cladner Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) who knows how much of targets inventory is /was just churn and recycling of damaged sets. i personally returned 8 sets to target that were just unacceptable to me and my future customers. at any given point in time in the future, damaged boxes will sell because they are the cheapest listing. its just that simple. if that's the market you are going after or you are willing to wait that's awesome. if you are trying to maximize the money you get back for a $200 MSRP outlay, you owed it to yourself to get mint boxes. selling mint is going after a totally different market . the people who seek out my "Collector Grade Box" are my stark-raving loyal repeat customers who send me thank you emails. i don't want to let them down. 20% seems about right on this set given how rare a mint box is going to be. Edited January 12, 2016 by cladner 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie77 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: The limit of one from LEGO LEGO Shop at Home helped this set for a long time until it went to all the other retailers. I like the potential of this set, but this last month really enabled people to stockpile the set. I'm going to tell you it went from under stockpiled to much higher on the Brickfolio inventory total in the course of a month. You can assume most that were sold this past week went to resellers. some people including myself had stockpiled this during the first 6 months. LEGO LEGO Shop at Home limit has more or less no impact on my purchase why because i got them from dcentertainment; tru and ebay. most of the set in last 5 months had gone to part-outers looking for bat pod wheels. even then this was warming shelves of target; walmart; amazon. yes, it got picked up in last few days by resellers. now we get to see the number of sellers would be 500 on amazon or 300 or 200 for this set lets just hope for everyone's sake that this would perform well and beyond my expectation. i do have few of these accumulated early on. but based on its performance latter; i did not increase my original number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Ive seen other sets take longer to sell out but agree on the Retiring Soon thing. Simply put, Lego is abusively using the Retiring Soon label and will be sued for it in the future (not by me but by someone). Funko got in hot water over lying about pops that were not retired. Edited January 12, 2016 by sauromosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salimr Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I I made 2 orders to Walmart for this I ordered 1 on January 4 and it came a few days later, then I ordered 5 of these from Walmart on January 5 but my order still shows processing even though it should be here tomorrow. Is this happening to anyone else. I am starting to worry, maybe they are not going to fill my order or something. Let me know what you all think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan 1 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I thought it would go until the end of Jan there's none to be found in my area I'm glad I have 10 wish the vw bus would retire lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labfreak7 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 The limit of one from LEGO LEGO Shop at Home helped this set for a long time until it went to all the other retailers. I like the potential of this set, but this last month really enabled people to stockpile the set. I'm going to tell you it went from under stockpiled to much higher on the Brickfolio inventory total in the course of a month. You can assume most that were sold this past week went to resellers. Too much hype around this set- too much attention: the result is anxious and ambitious investors hoping for a hefty payday. Well that may turn out to be disappointing for some. Very easy to buy- a much different animal to sell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordoflego Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, labfreak7 said: Too much hype around this set- too much attention: the result is anxious and ambitious investors hoping for a hefty payday. Well that may turn out to be disappointing for some. Very easy to buy- a much different animal to sell. Pls b wrong pls b wrong pls b wrong labfreak7, there, I said it 3 times, no way you can be right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickU Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Considering you can sell right now & profit $10, for me it was worth the gamble to see if it will pay off down the road. It's no different investing in this set than any other "Big Set." Some you profit a little, some you profit a lot more. It's still a profit at the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Horde strikes again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waddamon Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Ed Mack said: The limit of one from LEGO LEGO Shop at Home helped this set for a long time until it went to all the other retailers. I like the potential of this set, but this last month really enabled people to stockpile the set. I'm going to tell you it went from under stockpiled to much higher on the Brickfolio inventory total in the course of a month. You can assume most that were sold this past week went to resellers. Yes, I think an oddity of marking it retiring soon in some cases means nothing, others go without it straight to retired. I think the batman name can handle the volume if it is in fact high, given a few years time. The good news is that batman brand name is not going away any time soon. I wonder what the DS totals are. I remember I asked a long time ago and a very small percentage of people had quantity of DS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinchuan Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, waddamon said: Yes, I think an oddity of marking it retiring soon in some cases means nothing, others go without it straight to retired. I think the batman name can handle the volume if it is in fact high, given a few years time. The good news is that batman brand name is not going away any time soon. I wonder what the DS totals are. I remember I asked a long time ago and a very small percentage of people had quantity of DS. Man, you want to talk about a set that a CEO would not want to display in their office, the DS would certain be one of them, in my eyes. Create a better version with a closing shell, then we'll talk! