was a welcome sight and managed to order 1. Like others have said, it's limited to one set per transaction. It's been back to sold out since shortly after ordering mine. Quote
Crustybeaver Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Interesting to know whether these were returns or a small batch from one of their warehouses. I seem to recall them sticking a pre order message on their site a week or two about additional stock. Either way it seems to be done again. Quote
Alfiepops Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 They are available now at my local Smyths and according to the website are available for delivery from the 26th -29th January. Quote
BarryZola Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, Alfiepops said: They are available now at my local Smyths and according to the website are available for delivery from the 26th -29th January. So, do you live way out in Wales somewhere or Northern Ireland??? I'm willing to drive a reasonable distance, but I ain't going that far from middle England. Quote
exciter1 Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, BarryZola said: So, do you live way out in Wales somewhere or Northern Ireland??? I'm willing to drive a reasonable distance, but I ain't going that far from middle England. So, is this like saying, "I'm not driving to Cleveland for it?" 2 Quote
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