legogregors Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 On January 16, 2016 at 10:07 AM, magicnite said: 22 minutes ago, cladner said: guess they never heard of Warner Brothers store where it is $25 cheaper . http://www.wbshop.com/product/batman+dark+knight+trilogy+the+tumbler+lego+set+batlgset07.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=Search if i were in your position, i would go ahead and drop ship to turn the shipping cost into profit. How does drop shipping help in this situation? Paying $275.95 for the tumbler from WB when after fees you will receive less than $275.95 from PayPal? It seems like you lose $ and have to worry about box condition shipped from WB. Am I missing something? 2 Quote
cladner Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, legogregors said: How does drop shipping help in this situation? Paying $275.95 for the tumbler from WB when after fees you will receive less than $275.95 from PayPal? It seems like you lose $ and have to worry about box condition shipped from WB. Am I missing something? fees? huh? wait - i am missing coffee - you are 100% right. this is a no-brainer as in i have no brain. 1 Quote
tractorboy Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 11 (inc. 3 used) Tumbler auctions to end in the next 24 hours on ebay EU. I get the feeling a lot of new investors have jumped on this set and many are already looking to cash in. The sooner they are flushed out, the sooner we'll see this set make solid gains I think. 1 Quote
Val-E Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Yeah, noticed this set has almost double the listings of the other recently retired exclusives and one auction only got 205 GBP today. Let´s see how the others do. Quote
TigerG Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Did anybody who ordered from Amazon.it last week already had their Tumblers shipped? Quote
tractorboy Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, valenciaeric said: Yeah, noticed this set has almost double the listings of the other recently retired exclusives and one auction only got 205 GBP today. Let´s see how the others do. I think we'll see a few go for €200-220 with that many auctions. I just hope it's end users buying them and not other investors. Quote
Val-E Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Time to do a bit of ebay id bid hstory digging.... Quote
Rimmit Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 I have been watching this very closely, and it seems as though Amazon sells probably 10 a day and eBay around five a day. So what the rate is going if it maintains a price of 300 most reseller stock will be definitely gone within the year. At least the retail sellers that are going to willing to sell for 300 to 320. It will be a slow rise, if more resellers are only going to sell the product for 340 to 350 as then the number people willing to pay will start to drop off. When we will see the price truly skyrocket will be around year two. Compared to red five, this is already doing better. There are 120+ resellers on amazon for red five vs 80 for the tumbler. And the Tumblr is selling for more than revive by 5- 10 bucks on average. red five has been retired longer to, so in theory it should have less sellers and less stock. The tumbler has an abnormally high interest level for the price point of the set. That is why it will do well. I would love to trade one of my tumblers for red five if anyone is interested. Right now it is an even trade, but in the long run the tumbler is likely the better investment. I just don't feel like paying aftermarket prices for red five. Quote
Yinchuan Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 24 minutes ago, Rimmit said: I have been watching this very closely, and it seems as though Amazon sells probably 10 a day and eBay around five a day. So what the rate is going if it maintains a price of 300 most reseller stock will be definitely gone within the year. At least the retail sellers that are going to willing to sell for 300 to 320. It will be a slow rise, if more resellers are only going to sell the product for 340 to 350 as then the number people willing to pay will start to drop off. When we will see the price truly skyrocket will be around year two. Compared to red five, this is already doing better. There are 120+ resellers on amazon for red five vs 80 for the tumbler. And the Tumblr is selling for more than revive by 5- 10 bucks on average. red five has been retired longer to, so in theory it should have less sellers and less stock. The tumbler has an abnormally high interest level for the price point of the set. That is why it will do well. I would love to trade one of my tumblers for red five if anyone is interested. Right now it is an even trade, but in the long run the tumbler is likely the better investment. I just don't feel like paying aftermarket prices for red five. Red Five is just starting to become relevent. Luke reintroduced into the new trilogy, plus Rogue One taking place in the original trilogy era, I think Red Five is far more valuable at this point. Quote
Serejai Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 25 minutes ago, Rimmit said: I have been watching this very closely, and it seems as though Amazon sells probably 10 a day and eBay around five a day. So what the rate is going if it maintains a price of 300 most reseller stock will be definitely gone within the year. At least the retail sellers that are going to willing to sell for 300 to 320. It will be a slow rise, if more resellers are only going to sell the product for 340 to 350 as then the number people willing to pay will start to drop off. When we will see the price truly skyrocket will be around year two. Compared to red five, this is already doing better. There are 120+ resellers on amazon for red five vs 80 for the tumbler. And the Tumblr is selling for more than revive by 5- 10 bucks on average. red five has been retired longer to, so in theory it should have less sellers and less stock. The tumbler has an abnormally high interest level for the price point of the set. That is why it will do well. I would love to trade one of my tumblers for red five if anyone is interested. Right now it is an even trade, but in the long run the tumbler is likely the better investment. I just don't feel like paying aftermarket prices for red five. So, about your Amazon numbers... you're pretty far off. They are currently selling at a rate of 50 per day on Amazon, and the average over the last month is close to 80 per day. The average since the set was released is hovering around 40 per day. That being said... the worst this set has ever done was November of this year, and leading up to Christmas... where it was only moving 5-10 units per day. I think this set will do well, but it's something to consider - when nearly all other toys increased in sales volume during this holiday season, the Tumbler had a dramatic decrease instead. Then, sales spiked to all-time highs right after Christmas. Sales are currently dropping quite rapidly, though. At the current rate they will be back under 20 per day by the end of the month, and likely drop below 10 per day by March. 1 Quote