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocaesar Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Yinchuan said: Man, you want to talk about a set that a CEO would not want to display in their office, the DS would certain be one of them, in my eyes. Create a better version with a closing shell, then we'll talk! I read this in Saul Goodman's voice... it's almost that time of year again! I have to agree with some other posters in saying the tumbler would fit into some high-end offices. Take a childhood batman fan + worldwide acclaim for Nolan Trilogy (and Heath Ledger's Joker) + prestige/wealth tied to Bruce Wayne = At least in SOME CEO's office somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth78 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Better investment Tumblers or The Hobbit Lonely Mountain 79018 set? I bought two tumblers, but have the opportunity to return and buy LM instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iahawks550 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, seth78 said: Better investment Tumblers or The Hobbit Lonely Mountain 79018 set? I bought two tumblers, but have the opportunity to return and buy LM instead. Tumblers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 24 minutes ago, seth78 said: Better investment Tumblers or The Hobbit Lonely Mountain 79018 set? I bought two tumblers, but have the opportunity to return and buy LM instead. Here in Europe the Lonely mountain set is retired and highly wanted for a few months now. I managed to find about 7 sets with a discount price of 97 euro and sell them immediately one by one for +-135 euro's. Is it still commonly available over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciglione Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 13 hours ago, Ed Mack said: I love the Tumbler. Always have, but these last few weeks hurt the set more than you know. LEGO played us. They marked it as "Retiring Soon" and sat back and watched the horde do their bidding. There were so many left in stock it took weeks to sell out. I don't recall another major set taking so long to sell out with the horde in full acquire mode. One really has to wonder if this set was such a poor seller that LEGO needed us to clear out inventory by giving the impression of scarcity. This set certainly wasn't scarce with thousands in stock at Target. Who knows what Amazon had. In Europe there seem to have been less stock. Cause it went away faster than the US. Also here it was never obtainable at retailers like Target. Here it is selling for approximately 300 euro now. And rising. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth78 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 55 minutes ago, BP said: Here in Europe the Lonely mountain set is retired and highly wanted for a few months now. I managed to find about 7 sets with a discount price of 97 euro and sell them immediately one by one for +-135 euro's. Is it still commonly available over there? I did spot a few at B and N the other day. Was hesitant to pick them up at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zskid00 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, MarxMarvelous said: Horde strikes again It is what it is. Almost all of us here contribute to it as resellers. Ebay, Amazon, Craigs List, and social media have opened up marketplaces with almost no barriers to entry and as much as we have benefited from that, there is also going to be fierce competition. With so much information at our fingertips and inventory at the click of a button, people are going to give it a go when there is money to be made. Patience and the ability to adapt are key in this market which is very fluid. Edited January 12, 2016 by zskid00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biniou Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 hours ago, seth78 said: Better investment Tumblers or The Hobbit Lonely Mountain 79018 set? I bought two tumblers, but have the opportunity to return and buy LM instead. Can't you get everything ? If not (lack of money), quick flip the tumblers and then buy the 79018... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zskid00 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 hours ago, seth78 said: Better investment Tumblers or The Hobbit Lonely Mountain 79018 set? I bought two tumblers, but have the opportunity to return and buy LM instead. How long do you plan on holding and what is the price on the Lonely Mountain? If you can get it for close to $100 and want a quicker return I would buy Lonely Mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipbee Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 14 hours ago, sauromosis said: Ive seen other sets take longer to sell out but agree on the Retiring Soon thing. Simply put, Lego is abusively using the Retiring Soon label and will be sued for it in the future (not by me but by someone). Funko got in hot water over lying about pops that were not retired. The company decided to stop production and retire the product, but the rate of sales is not that fast. So the solution is to slap a retiring soon label on it. It got the hoarders anxious as this set was released for barely a year, and folks bought in bulk, even amongst folks who did not have original intention of hoarding this set in the first place. Afterall, what can go wrong with an exclusive batmobile that only stayed around for 15 months? The herd mentality kicked in big time. It took a long while to clear out the stock, even with "retiring soon" tag for many weeks, over the Christmas season no less. Set was hardly exclusive, available to buy at Amazon, Walmart, Target etc. for many days even after the "retired" tag is stamped on LEGO Shop at Home. I think this set will see a good initial jump, and 3 things can happen after the initial surge: 1. Really demand dries up so price stagnate for a long time, 2. A new batch of hoarders decided to join in the fun thinking that there is always a greater fool out there, or 3. Really demand for tumbler is so great that this set becomes another folklore just like 10179. My best guess is 1 is most likely outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I agree that Slave 1 could be the next nice display model to retire but if the rumors are true about Helicarrier, I think that could be another. Are there CEO Marvel fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanfjr Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, sauromosis said: I agree that Slave 1 could be the next nice display model to retire but if the rumors are true about Helicarrier, I think that could be another. Are there CEO Marvel fans? Yes I have been debating picking up a Slave I or Sand Crawler for investment purposes. I am more attracted to the Slave I. Besides the price It seems with Star Wars the market is flooded and the ships seem to do better than any land vehicles. Star Wars is hard guessing game. Take Ewok Village for example; going be good or bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 3 minty ones just rolled in...02R5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanfjr Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Perhaps there will be a UCS 60's Bat-Mobile that will replace the tumbler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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