STAR WARS VII - "The Force Awakens" - Movie Discussion

[jaisonline]

 

47 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

On December 24, 2015 at 10:42 AM, jbacunn said:

Still two movies to go. I think she will have a character arc just like the others and will be looking for her revenge on Finn.  I hope captain phasma died in the trash compactor as the planet collapsed. Just like the extremely overhyped Boba Fett, she's the most overrated character in the SW universe...  

 

If you listen to the podcast linked above, she is supposed to have a much larger role in ep 8 and is very angry (according to Sam Witwer)

[Bold-Arrow]

14 minutes ago, jaisonline said:

 

If you listen to the podcast linked above, she is supposed to have a much larger role in ep 8 and is very angry (according to Sam Witwer)

i would def expect that. that character was too hyped up to just "poof". they had an interview with her - forgot where- but she is def coming back. now if she would only kill a baby or two, we should be set. 

[California92563]

40 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

I hope captain phasma died in the trash compactor as the planet collapsed. Just like the extremely overhyped Boba Fett, she's the most overrated character in the SW universe...  

That post made me sad for so many reasons  

Edited January 6, 2016 by California92563

[fossilrock]

10 hours ago, California92563 said:

That post made me sad for so many reasons  

Maybe episode 8 will open with Han and Captain Phasma falling down into the planets core while she fights with Han Solo, and then they both perish when they hit the planets core..  Then you see her reincarnated as Phasma the White.

[Seth76]

FWIW: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/10-reasons-star-wars-the-force-awakens-_b_8895598.html

[BrickLegacy]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/09/no-extended-cut-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens-planned

Asked if such a version will be included at the TCA (Television Critics Association) press tour today, J.J. Abrams said, “There will be deleted scenes [on the Blu-ray], but not an extended version.”

[Bold-Arrow]

 

 

 

[Bold-Arrow]

 

 

[BrickLegacy]

I really enjoyed these BA, thanks for sharing.

[thoroakenfelder]

The Empire trailer was a lot better than these 2.

[Bold-Arrow]

I posted the ESB a week or so ago in case you missed it . Found that to be the best remade trailer of the OT . 

[Alpinemaps]

50 minutes ago, Bold-Arrow said:

I posted the ESB a week or so ago in case you missed it . Found that to be the best remade trailer of the OT . 

I agree.  I'm also thinking it's the music itself that's making these great.  I hope someone creative starts cutting other movie trailers with this music.  Especially comedies.

[Bold-Arrow]

Fun read on a certain storm trooper: http://bgr.com/2016/01/08/star-wars-force-awakens-tr-8r-stormtrooper

 

[California92563]

55 minutes ago, Bold-Arrow said:

Fun read on a certain storm trooper: http://bgr.com/2016/01/08/star-wars-force-awakens-tr-8r-stormtrooper

 

[Battrax]

Another good one from War is Boring

Star Wars Mega Weapons Make Awful Bureaucratic Sense: 'Episode VII' continues a wasteful trend

"...It is simply not possible for a major project like that to be delivered on time, even in a galaxy far, far away. I’m happy to report that Star Wars Episode VII continues to demonstrate a nearly pathological commitment to realistically depicting the defense acquisition business..."

[Battrax]

Nice. Also:

https://plus.google.com/102644469181846416579/posts

 

1 hour ago, California92563 said:

 

[Alpinemaps]

Another good one from War is Boring

Star Wars Mega Weapons Make Awful Bureaucratic Sense: 'Episode VII' continues a wasteful trend

"...It is simply not possible for a major project like that to be delivered on time, even in a galaxy far, far away. I’m happy to report that Star Wars Episode VII continues to demonstrate a nearly pathological commitment to realistically depicting the defense acquisition business..."

I work in defense and work with defense contractors. I can confirm this is true.

[cladner]

good or perhaps even great news for Red 5 10240 investors?

http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/11/star-wars-rogue-one-x-wing-plane-photos/

i like how TMZ calls an x-wing a "plane".  duh.

 

Edited January 11, 2016 by cladner

[jaisonline]

For some reason, the link above brought me to a black page.

This one worked for me

http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/11/star-wars-rogue-one-x-wing-plane-photos/

[California92563]

On ‎1‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 8:06 AM, jaisonline said:

For some reason, the link above brought me to a black page.

This one worked for me

http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/11/star-wars-rogue-one-x-wing-plane-photos/

It's gonna be sweet to see an x-wing on a modern day screen! 

[jaisonline]

i signed this petition by Michael French (retroblasting). While the film is great, i also think an extended cut would close up some of the plot holes. 

https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-release-the-extended-cut-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens

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The Walt Disney Company: Release the Extended Cut of Star Wars: The Force Awakens

 

With domestic box office rocketing toward $1 billion in revenues and breaking records left and right, Star Wars: The Force Awakens is an undeniable cinematic powerhouse in the ledgers of Hollywood accountants. Disney has delivered the goods and created one of the most unforgettable film experiences of the decade.