Rimmit Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Yinchuan said: Red Five is just starting to become relevent. Luke reintroduced into the new trilogy, plus Rogue One taking place in the original trilogy era, I think Red Five is far more valuable at this point. While there is an increase in relevance, there is also in an increase in x wing sets and supply. How many times has the x wing been done?? Twice as a UCS and too many times to count as various other size sets. If someone wants a lego x wing the options are numerous. Plus it is an almost guaranteed to be remade in the future. Either as a UCS or as a larger set. Any of which hurts the long term potential of red five. There will always be a new xwing set in the future to lower red fives value. The chance if the tumbler being temade in any format for lego is slim to none. If you want a lego tumbler your options are almost non existent. 1 hour ago, Serejai said: So, about your Amazon numbers... you're pretty far off. They are currently selling at a rate of 50 per day on Amazon, and the average over the last month is close to 80 per day. The average since the set was released is hovering around 40 per day. That being said... the worst this set has ever done was November of this year, and leading up to Christmas... where it was only moving 5-10 units per day. I think this set will do well, but it's something to consider - when nearly all other toys increased in sales volume during this holiday season, the Tumbler had a dramatic decrease instead. Then, sales spiked to all-time highs right after Christmas. Sales are currently dropping quite rapidly, though. At the current rate they will be back under 20 per day by the end of the month, and likely drop below 10 per day by March. Thanks for the more accurate figures. I have been adding all The tumblers into my cart that are available from sellers and have just been counting how many disappear per day. Not the most scientific. 1 Quote
Yinchuan Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, Rimmit said: While there is an increase in relevance, there is also in an increase in x wing sets and supply. How many times has the x wing been done?? Twice as a UCS and too many times to count as various other size sets. If someone wants a lego x wing the options are numerous. Plus it is an almost guaranteed to be remade in the future. Either as a UCS or as a larger set. Any of which hurts the long term potential of red five. There will always be a new xwing set in the future to lower red fives value. The chance if the tumbler being temade in any format for lego is slim to none. If you want a lego tumbler your options are almost non existent. Thanks for the more accurate figures. I have been adding all The tumblers into my cart that are available from sellers and have just been counting how many disappear per day. Not the most scientific. Wait. Rewind. Weren't you just asking if somebody wanted to trade you a Red Five for a Tumbler? Based on your point of view, why would you want to do so? Quote
Rimmit Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Yinchuan said: Wait. Rewind. Weren't you just asking if somebody wanted to trade you a Red Five for a Tumbler? Based on your point of view, why would you want to do so? Because i want to open it to build. I only in the last two weeks got back into legos after being gone from 2007-2016 and am behind on sets. I was heavy into legovesting from 2004-2007. If I am to buy a red five now it is 280-290. If someone trades it is only cost of shipping. I cannot just sell a tumbler as after fees, shipping, etc.. I only make 12 dollars. While a tumbler would be an even trade at this point in time for a red five based in sales data and would only require shipping. I am not getting one for investment purposes. Hence why I only want one. If I was investing I would buy/trade for many more. Edited January 17, 2016 by Rimmit Quote
stephen_rockefeller Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 "Don't buy one from a BP, buy one from this site, it's cheaper" = lame. Quote
Metin Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 On 16/01/2016 at 3:18 PM, Metin said: I've been watching like a hawk, it kept changing a lot and it did say available at one point. So I ordered one, we'll see what turns up. I'm expecting it's a return. However customer service assured me they would be getting some. This one arrived today minty fresh to my pleasant surprise. 27S5. Guess there could be more in the Smyths supply chain? Quote
bhchilds Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 There are some available from target on Ebay for $199 right now. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=2&toolid=10041&campid=5337057111&customid=setsEBAY-US&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&item=271805118888 Quote
brickinfinite Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 It's also available at Target.com http://www.target.com/p/lego-super-heroes-the-tumbler-76023/-/A-16752456#prodSlot=medium_1_1&term=lego+76023 Quote
jerryherb Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, brickinfinite said: It's also available at Target.com http://www.target.com/p/lego-super-heroes-the-tumbler-76023/-/A-16752456#prodSlot=medium_1_1&term=lego+76023 had some GC left over for target so snagged one more. thanks! 1 Quote
jaisonline Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 Honestly, this stinks for current owners / hoarders. Over 2.5k sold on eBay and God know how many on target.com. Quote
Migration Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, jerryherb said: done are the days of quick gains Cough...Sea Cow...hack cough. Quote
stephen_rockefeller Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, jerryherb said: done are the days of quick gains I feel some haven't received that memo yet. Quote
jerryherb Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Migration said: Cough...Sea Cow...hack cough. how many did you sell at what % gain after fees/shipping? on the other hand i just looked at amazon and it might be the exception to the rule... Edited January 18, 2016 by jerryherb Quote
Jeff Mack Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 Not sure if this was posted but you can buy at Amazon too: http://amzn.to/1NgDJ5P Quote
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