Yinchuan Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, pete411 said: I wish it went the other way around with the US getting a surprise retirement. I was ready for this. Now I have to wait for that girl, her uncle, Big head Joe and your dentist to sell their 30 Tumbblers first. Hey, don't dorget the soccer moms. They have cornered their fair share of the Tumbler market as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
botchy123 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, pete411 said: I wish it went the other way around with the US getting a surprise retirement. Your right, but it evens itself out over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogwai Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, johnwray said: Can we please stop posting box conditions? No one cares, and it's not Tumbler-specific. Every day I see there's a new page in this thread, but when I skim through it, it's just: My box sucks. [Picture] Yep, that box sucks. Mine weren't so bad. [Picture] Walmart shipping sucks. Ugh, all of my boxes suck. [Quote: Ugh all of my boxes suck.] Better than mine—look. [Picture] Target shipping sucks. Does this box suck enough that I should return it? [Picture] [Quote: Does this box suck enough that I should return it?] Nope. [Quote: [Quote: Does this box suck enough that I should return it?] Nope.] Yup. Amazon shipping sucks. Amazon shipping sucks. Mods, please delete double-post. My boxes didn't suck! Yay! Just to counter - your list is exactly why I like BP. When it starts devolves into stock-bot alerts and reselling brags is where I tune out. Edited January 15, 2016 by mogwai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, botchy123 said: It's ok having something marked as retiring soon but if you can only buy a few over that period it is meaningless. Aside from that DS gave a huge sniff this summer, if you go back on the DS thread you might realise that was the case. True and so did Red 5 but the difference is that SW hype has helped shift much more units of both. It´s all about supply AND demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 10 minutes ago, biniou said: Maybe I misunderstand your post, but "retiring soon" means nothing is a low indicator on the LEGO Shop at Home , many sets have the "retiring soon" logo for months, it's a way to help sales for old sets... It´s as big a red flag as you can have. If it doesn´t sell out that means they have either produced a boatload (exo) and want to empty the warehouse or people aren´t buying (brick bounty). People can argue about it as much as they want but of the 3 important sets marked with retiring soon on the same day and with max 1 limit, Tumbler was the last to die. That´s not pure coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
botchy123 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, valenciaeric said: It´s as big a red flag as you can have. If it doesn´t sell out that means they have either produced a boatload (exo) and want to empty the warehouse or people aren´t buying (brick bounty). People can argue about it as much as they want but of the 3 important sets marked with retiring soon on the same day and with max 1 limit, Tumbler was the last to die. That´s not pure coincidence. You know what, instead of being negative about every set people give opinions on . Why dont you put up something yourself? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biniou Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, valenciaeric said: It´s as big a red flag as you can have. If it doesn´t sell out that means they have either produced a boatload (exo) and want to empty the warehouse or people aren´t buying (brick bounty). People can argue about it as much as they want but of the 3 important sets marked with retiring soon on the same day and with max 1 limit, Tumbler was the last to die. That´s not pure coincidence. My fault, I've made a mistake and realize I thought we were talking the "hard to find" logo... I read the LEGO Shop at Home in french so I have mingled these two status... (I don't remember what was written in french, because I didn't care at that time, I was playing darts drinking beer with my friend ciglione) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, biniou said: My fault, I've made a mistake and realize I thought we were talking the "hard to find" logo... I read the LEGO Shop at Home in french so I have mingled these two status... (I don't remember what was written in french, because I didn't care at that time, I was playing darts drinking beer with my friend ciglione) Yeah, it´s his fault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorboy Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, valenciaeric said: It´s as big a red flag as you can have. If it doesn´t sell out that means they have either produced a boatload (exo) and want to empty the warehouse or people aren´t buying (brick bounty). People can argue about it as much as they want but of the 3 important sets marked with retiring soon on the same day and with max 1 limit, Tumbler was the last to die. That´s not pure coincidence. I think you're overstating it. Tumbler was labelled retiring soon over Christmas which is a busy, expensive and distracting time of year for everybody. I think more people missed the boat on Tumbler than you think. It went from available now to retired very quickly compared to many sets from last year. Even TH did a dance that lasted weeks as it came in and out of stock before finally going, and that's a set that many people consider as having gone quickly. I think it's clear Lego just wanted this one gone for whatever reason (Batcave? new movie?). I don't think it was because they were having trouble selling them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciter1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, botchy123 said: You know what, instead of being negative about every set people give opinions on . Why dont you put up something yourself? I am just repeating the same opinion that Ed Mack mentioned earlier in the week and which I stated myself way back in December. This set is no loser or turkey but it´s not going to be the next 10179 either and the hype over this thing since before it was even released is unbelievable. I have one and can still get more but I wonñt because my current portfolio has better sets in it and I don´t want to expand it further. Some of the sets that I have defended as great investments from 2015 are Birds, Villa Savoye, 42025 and Red 5. Please feel free to give disagree with reasons, it´s an open forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mos_Eisley Posted January 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2016 27 minutes ago, Yinchuan said: Hey, don't dorget the soccer moms. They have cornered their fair share of the Tumbler market as well! 