That fanfare is loud and without end, but amid the din of the fans, there’s a general consensus among both the film’s (many) supporters and (apparently few) detractors that too many question marks were left in the resulting cut that were unnecessary and caused confusion.

What we’re referring to aren’t the question marks that drive the story through a trilogy. Rey’s parentage, Luke’s exile, the origins of Snoke – all of these things are cliffhanger question marks that should be part of any multi-part saga.

No, the questions raised have to do with plot holes that scenes were allegedly shot to explain, but were then cut by overly-energized scissors in the editing sessions. Never after a film’s release have there been so many news stories with the headline, “Director explains [blank],” until now. The Force Awakens has resulted in an almost satirical amount of these news stories, reinforcing the concerns of the audience about the number of question marks in the final picture.

Director J.J. Abrams and writer Lawrence Kasdan have admitted in interviews they argued (in a friendly way) over the removal of shot material during the editing process, with Kasdan asserting that the removal of certain lines of dialogue would cause confusion, and The Force Awakens does have a severe lack of needed exposition.

Scenes cut which explain Leia’s role in the formation of the Resistance and the current status of the Republic need to be reinstated to provide crucial context for what has transpired on a galactic scale in the 33 years since the events of Return of the Jedi. Scenes that expand on C-3PO’s role in preparing BB-8 for his mission and trying to wake up R2-D2 would give plot elements in the film the plausibility they very much need.

Scenes of Finn hitching a ride across the desert, Constable Zuvio on Jakku, the additional scenes with the excellent Maz Kanata character returning with the Resistance all serve to bolster the logic of the film’s many movements. The snowspeeder chase, which made its way into licensed products, would put to rest the question of how a wounded Kylo Ren can instantly teleport thousands of yards from the base into the woods in front of the fleeing heroes. And if there is more to Leia’s exchange with Rey, it needs to be there to help us understand why Leia makes specific choices.

Abrams has said in many interviews on the subject that he doesn’t believe in Director’s Cuts, and if Disney is committed to that courtesy and not doing an Extended Cut, then so be it. However, in a number of cases, Extended Cuts have been loved and lauded by the buying public, Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings being the most comparable example. It’s clear from the box office numbers that fans of The Force Awakens wouldn’t be upset with an extended cut to enjoy, and with seamless branching technology, both could be provided on the same disc, not that we wouldn’t double-dip to have both theatrical and extended Blu-Ray editions.

Please consider having discussions with Abrams and Bad Robot on this possibility. While Abrams is devoted to his “mystery box” filmmaking, a wait of 33 years should be rewarded with some context, something to settle the viewer into the new landscape. There’s too much we are forced to take for granted simply because existing scenes were excised.

A Star Wars film that begins with question marks instead of orienting the audience, and ends with a pile of new question marks on top of the initial question marks with little to nothing being answered is unexpected…and unfortunate, but from everything we know, it doesn't have to remain this way.

Thank you for considering this appeal. 

P.S. - If you ever get around to restoring the theatrical cuts of the original Star Wars films, that would be awesome too. 

[California92563]

On ‎1‎/‎14‎/‎2016 at 1:28 PM, jaisonline said:

i signed this petition by Michael French (retroblasting). While the film is great, i also think an extended cut would close up some of the plot holes. 

https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-release-the-extended-cut-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens

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Thanks for posting that! I signed on as well. 

[thoroakenfelder]

8 minutes ago, jaisonline said:

 

P.S. - If you ever get around to restoring the theatrical cuts of the original Star Wars films, that would be awesome too.

The biggest problem with this is that they are highly unlikely to put any money into restoring the films. I had the DVDs with the original version on the bonus disk. It looked terrible on a modern screen. People tend to forget that a part of the  special editions was the restoration and cleaning up of the film.

[cladner]

in any multipart saga, there are going to be questions until the entire thing is finished and viewed as a whole.  at this point less than a month after the film has been released with this being the first of 6 planned motion pictures spanning the time interval in question this just reeks of whiny emo fan-boy .  the liberating part of TFA is it didn't get bogged down in minutiae.  it was thematic.   you're not going to get a whole new generation of fans on board when they fall asleep wasting time talking about what Leia is up to the last 30 years .  we have new characters to find out about now.    i recommend people who are unable to fill in the gaps with their imagination go and read the childrens Level 1 learning to read versions of TFA which are remarkably concise and point out the salient features of the story if you find the whole thing overwhelming. everything you need to know to enjoy the film is there.  my 6 and 7 yo daughters have a great grasp on the main story elements and conflict underpinnings even though they are too little watch the film.

 

Edited January 14, 2016 by cladner

[zskid00]

I really dislike the idea of going through children's books, the novelization, and Aftermath prequel to get answers to some of the questions.  They could have taken more time in the movie to explain the setting better and the state of the universe without getting bogged down in my opinion.  I think cutting scenes has more to do with the financial incentive to keep the film shorter so they can run through more screenings per day.