inversion Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 In Europe the prices of First and regular editions had converged to be basically the same. People's first priority seems to be owning the Falcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricki123 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 with the new UCS Falcon rumor i would never pay this price... because it will never ever hold its actually prices with a new ucs falcon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdfan Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 with the new UCS Falcon rumor i would never pay this price... because it will never ever hold its actually prices with a new ucs falcon... IIRC, you thought DS at RRP was too much... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricki123 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, dcdfan said: IIRC, you thought DS at RRP was too much... yepp. and we will see if it rises much higher then the actually +50% (in my opinion 50% is nothing for such a huge and expensive set) before the new ds comes and destroy the old one ok 10188 is not as bad as i thought but not as good, that its special interesting (for me). edit: oh wait... u in the U.S. are a bit behind us. only +30% hmmm... Edited January 14, 2016 by bricki123 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
111ins Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Had to finally let mine go, could not say no to $6900 CDN. Hope there is a new one and can buy that also. I did have a Bricklinked one that my son and I put together before TFA came out, so I have enjoyed the build as well as the proceeds. Edited January 14, 2016 by 111ins 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drow76abs Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Ed Mack said: 10 hours ago, drow76abs said: hi, I recently found this great site for Lego enthusiasts and collectors. My first post and here it goes. I have an opportunity to purchase a UCS Falcon, in original Lego container with COA and numbered to 10,000. It will cost me 5500 and so I was wondering if this price is good or overpriced? Should I buy it and need to sell a couple/few months down the road, will I get my money back via ebay or some other site. I have been looking for one a long time, but most have been out of reach and it's certainly gained a lot of attention in recent months due to the movie and overall Lego news. Your advice/opinion is very much appreciated and I look forward to being a permanent user on this wonderful website. Cheers Is it opened? I believe there were more than 10,000 First Edition Falcons released because I have seen certificates higher than 10,000. $5500.00 seems a bit high. This set has been fluctuating hundreds of dollars over the past year or so. It's hard to tell if it has plateaued or if people are waiting so see if another UCS Falcon is released in the next year or two. It's a possibility that this set could appreciate to even higher levels under the right circumstances. It is also possible it loses a substantial amount if another similar set is released. This particular set has never been opened, still in it's double or triple box original packaging and supposedly 1st Ed 1 - 10,000. Just looking on ebay these things are all pretty much priced well over 6k, not that you would get that much for it, nevertheless intriguing So I'm a bit on the fence here, as much as I would like another one the cost is definitely a factor at the same time it's a lot cheaper than anything I have seen so far. Folks are talking about a new one coming out, but even if one does, does it make the iconic numbered original go down in value. Thank you I appreciate the advice and knowledge you all have given me so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drow76abs Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 10 hours ago, drow76abs said: hi, I recently found this great site for Lego enthusiasts and collectors. My first post and here it goes. I have an opportunity to purchase a UCS Falcon, in original Lego container with COA and numbered to 10,000. It will cost me 5500 and so I was wondering if this price is good or overpriced? Should I buy it and need to sell a couple/few months down the road, will I get my money back via ebay or some other site. I have been looking for one a long time, but most have been out of reach and it's certainly gained a lot of attention in recent months due to the movie and overall Lego news. Your advice/opinion is very much appreciated and I look forward to being a permanent user on this wonderful website. Cheers So I'm a bit on the fence here, as much as I would like another one the cost is definitely a factor at the same time it's a lot cheaper than anything I have seen so far. Folks are talking about a new one coming out, but even if one does, does it make the iconic numbered original go down in value. Thank you I appreciate the advice and knowledge you all have given me so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drow76abs Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 just doing a little more research, one sold for 7600 on Nov 13 ( 281856547700 )and another for 7.1k ( 201459918290 )on Nov 21. Not that I would get that much for it, but maybe a 500 - 1000 dollar profit. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_rockefeller Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 If a new one is released the question isnt if the 10179 will go down in price.....the question will be be how much will it go down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inversion Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, stephen_rockefeller said: If a new one is released the question isnt if the 10179 will go down in price.....the question will be be how much will it go down? If a new one is a 10179 slightly updated you are right. If it is just a UCS Falcon in Sandcrawler design, prices will increase. Edited January 15, 2016 by inversion grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drow76abs Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 On 6/18/2013 at 3:50 PM, Mos_Eisley said: 4:36pm PST June 21, 2013. Well dang, it's indeed a gamble. May just try selling the one I have and if it sells quickly possibly get the other. But touche, touche, greatly appreciate the comments ladies and gents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaisonline Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 For those who haven't seen the designer of our beloved 10179 set, here's Jens Kronvold Frederiksen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdandy5875 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 39 minutes ago, jaisonline said: For those who haven't seen the designer of our beloved 10179 set, here's Jens Kronvold Frederiksen. Nice. Thanks for the vid... He's rocking a $10k Panerai watch, that's nice too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Brick Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 On January 14, 2016 at 6:44 PM, stephen_rockefeller said: If a new one is released the question isnt if the 10179 will go down in price.....the question will be be how much will it go down? I would completely disagree. I have a few unopened first edition 10179 and I actually think a new UCS will bring more attention to the USC millenium Falcon and draw in new people and actually see an increase in the value of these sets. There will always be people who want the original first edition, regardless of price 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_rockefeller Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Dr. Brick said: I would completely disagree. I have a few unopened first edition 10179 and I actually think a new UCS will bring more attention to the USC millenium Falcon and draw in new people and actually see an increase in the value of these sets. There will always be people who want the original first edition, regardless of price You can disagree all you want.........there will Always be MORE people who want/can afford the cheaper remake. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Brick Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, stephen_rockefeller said: You can disagree all you want.........there will Always be MORE people who want/can afford the cheaper remake. And it will always be just exactly that, a remake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogi Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Imo the mf is so unique and rare that it wont affect sealed ones too much. Even a complete remake. That would mostly harm the built ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaisonline Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 8 hours ago, stephen_rockefeller said: 9 hours ago, Dr. Brick said: I would completely disagree. I have a few unopened first edition 10179 and I actually think a new UCS will bring more attention to the USC millenium Falcon and draw in new people and actually see an increase in the value of these sets. There will always be people who want the original first edition, regardless of price While new prices didn't drop for the original 7191 UCS X-Wing , demand decreased drastically after 10240 came. Used 7191 prices did come closer to the 10240's price. Some rare elements are keeping 10179 prices up. If the remake includes some of these elements (e.g. the 2 light gray masts) than obviously 10179's demand will decrease (as will prices for epically used sets). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 I would completely disagree. I have a few unopened first edition 10179 and I actually think a new UCS will bring more attention to the USC millenium Falcon and draw in new people and actually see an increase in the value of these sets. There will always be people who want the original first edition, regardless of price You can disagree all you want.........there will Always be MORE people who want/can afford the cheaper remake. These are not the people dishing out $5000.00 anyway. There is a ceiling for this set and we might have reached it. It's been hovering around the current values for awhile now. Unless they release an inferior UCS set, I really don't see much movement either way. The new movie has not really helped values, so we might have seen its high for awhile. If a new UCS is released that is better than the old version, then values could be hurt, but there will still be your high end collectors that want them all, so values shouldn't drop that much in my opinion. This set in MISB condition is becoming rarer by the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin_Skywalker Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 If a new one is released the question isnt if the 10179 will go down in price.....the question will be be how much will it go down? I would completely disagree. I have a few unopened first edition 10179 and I actually think a new UCS will bring more attention to the USC millenium Falcon and draw in new people and actually see an increase in the value of these sets. There will always be people who want the original first edition, regardless of price Imo the mf is so unique and rare that it wont affect sealed ones too much. Even a complete remake. That would mostly harm the built ones. I agree. 10179 is something that has been already granted the mark of "Lego history" and most iconic set of all time. I don't think prices of MFs will be affected that much in a re-release hypothesis. On top of this, we recently had 7965, 75105...there are so many MFs out there that I hardly think another UCS one will join the family shortly. Also because there are the new DS to be released and probably the UCS Hoth...all this clues lead me thinking that the time for another UCS MF will be long to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_rockefeller Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Basically all you guys are agreeing with me by saying it won't be affected "that much". I didn't say the 10179 will crash and burn. I said it would be adversely affected. No one knows how much. It just seems silly to me that a remake is going to make the 10179 go up in value. I'm not a hater though. Whoever is lucky enough to own one (or more) is a winner in my book! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustybeaver Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 34 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: These are not the people dishing out $5000.00 anyway. There is a ceiling for this set and we might have reached it. It's been hovering around the current values for awhile now. Unless they release an inferior UCS set, I really don't see much movement either way. The new movie has not really helped values, so we might have seen its high for awhile. If a new UCS is released that is better than the old version, then values could be hurt, but there will still be your high end collectors that want them all, so values shouldn't drop that much in my opinion. This set in MISB condition is becoming rarer by the day. I don't think we've seen anywhere near the ceiling for the Falcon. It will go down as one of the most sought after iconic sets of all time. Irrespective of re-releases it will always be the holy grail, the set that the collectors want to own. Go back a year and I can remember plenty of eBay sales for sealed boxes around £1300-£1800, now you'll be hard pushed to find one for less than £3000. When you consider that rare sealed toys from the eighties (G1 Transformers, Star Wars, GI Joe) can fetch in excess of 100 times it's retail price, is it really inconceivable to see 10179 Falcons selling for 20,000+ further down the line? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_rockefeller Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Crustybeaver said: is it really inconceivable to see 10179 Falcons selling for 20,000+ further down the line? EARTH TO CRUSTY..........EARTH TO CRUSTY......COME IN PLEASE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Depends how long the line is. The last ever MISB one in the world could get that or more because at that stage money is really just a number - the person that wants it won´t care about the cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaisonline Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 28 minutes ago, Lego_Yoda said: Yup - thanks (hangs head in shame). Bloomin heck - thanks for those! Honestly think if anyone wanted 75094 as a display model and then saw 10212.... its a case of open the wallet and just keep dumping those bills on the table! Have to say that of all the UCS vs regular play set comparisons there are barring AT-ST this is the biggest no contest. Consider my derailment over. Not really a derailment as newer members might not have an idea about SW scale diff between reg and UCS sets. Here's a MF comparison pic from fbtb.com 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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