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdfan Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Hey, don't dorget the soccer moms. They have cornered their fair share of the Tumbler market as well! Hilarious!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciglione Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) My friend Biniou and I discussed about this this evening while drinking beer and playing darts. We think it will even out. Just like Botchy said. Super Heroes are far more popular in the US than here in Europe. So it was good the yanks had more units to digest. If it would be the other way around us poor europeans would be in the boat once again. Now... in Europe it can grow in value nicely. And to stay on topic: Although I only have two. Fortunately the box condition does not suck. Edited January 15, 2016 by Ciglione 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbg108 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Mos_Eisley said: "orange or red"...LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, tractorboy said: I think you're overstating it. Tumbler was labelled retiring soon over Christmas which is a busy, expensive and distracting time of year for everybody. I think more people missed the boat on Tumbler than you think. It went from available now to retired very quickly compared to many sets from last year. Even TH did a dance that lasted weeks as it came in and out of stock before finally going, and that's a set that many people consider as having gone quickly. I think it's clear Lego just wanted this one gone for whatever reason (Batcave? new movie?). I don't think it was because they were having trouble selling them. They had less trouble selling Red5 and DS, as have Ebayers since then. We don´t know how much stock was remaining of each when the tags were put up but I´d like to think that any reseller worth their salt is paying attention to SAH, especially in Q4 and if they see a retiring soon tag, acted on it. Your average lego shopper who is not so focused probably missed all three and had to go to the secondary market as shops were OOS of all of them pretty fast too - even then, I believe Smyths still got more Tumblers through whereas the other 2 had long since poofed - I may be mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinchuan Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, exciter1 said: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold-Arrow Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 And the box pix got moved because ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciter1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 This might be how Mos feels about the Orange vs. Red discussion. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 1 hour ago, biniou said: I agree, it was all "whaaaat ? the tumbler has retired ? no way !" and lots of guys (builders & investors) checking for tumblers in B&M shops to get one set (or many). Last week-end I saw some panic here and there on the internet. A little sad I would say for the builders but HEY, this set is 18months old, a buyer had 2 Xmas seasons and 1 birthday to have a reason to get one so I'm not so sad... Again, EU investors who purchase their sets at the very last moment have been caught by surprise. I'm sure this set is not as hoarded here as it could be in the USA. if the memory serves me right there was a talk at least 6 months ago of this beast's retirement by the end of 2015. that and the Volvo, still waiting for the latter... evreyone had plenty of time to stock up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 On 20/7/2014 at 0:11 AM, nir4life said: Wow! I'm already wanting this set to retire....... Amazing! Even before 2015..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 On 20/8/2014 at 10:54 PM, stephen_rockefeller said: On 20/8/2014 at 10:41 PM, marcandre said: I'll start loading up in 3 years... This mentality is why some people have to scramble around last minute and some even miss the boat. How do you even know it's gonna be around in 3 years? What the harm in buying a few here and there starting now? The Rock knew the score, once again. Respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciglione Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Luckily Marcandre is living in the US. So he has had enough time and opportunity to scramble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ciglione said: Luckily Marcandre is living in the US. So he has had enough time and opportunity to scramble. ill sell him mine in 2.5 years at a discount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie77 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) as promised before, some of my tumblers from { way before }. not a lofty lot but 4. should have more. will post pictures when i find them... currently organizing after 2015 year run... box condition [ most likely people will call it mint ] but for me its only 8/10 Edited January 16, 2016 by newbie77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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